Re: [DejaVu-fonts] style consistency with U+0454 in sans

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Danilo Šegan wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Hi Stepan, Dreamer guy, :)

On December 19th, Stepan Roh wrote:

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    <pre wrap="">On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Nocturnal Dreamer wrote:

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      <pre wrap="">i noticed that U+0454  seems not to be wholly consistent with
similar shapes such as the cyrillic letter es (U+0441). in addition
the middle bar is a bit too low it should be on the same height as
in U+0435  or U+0437  (it would also be on the same height as the
small letter yu U+044E, so a glyph for U+0465 could be easily made).
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In my version of DejaVu Sans, loaded into FontForge, "є" (U+0454) is
exactly the combination of "е" (U+0435) and "с" (U+0441).  If it
doesn't display that way for you, it might indicate a hinting issue
(are you using freetype autohinter).  And I am talking about
point-for-point correspondence.
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well thats basically what i expected, however even in the recent
snapshot 20051226 the shape of е and є are different. i superimposed
both glyphs in fontforge (see attachment test1.png), you can tell that
the middle bar of є IS too low. test2.png show discrepancies between
the shape of c and с.
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    <pre wrap="">I think that it is the other way around: U+044E should have middle bar
lower - exactly in the middle as is the case for U+0454. Of course I
am only judging from Unicode Charts. But I am pretty sure that U+0454
and U+0441 have different shapes and should not be made look-alike =
U+0441 have middle bar higher than U+0454 where it is in the middle
and it also does not have similarly curved shape.
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Serbian doesn't use the any of these letters except for "з" (U+0437),
"е" and "с". So, "є" (U+0454) in DejaVu IS based on "е" (U+0435) and
"с" (U+0441) instead.  The same is true in eg. Computer Modern Sans
Serif (and Unicode counterparts from Panov).

But you probably confused it a bit, since U+0441 doesn't have any
"middle" bar :)
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well, what i really meant was "middle part" ;) , sry for the confusion.
just look into the third image to see what i wanted to say. i have
marked the position of the middle part of е, з, є and ю.<br>
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@Nocturnal, can you please directly embed characters in question (it
simplifies discussion a lot, and we all use DejaVu for display which
already contains them :).
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no problem, i could do that ;) .<br>
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  <pre wrap="">Cheers,
Danilo</pre>
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greets,<br>
gee fung<br>
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