cssed-devel

[cssed-devel] full package

[<pa...@br...>]

Hi,

This is a request from a newbie to Linux who would like to install cssed 
onto a mandrake 10.0
Whaterver package I choose to download, there is always something 
missing on my machine, wheter its libgtk2.0-dev on a tar package or xpat 
on an RPM package (which I cannot install since its interfere with 
libexpat on my machine)...

Would it be possible to have a 'full' package whith everything needed 
inside? I know it would be much bigger and some librairies might be 
redundant, but at least installation shall be straight on any linux!!!

Thanks,
Patrick from France (sorry for my english)

Re: [cssed-devel] full package

[Alastair P. <ala...@li...>]

On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 23:02 +0200, Patrick Brouill=C3=A9 wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> This is a request from a newbie to Linux who would like to install cssed=20
> onto a mandrake 10.0
> Whaterver package I choose to download, there is always something=20
> missing on my machine, wheter its libgtk2.0-dev on a tar package or xpat=20
> on an RPM package (which I cannot install since its interfere with=20
> libexpat on my machine)...
Hi,=20
What packages are you trying to install? You will have this problem if
you try and install the Redhat/Fedora packages on a mandrake computer as
the main packages (gtk, expat etc) have slightly different names.

You would be better off installing from the source package (.tar.gz)
untill a mandrake package is made

Regards,
Alastair
--=20
Alastair Porter <ala...@li...>

Re: [cssed-devel] full package

[Iago R. <iag...@hi...>]

Hi Patrick,

On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 23:02, Patrick Brouill=C3=A9 wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> This is a request from a newbie to Linux who would like to install cssed=20
> onto a mandrake 10.0
> Whaterver package I choose to download, there is always something=20
> missing on my machine, wheter its libgtk2.0-dev on a tar package

It seems that there's no gtk2-devel package on Mandrake, so it's sure
the libgtk+2.0 package will come with the development environment into.

Could you please try this command (just copy and paste the following
line in a console) ?

pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0

If it have any output different than "gtk+-2.0 is not found" or "command
not found", you've got the gtk development environment installed.

This ugly output will tell you everything is ok:

-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include=20

If it doesn't work you could try to find the pkg-config utility with the
command:

locate pkg-config | grep bin

If it have any output, please post it here.

>  or xpat=20
> on an RPM package (which I cannot install since its interfere with=20
> libexpat on my machine)...

This is the package you needs:
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/10/discovery/packages?p=3DMandrakelinu=
x10.0-Official-Discovery-CD1.i586.iso-Mandrake-RPMS-libexpat0-devel-1.95.6-=
4mdk.i586.rpm.html

It's "libexpat0-devel" not expat-devel - nor xpat - in mandrake.

> Would it be possible to have a 'full' package whith everything needed=20
> inside? I know it would be much bigger and some librairies might be=20
> redundant, but at least installation shall be straight on any linux!!!

Sure, it's something lots of people have think about, and cssed tries to
put most libraries into - as libcroco  - but to include all of gtk,
glib, pango, atk .... will be a really big package, and it's almost sure
all of those libs are right now in your system.

What I can do is to help you with this installation, so feel free to
post here all the problems you're facing and we'll try to guide you to
have cssed installed from source in Mandrake.

> Thanks,

You're welcome

> Patrick from France (sorry for my english)

Don't worry, mine is worst :-)

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Re: [cssed-devel] full package

[Alastair P. <ala...@li...>]

On Wed, 26 May 2004 18:40:13 +0200, Iago Rubio wrote
> It seems that there's no gtk2-devel package on Mandrake, so it's sure
> the libgtk+2.0 package will come with the development environment into.
We got it working, need the development packages for gtk.
Sadly it isn't possible to maintain one package for mandrake and fedora, 
because of this. It would be far easier to just have 2 seperate rpms.

> > Would it be possible to have a 'full' package whith everything needed 
> > inside? I know it would be much bigger and some librairies might be 
> > redundant, but at least installation shall be straight on any linux!!!
> 
> Sure, it's something lots of people have think about, and cssed 
> tries to put most libraries into - as libcroco  - but to include all 
> of gtk, glib, pango, atk .... will be a really big package, and it's 
> almost sure all of those libs are right now in your system.

I think i would have to go against this. If you install a binary package 
instead of source, you won't need the development libraries, and i think 
most things that cssed otherwise uses are very standard. Adding more weight 
to replace a package that is installed 99% of the time seems a bit pointless

Regards,
Alastair

Re: [cssed-devel] full package

[Iago R. <iag...@hi...>]

On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 00:55, Alastair Porter wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 18:40:13 +0200, Iago Rubio wrote
> > It seems that there's no gtk2-devel package on Mandrake, so it's sure
> > the libgtk+2.0 package will come with the development environment into.
> We got it working, need the development packages for gtk.
> Sadly it isn't possible to maintain one package for mandrake and fedora,=20
> because of this. It would be far easier to just have 2 seperate rpms.

Yes, I agree with you.=20

Have you access to a Mandrake machine ?

> > > Would it be possible to have a 'full' package whith everything needed=
=20
> > > inside? I know it would be much bigger and some librairies might be=20
> > > redundant, but at least installation shall be straight on any linux!!=
!
> >=20
> > Sure, it's something lots of people have think about, and cssed=20
> > tries to put most libraries into - as libcroco  - but to include all=20
> > of gtk, glib, pango, atk .... will be a really big package, and it's=20
> > almost sure all of those libs are right now in your system.
>=20
> I think i would have to go against this. If you install a binary package=20
> instead of source, you won't need the development libraries, and i think=20
> most things that cssed otherwise uses are very standard. Adding more weig=
ht=20
> to replace a package that is installed 99% of the time seems a bit pointl=
ess

Agree completly.


cheers.
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Iago Rubio  =20
- Home page    * http://www.iagorubio.com=20
- Last project * http://cssed.sourceforge.net        =20
- GPG Keyserv  * pgp.rediris.es id=3D0x909BD4DD

Re: [cssed-devel] full package

[Alastair P. <ala...@li...>]

On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 10:10 +0200, Iago Rubio wrote:
> > Sadly it isn't possible to maintain one package for mandrake and fedora=
,=20
> > because of this. It would be far easier to just have 2 seperate rpms.
>=20
> Yes, I agree with you.=20
>=20
> Have you access to a Mandrake machine ?
No, Sorry

Alastair
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