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[coLinux-users] Colinux on Althlon 64 computers

[John F. <J.P...@as...>]

Does coLinux work on Athlon 64 computers?

Is there a version of 64 bit Linux which can be installed?

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[coLinux-users] Me and the kernel, BOTH in panic!!!

[Marcelo T. <ta...@ho...>]

Well, i have been using linux for a long time. I used to reboot the computer 
to use a linux programm after a while  reboot the computer again to use a 
windows programm and so on.... this is very annoying way of working.

When i heard about coLinux i decided to install it no matter how difficult 
was the process.
So i installed it and managed to edit the XML file to mount the linux 
partitions, then edit fstab in linux and installing the kernel modules.

Anyway i started coLinux and it had a problem with fsck because it said that 
module major-block-3 is missing...... i have no idea what module is 
major-block-3 but anyway, init stopped there and asked for root password for 
manteneance. So i give it to her and i had a linux prompt, also i could 
manage to run programms like ls, cat, vim (in colors!! :) and others.
Then i run fsck by hand... it said something about being dangerous to run 
fsck on mounted partitions, i payed no attention to it because i thougth 
that before writing any change fsck will ask for comfirmation anyway, 
inmmidiately after it, the kernel got crazy showing all kind of errors, i 
couldn´t do "cd" i couldn't do "ls", i couldn't do anything.
I turned off coLinux and i couln't run it again because it failed to mount 
the ext3 partition on "/".

I restarted the computer in linux and it couldn't init because of kernel 
panic mounting ext3.
I guess i´m screwed, and my partition is broken. But i cannot believe fsck 
could do big changes in the partition in less than a second running, it 
probably changed only one bit from one to zero, but not messed the whole 
partition!!!, right?

Anyway, i start asking here because i have no idea where to ask, do you have 
any ideas to fix this problem??

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[coLinux-users] colinux-0.6.1 issues

[Brendan J S. <Bre...@fa...>]

I'm using colinux-0.6.1 with a REAL debian filesystem (i.e. on a 
separate partition).
I am using Cygiwn Xfree to connect to XDMCP running in colinux.  I'm 
running gdm and gnome.
I have XP with bridged networking.
I have set the colinux ram to 128MB (seem to have more trouble when set 
to 256MB for some reason).

I often have applications that die.  Particularly Mozilla, FireFox and 
Gnome Panel objects.

I also notice that there is sometimes a panel icon that has completely 
screwed colours but every other icon and application is perfect.

The browser and mail clients are slowish, but traversing hierarchical 
menus is EXTREMELY slow.

xscreensaver kicks in after a period of inactivity but I can not type in 
a password as it gets a timeout every second :(
I end up logging in as root on the console and doing "killall 
xscreensaver" to get around this.

I think I am have some SSL problems with some applications.  One java 
app will connect to a data service fine without SSL when I know I have 
used SSL in the past with the native linux boot.

I am using Cygwin Xfree but I think I would prefer to use VNC.  The 
reason being that when I suspend my computer and transport it between 
work and home I get different IP addresses (DHCP) for the colinux VM and 
the X session dies.  Unfortunately VNC is giving me keyboard mapping 
problems and I can't type passwords in mozilla dialog boxes.  The 
mapping seems OK in a terminal until I fire up mozilla which then stuffs 
up everything.

Does anyone else have similar experiences, solutions or suggestions to 
solve the above problems???

Regards,
Brendan Simon.

Re: [coLinux-users] Colinux process priority

[<mas...@wp...>]

Eric Wenger wrote:

>Now that I have installed coLinux as a service, it is consuming 100% of my
>processor and other tasks are completely starved.  For example, I type make
>and nothing happens until I stop whatever is running in coLinux.  How can I
>"nice" the colinux thread?
>  
>

I have also coLinux as a service, and it's running fine.
Earlier I had similar effect, it had quite big impact on the 
performance, but only when doing some computations on the coLinux -- 
e.g. compilation.
I have changed in the System preferences that Foreground application 
should receive performance boost instead of the background services.
Try to play around in Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Performance 
Options.

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Re: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro?

[gboutwel <gbo...@pr...>]

As I understand it:



> What is the difference between the two debian installs then?
One is quite

> large.

> Debian-3.0r0.ext3.1gb.bz2



Is an 2.4.x based Debian 3.0 (stable/woody) 'base/minimal' image.



> Debian-20040605.ext3.1610mb.bz2



Is an 2.4.x based Debian (testing/sarge) 'base/minimal' + development
tools (for developing colinux) + some spare 'room' (of course
cause you need it for development) image



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[coLinux-users] Colinux process priority

[Eric W. <eri...@ya...>]

Now that I have installed coLinux as a service, it is consuming 100% of my
processor and other tasks are completely starved.  For example, I type make
and nothing happens until I stop whatever is running in coLinux.  How can I
"nice" the colinux thread?

Re: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro?

[Tim H. <ti...@br...>]

ti...@fu... wrote:
>> Debian-3.0r0.ext3.1gb.bz2
> 
> IIRC, this is stable. Being larger, I assume it has more stuff
> installed. I don't have it at hand right now so I can't tell what's
> installed. However, being stable, it means it has ancient gcc 2.95
> with quite limited c++ template capabilities, so I didn't use it for
> long. 
> 
> Hmm, I guess I could use it too, because I have had a few issues with
> unstable/testing. I'll download it and try to figure out the contents
> for you in an hour or so.

easy way to check what you have installed on debian

dpkg -l

this will show you a list of all packages and versions

> 
> Completely offtopic, if someone knows how to convert .FON fonts so
> that I use them with Cygwin X (tried, failed) or VNC (haven't tried
> yet), please let me know.

RE: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro? and /dev/ptyp0

[<ti...@fu...>]

> What is the difference between the two debian installs then?  One is quite
> large.
> Debian-3.0r0.ext3.1gb.bz2
> Debian-20040605.ext3.1610mb.bz2

I don't have unmodified 20040605 anymore, but now I have 3.0r2. It is the 
version for 2.6 kernels. It does not appear to have any end-user 
applications, it is a simple base system. 

However, it appears that this stable image, too, has ..

crw-r--r--    1 root     root       2.    0 Jun 23 23:33 /dev/ptyp0

..which means mortal users cant use xterm nor rxvt. Where does this bug 
come from?

-- 
timo

RE: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro?

[<ti...@fu...>]

> Debian-3.0r0.ext3.1gb.bz2

IIRC, this is stable. Being larger, I assume it has more stuff installed. 
I don't have it at hand right now so I can't tell what's installed. 
However, being stable, it means it has ancient gcc 2.95 with quite limited 
c++ template capabilities, so I didn't use it for long.

Hmm, I guess I could use it too, because I have had a few issues with 
unstable/testing. I'll download it and try to figure out the contents for 
you in an hour or so.

Completely offtopic, if someone knows how to convert .FON fonts so that I 
use them with Cygwin X (tried, failed) or VNC (haven't tried yet), please 
let me know.

-- 
timo

RE: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro?

[Stratton, D. MSER:E. <Dou...@ge...>]

What is the difference between the two debian installs then?  One is quite
large.
Debian-3.0r0.ext3.1gb.bz2
Debian-20040605.ext3.1610mb.bz2

Thanks

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To: Stratton, Doug MSER:EX
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Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro?



> Can anyone tell me what is installed in the debian disto for colinux? 
> Or how to find out what is there?  I am a linux newbie.  I get to work 
> with it on and off.

If you mean the image files, not much. I think most of them are near 
minimal 'base' systems, ready to start but containing very little 
applications. Usually you start by updating the package system (in debian, 
apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade) and then installing some 
packages that you are interested in (xterm, mozilla-firefox, gcc, ...). 

Notice that (at least the images I've tried) are unstable/testing, meaning 
some packages might be broken at times.

If you are new to linux, or have not used spesific distribution for a 
while, it is really good idea to read their documentation, eg., 
www.debian.org.

-- 
timo

Re: [coLinux-users] What is on the distro?

[<ti...@fu...>]

> Can anyone tell me what is installed in the debian disto for colinux?
> Or how to find out what is there?  I am a linux newbie.  I get to work
> with it on and off.

If you mean the image files, not much. I think most of them are near 
minimal 'base' systems, ready to start but containing very little 
applications. Usually you start by updating the package system (in debian, 
apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade) and then installing some 
packages that you are interested in (xterm, mozilla-firefox, gcc, ...). 

Notice that (at least the images I've tried) are unstable/testing, meaning 
some packages might be broken at times.

If you are new to linux, or have not used spesific distribution for a 
while, it is really good idea to read their documentation, eg., 
www.debian.org.

-- 
timo

[coLinux-users] What is on the distro?

[Stratton, D. MSER:E. <Dou...@ge...>]

Can anyone tell me what is installed in the debian disto for colinux?
Or how to find out what is there?  I am a linux newbie.  I get to work with
it on and off.  

Thanks

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[mailto:col...@li...] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tue, July 27, 2004 3:38 AM
To: col...@li...
Subject: [coLinux-users] Few issues



I tried coLinux-20040710.exe with Debian-20040605-mit.ext3.1610mb.bz2
and had the following issues:

- xterm and rxvt have trouble running for mortal users because
  /dev/ptyp0 and others don't have sufficient permissions, I used
  chmod to fix this but I wonder what is the cause?
- similarly man has problems because /tmp has the same problem
- XCo Linux wiki page note about Bart Kervers Cygwin/X package
  did not work for me. First time I run the X server I got an icon
  to task bar for short period of time, but then it was gone and
  nothing else seemed to happen after that. I had to use the proper
  cygwin installer and install the Cygwin with X, then it worked fine.

Other than these, it works great, and the wiki pages are pretty good.

I wonder if (co)linux can use hyperthreading? Can I run colinux on 
colinux?

-- 
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[coLinux-users] Few issues

[<ti...@fu...>]

I tried coLinux-20040710.exe with Debian-20040605-mit.ext3.1610mb.bz2
and had the following issues:

- xterm and rxvt have trouble running for mortal users because
  /dev/ptyp0 and others don't have sufficient permissions, I used
  chmod to fix this but I wonder what is the cause?
- similarly man has problems because /tmp has the same problem
- XCo Linux wiki page note about Bart Kervers Cygwin/X package
  did not work for me. First time I run the X server I got an icon
  to task bar for short period of time, but then it was gone and
  nothing else seemed to happen after that. I had to use the proper
  cygwin installer and install the Cygwin with X, then it worked fine.

Other than these, it works great, and the wiki pages are pretty good.

I wonder if (co)linux can use hyperthreading? Can I run colinux on 
colinux?

-- 
timo

RE: [coLinux-users] ntfs howto

[peter g. <plu...@p1...>]

writing to ntfs in linux is really something to avoid

anyway working directly with a partition from colinux requires that windows
isn't using that partition at all

if you need to access windows files from colinux smbfs is the way to go at
the moment

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> Subject: [coLinux-users] ntfs howto
>
>
> hi,
> does any one know how to enable ntfs rw. in colinux.
> so that I can access to windows Xp files.
> Or does any one know how to recompile the kernel under
>
> the colinux?
>
> thanks
> jim
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[coLinux-users] Re: Welcome to the "coLinux-users" mailing list

[Bothari <bo...@gm...>]

Greetings,
    I have just installed a new instance on my home computer.  Up
until now I've been using coLinux on my computer at work, so the
network is a little different.  At home I only have 1 IP address so I
want to use NAT not bridged networking.  The problem is that if I ping
I can get the IP address, but no packets get sent.  apt-get never
connects, either.

colinux.xml line
<network index="0" type="tap" />

Tap interface is shared and set to 192.168.0.1

Cooperative Linux Daemon, 0.6.1
Compiled on Sat May 29 16:20:11 2004

daemon: loading configuration from braun1.colinux.xml
daemon: creating monitor
colinux: allocated id 0
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 7
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 2
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 6
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 3
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 0
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 4
colinux: launching net daemons
daemon: launching daemon for conet0
executing: colinux-net-daemon -c 0  -i 0
daemon: launching console
executing: colinux-console-fltk -a 0
Linux version 2.4.26-co-0.6.1 (ka...@ca...) (gcc version 3.3.3 (Debia
n 20040429)) #1 Sat May 29 15:30:37 IDT 2004
64MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 16384
zone(0): 0 pages.
zone(1): 16384 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: root=/dev/cobd0
Initializing CPU#0
Setting proxy interrupt vectors
Detected 1096.316 MHz processor.
conet-daemon: auto selecting TAP
conet-daemon: found TAP device named "TAP"
conet-daemon: opening TAP: "TAP"
conet-daemon: driver version 7.1
conet-daemon: enabling TAP...
pipe client 0/8: Connecting to daemon...
pipe client 0/8: Connection established
daemon: module connected: conet0
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 8
pipe client 0/6: Connecting to daemon...
pipe client 0/6: Connection established
daemon: module connected: console
co_message_switch: setting callback rule for 6
Console: colour CoCON 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1674.44 BogoMIPS
Memory: 62120k/65536k available (1137k kernel code, 0k reserved, 62k data, 52k i
nit, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU:     After generic, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU:             Common caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
devfs: v1.12c (20020818) Richard Gooch (rg...@at...)
devfs: boot_options: 0x0
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
cobd0 size: 1048576 kb
cobd1 size: 131072 kb
cobd: loaded (max 32 devices)
conet: loaded (max 16 devices)
conet0: initialized
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on cobd(117,0), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem).
Freeing unused kernel memory: 52k freed
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on cobd(117,0), internal journal

I got HTTP to work with freeproxy, but I can't ping to
192.168.0.1, either.

Any hints?
Thanks,
Joe

[coLinux-users] random floating point errors

[miguel m. <jj...@gm...>]

hi all,

i'm experiencing random floating point errors (echo $? = 136). i'm
using debian, kernel is 2.4.25-co-0.6.0. with random, i mean sometimes
it works and sometimes it results to an error.

i'm experiencing this on gnucap. i have a program that simulates lots
of circuits continuously, then it halts because gnucap would produce
'NaN.' when i simulate the offending ckt again, i get a number instead
of NaN (if i don't get the floating point exception)

thanks

[coLinux-users] ntfs howto

[Jucheng z. <zh...@ya...>]

hi,
does any one know how to enable ntfs rw. in colinux.
so that I can access to windows Xp files.
Or does any one know how to recompile the kernel under

the colinux?

thanks
jim


		
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RE: [coLinux-users] Re: Shutting down colinux

[David B. <db...@so...>]

I prefer
poweroff


-----Original Message-----
From: col...@li...
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Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:23 PM
To: col...@li...
Subject: [coLinux-users] Re: Shutting down colinux

Brendan J Simon wrote:
> I've just manged to get colinux to boot with my real ext3 partition as 
> the rootfs :)
> 
> On exiting the bash prompt and hitting the window-alt keys I then closed 
> the colinux terminal.  When I booted to linux proper (i.e. via grub) the 
> partitions needed an fsck.
> How do I avoid this???
> Do I have to type "powerdown" as root to unmount the filesystems first?

At the bash prompt type:
shutdown -h now

(-h means halt, -r means reboot; but it doesn't reboot)

Sam



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[coLinux-users] Re: [coLinux-devel] colinux-0.6.2 - kernel 2.6.7 error messages

[Sarah T. <sar...@ya...>]

Thanks Dan.

Sarah

"Dan Aloni" <da...@gm...> wrote in message
news:200...@ca......
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:49:36AM -0400, Sarah Tanembaum wrote:
> > Hi Dan, as I compile the virgin kernel 2.6.7 with your patches, the
> > following errors occurs.
> >
> > For sure that everytime I ran apt-get update, it gives me those errors
on
> > the console but
> > does not crash the system. APT-GET got aborted.
> >
> > Also, if I'm not using it, it gives me the same error in the console as
> > well.
>
> Yes, this is a known bug in that snapshot, got it fixed later.
>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Colinux vncserver grey screen

[<ch...@to...>]

how are you starting vnc?
if you start by the command line vncserver you need a ~/.vnc/xstartup
script to run a window manager the default one that is installed the firs=
t
time you run vncserver uses twm so if twm is not installed then you will
get a grey screen.

if you are using Xvnc with inetd (or xinetd) you need to configure your
display manager to listen for xdmcp requests.( at least from 127.0.0.1) I
can help further with this If you tell me what display manager you are
using. (kdm gdm or xdm)

chris


> Hi
> Could not subscribe to the list so I am sending this hoping someone wil=
l
> read it and reply back to me directly.
>
> I am having a lot of fun with colinux.
>
> Problem is his when I start my vnc viewer in windows I get the grey scr=
een
> the long instructions mention.
> In the instructions it is said that creating a file called host in /etc
> with
> 127.0.0.1 colinux.colinuxdomain colinux in it that should correct.
>
> This is not working for me.  If anyone can help please do thanks.
>
> Doug Stratton
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>

Re: [coLinux-users] how to start vncserver at boot?

[<ch...@to...>]

are you starting vnc from inetd? or manually.
do you mean log in at kdm login screen? then it goes to the desktop?
I can think of 2 different ways that can accomplish what you want.
If you want no login at all then you can set an autologin in the kdm
config files.
can't find the info right now but will send a helpfull link when I find i=
t.
It's kindof burried in the vnc docs I was reading about this a few weeks =
ago.
What version of vnc are you using?
I think realvnc 4.0 also adds the option of logging in the first time and
resuming the session.

chris

> I've got the Debian Woody load to the point that I can start the
> colinux-daemon, login and then start vncserver which, during it's
> startup, starts kde. When I start a vnc viewer from the PC it goes
> directly to the kde desktop of whatever user I logged in as.
>
> What I would like to do is have vncserver (and, thus, kde) start up at
> boot time so I don't have to login at the text prompt. When I start vnc
> viewer I want to see a kde login box. How do I make that happen?
>
> --
> Jerry
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RE: [coLinux-users] Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo

[peter g. <plu...@p1...>]

yeah its because whoever made the debian images didn't put the following
line in /etc/network/interfaces

iface lo inet loopback

you will not be able to use 127.0.0.1/localhost to access stuff locally
without this in place

note: i didn't add this when i prepped the images for 2.6 as i wanted to
keep existing documention as accurate as possible

-----Original Message-----
From: col...@li...
[mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Andrew
Myers
Sent: 23 July 2004 02:23
To: col...@li...
Subject: [coLinux-users] Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo


Hi,

I'm running the Debian 18M distribution but on startup I get the following
message:

Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo

Does anyone know what this means, and if it's likely to cause me trouble?

Thanks,
Andrew.

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[coLinux-users] Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo

[Andrew M. <AM...@ci...>]

Hi,

I'm running the Debian 18M distribution but on startup I get the following
message:

Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo

Does anyone know what this means, and if it's likely to cause me trouble?

Thanks,
Andrew.

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[coLinux-users] Re: [coLinux-devel] colinux-0.6.2 - kernel 2.6.7 error messages

[Dan A. <da...@gm...>]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:49:36AM -0400, Sarah Tanembaum wrote:
> Hi Dan, as I compile the virgin kernel 2.6.7 with your patches, the
> following errors occurs.
> 
> For sure that everytime I ran apt-get update, it gives me those errors on
> the console but
> does not crash the system. APT-GET got aborted.
> 
> Also, if I'm not using it, it gives me the same error in the console as
> well.

Yes, this is a known bug in that snapshot, got it fixed later.

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[coLinux-users] Re: Shutting down colinux

[Sam L. <sa...@li...>]

Brendan J Simon wrote:
> I've just manged to get colinux to boot with my real ext3 partition as 
> the rootfs :)
> 
> On exiting the bash prompt and hitting the window-alt keys I then closed 
> the colinux terminal.  When I booted to linux proper (i.e. via grub) the 
> partitions needed an fsck.
> How do I avoid this???
> Do I have to type "powerdown" as root to unmount the filesystems first?

At the bash prompt type:
shutdown -h now

(-h means halt, -r means reboot; but it doesn't reboot)

Sam