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From: David P. <pl...@mi...> - 2007-07-20 14:16:15
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> On 7/20/07, Haran Pilpel <ha...@ma...> wrote: > [sealed rooms in vaults: good or not] >>> The answer could be qualitative: we allow this from dungeon level >>> [whatever] onwards. > >> I think this is the proper answer. In theory, you could be stranded >> in the Swamp (and definitely in the Shoals) already, so making it >> possible in vaults is OK. > > I'd be very unhappy with design decisions that leave my XL 16 > character trapped in a vault just because all my scrolls of teleport > were trashed by a dragon[*] and I hit a bad teleport trap. This is also my POV but I felt there'd be differences here :) > In general, apart from very narrow cases (the Pan demon lord levels), > we don't ever want Quit or Starve to be the character's only choices. > We *always* provide some exit, be it item, or trap (teleport or Zot), > or stair. The exit can be brutal, but there must be an exit. Here we have a problem: my recent box level, for example provides quite a number (eight?) scrolls of teleportation (not to mention a ring of teleport to be found somewhere else). Still, you could be unlucky to the brim and all scrolls lead only into the same area. So the question is: do we guaranteed, 100%-foolproof exiting? Here I am willing to step back. > Incidentally, I think the Shoals dungeon generation needs to be fixed > if the Shoals are still not doable without levitation (they weren't > last time I checked). Mandating levitation is arbitrary, and uncool > for a primary rune branch. Making it dangerous without levitation is > fine, making it impossible without levitation is not. Yes, there's the idea of sandbanks allowing you to reach other islands on foot - a risky venture in any case :) > [*] To cite a recent game on cao: a level 18 character got most of her > scrolls trashed by a dragon, and was then teleported by a monster into > a sealed room in the Vaults. That kind of experience is not fun, and > we want to strain every nerve to make sure it doesn't happen. Yes, as I said. If it's possible, it will happen and then we do not look so good, as a team. David PS: the bottom line is: get I free mandate to add '<' and '>' to the minivaults which do not care about this? |