I installed Classic Shell but nothing I tried will get me the Classic Explorer
Toolbar, in either IE 8 or in Windows Explorer. I tried it in the RC version
of Windows 7 x64.
I tried the steps in the Help to use Internet Explorer to enable it. But the
Classic Explorer Bar was not available, even though it is Enabled in "Manage
Add-ons".
I found it in the Registry under HKLM\Software\Microsot\Internet
Explorer\Extensions, and a similar path under Wow6432Node. I tried adding
values like other extensions have, such as Default Visible, HotIcon, Icon, and
Button Text. It still did not work, although I now found a Toolbar button
available for Classic Explorer Bar, under "Customize". Unfortunately, the
button does nothing.
I love the Classic Shell's start menu. How can I enable the Classic Explorer
Bar?
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You are the first to report such a problem. Unfortunately I don't know how
Explorer decides which toolbars are available and which not.
If you open the View\Toolbar menu in Windows Explorer do you see "Classic
Explorer Bar" or only "Lock the Toolbars"?
Also, do you get the rest of the Classic Explorer functionality (like if you
select a folder in the navigation pane and press Alt+Enter do you get the
properties of the folder)?
BTW, in my registry the Explorer\{64964764-1101-4bbd-8891-B56B1A53B9B3}
key only has BandClsid and Clsid. No icons or such because a Windows
Explorer toolbar doesn't need them.
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yallcome, can you answer the same questions as above? Do you have a "Toolbars"
submenu in the "View" menu and what is in it? Do the other features work, like
Alt+Enter or showing the size in the status bar? Also, are you running as
standard user and what are the UAC settings?
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Righto -- Do NOT have a Toolbars submenu under View -- have only all the
different size icon options, list, details, tiles and content options. Yes on
the Alt+Enter on the directory, it works fine. I am running as user with admin
rights. I don't know about UAC settings, as I've not familiarized myself with
them in Win 7 64. Thanks!
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The UAC settings are in the same place. From the Control Panel go to the User
Accounts and it is the last option "Change User Account Control settings". Can
you turn it all the way down, reboot, and see if it works for you?
This is a long shot, but can you also check the group policy (if you don't
have the Home version). Run gpedit.msc, go to User Configuration ->
Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Explorer -> "Allow
only per user or approved shell extensions". What is the state? Enabled,
Disabled, or Not configured.
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I'm sorry, I don't know what else to try. From the 4 machines I have (Vista,
Win7, 32-bit, 64-bit) only one had a problem and it was solved by enabling the
"Classic Explorer Bar" and "ExplorerBHO Class" from Internet Explorer's Tools
-> Manage Add-ons menu. If that doesn't work for you, I'm at a loss.
Maybe you have some other application that conflicts with mine. I don't know
how it can happen but I'm not ruling this out. But the most likely explanation
is that I did something wrong in my code :). That's one of the reasons I made
this open source - so people more experienced than me can look at the code and
tell me how stupid I am and help me fix problems.
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hahaha -- I'm sure it'll work out sooner or later. I like the Classic Shell
for sure. Give it a rest and think. It'll come sooner or later! Thanks so
much!
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Sorry for the delay. I was expecting "Monitor" to work.
In Explorer, I only get "Lock Toolbars". UAC is disabled. And AFAIK that
Policy is Not Configured.
In IE, I see the Classic Explorer Bar as Enabled under Currently loaded add-
ons. Yet it is not available as one of the available Toolbars, either under
the View menu or with right-click.
I just installed it on another machine, with Windows 7 x64 RTM this time. It
is exactly the same. I am going to look at Group Policy some more.
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I don't have the toolbar available in Windows Explorer or IE. In Explorer, I
only see "Lock the toolbars". In IE, only the default four bars plus the
compatibility button available.
In Internet Explorer I have the two add-ons:
Name Classic Explorer Bar
Publisher (Not verified) IvoSoft
Status Enabled
File date Sunday, December 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
Version 0.9.6.0
Name ExplorerBHO Class
Publisher (Not verified) IvoSoft
Status Enabled
File date Sunday, December 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
Version 0.9.6.0
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Right. Everything seems to be in order. The add-ons are properly recognized
and enabled. If Alt+Enter and the status bar feature work for you, that also
means the DLL is loaded properly.
The only problem seems to be that Explorer refuses to show the toolbar. I
can't think of any reason this would happen, but then again I'm no expert.
Sorry.
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But Alt+Enter and the status bar do not work. I assume you mean Alt+Enter in
the left, folder pane of Windows Explorer to bring up the properties page.
The wonderful Classic Start Menu, however, works fine.
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My mistake, it was yallcome that said Alt+Enter works for him. Can you verify
if the DLL is loaded? You can use Process Explorer from sysinternals to see if
ClassicExplorer32.dll or ClassicExplorer64.dll is loaded in the Explorer
process.
Another way to check is if you can't delete the DLL from the Program
Files\ClassicShell folder. You will fail if it is in use. Although there may
be other reasons why you can't delete it - like UAC or something like that.
If we establish that the DLL is not loaded we can narrow down the problem.
BTW, read the rest of this thread. There are some more things you can check,
like UAC or group policies that disable shell extensions.
Also BTW, it is normal that the toolbar doesn't show in IE. This is on
purpose.
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OK, one last thing to try before I'm out of ideas:
Open a command prompt and go to the installation folder (usually C:\Program
Files\ClassicShell). Type these 2 commands "regsvr32 ClassicExplorer32.dll"
and "regsvr32 ClassicExplorer64.dll" (on 32-bit Windows you only need the
first command). Log off, then back on and see if that fixes the problem.
If this doesn't work, then there is something preventing the DLL from loading.
Without access to your system I can't do more to help. If you have Visual
Studio you can compile the sources and try to debug Explorer.exe yourself.
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The Status bar isn't adding up the files when nothing is selected in the
bottom of the window like xp does whe using your Classic Shell addon for
windows 7. It just shows the total number of items and thats it.
Thank you.
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I had already tried registering all the dll's on the first installation. Only
the ClassicExplorer*.dll's registered, as per your instructions. I will also
try it on the second machine.
I (re)registered them on the RTM installation. But it does not seem to have
done anything.
By the way, these "machines" are actually virtual machines, running under
Microsoft Hyper-V, on Windows 2008 Server R2. Is there any chance that this is
the cause of my problems?
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I am running Vista and Win7 inside Virtual PC 2007 with no problem.
Maybe the problem is that you have a server OS. I don't have one to test
myself. I would expect a server OS to have even tighter security and more
things disabled by default.
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Server 2008 R2 is just providing virtualization. The virtual machines them
selves are Windows 7 x64, both RTM and RC. I also just tried it on a Vista x64
virtual machine. Works the same. Still no toolbar available.
I am thinking maybe it is something about Internet Explorer 8.0. It always
seems to try resetting my security to higher levels.
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Classic Explorer works for two of my Windows 7 machines (32-bit). However, I
am having the same problem that I cannot get Classic Explorer bar on Windows
2008 R2.
64-bit issus? or Windows 2008 R2 compatibility issues?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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I am developing this on 64-bit machine. It works for me for 64-bit Vista and
Win7. Must be some server-specific problem. I don't have a server OS to test.
Is there somewhere I can download a 32-bit version of Server 2008 R2 so I can
try it for 30 days in a virtual machine?
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I installed Classic Shell but nothing I tried will get me the Classic Explorer
Toolbar, in either IE 8 or in Windows Explorer. I tried it in the RC version
of Windows 7 x64.
I tried the steps in the Help to use Internet Explorer to enable it. But the
Classic Explorer Bar was not available, even though it is Enabled in "Manage
Add-ons".
I found it in the Registry under HKLM\Software\Microsot\Internet
Explorer\Extensions, and a similar path under Wow6432Node. I tried adding
values like other extensions have, such as Default Visible, HotIcon, Icon, and
Button Text. It still did not work, although I now found a Toolbar button
available for Classic Explorer Bar, under "Customize". Unfortunately, the
button does nothing.
I love the Classic Shell's start menu. How can I enable the Classic Explorer
Bar?
You are the first to report such a problem. Unfortunately I don't know how
Explorer decides which toolbars are available and which not.
If you open the View\Toolbar menu in Windows Explorer do you see "Classic
Explorer Bar" or only "Lock the Toolbars"?
Also, do you get the rest of the Classic Explorer functionality (like if you
select a folder in the navigation pane and press Alt+Enter do you get the
properties of the folder)?
BTW, in my registry the Explorer\{64964764-1101-4bbd-8891-B56B1A53B9B3}
key only has BandClsid and Clsid. No icons or such because a Windows
Explorer toolbar doesn't need them.
Yes, the Classic Shell worked for me as well, but the Explorer tweak does not
show. I'm in Windows 7 64 bit current commercial release.
yallcome, can you answer the same questions as above? Do you have a "Toolbars"
submenu in the "View" menu and what is in it? Do the other features work, like
Alt+Enter or showing the size in the status bar? Also, are you running as
standard user and what are the UAC settings?
Righto -- Do NOT have a Toolbars submenu under View -- have only all the
different size icon options, list, details, tiles and content options. Yes on
the Alt+Enter on the directory, it works fine. I am running as user with admin
rights. I don't know about UAC settings, as I've not familiarized myself with
them in Win 7 64. Thanks!
Just checked UAC -- they are set to default.
The UAC settings are in the same place. From the Control Panel go to the User
Accounts and it is the last option "Change User Account Control settings". Can
you turn it all the way down, reboot, and see if it works for you?
This is a long shot, but can you also check the group policy (if you don't
have the Home version). Run gpedit.msc, go to User Configuration ->
Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Explorer -> "Allow
only per user or approved shell extensions". What is the state? Enabled,
Disabled, or Not configured.
OK, turned UAC down to zero, rebooted. Still no go.
Checked the group policy as indicated. It is "Not configured."
I'm sorry, I don't know what else to try. From the 4 machines I have (Vista,
Win7, 32-bit, 64-bit) only one had a problem and it was solved by enabling the
"Classic Explorer Bar" and "ExplorerBHO Class" from Internet Explorer's Tools
-> Manage Add-ons menu. If that doesn't work for you, I'm at a loss.
Maybe you have some other application that conflicts with mine. I don't know
how it can happen but I'm not ruling this out. But the most likely explanation
is that I did something wrong in my code :). That's one of the reasons I made
this open source - so people more experienced than me can look at the code and
tell me how stupid I am and help me fix problems.
hahaha -- I'm sure it'll work out sooner or later. I like the Classic Shell
for sure. Give it a rest and think. It'll come sooner or later! Thanks so
much!
Sorry for the delay. I was expecting "Monitor" to work.
In Explorer, I only get "Lock Toolbars". UAC is disabled. And AFAIK that
Policy is Not Configured.
In IE, I see the Classic Explorer Bar as Enabled under Currently loaded add-
ons. Yet it is not available as one of the available Toolbars, either under
the View menu or with right-click.
I just installed it on another machine, with Windows 7 x64 RTM this time. It
is exactly the same. I am going to look at Group Policy some more.
I don't have the toolbar available in Windows Explorer or IE. In Explorer, I
only see "Lock the toolbars". In IE, only the default four bars plus the
compatibility button available.
In Internet Explorer I have the two add-ons:
Name Classic Explorer Bar
Publisher (Not verified) IvoSoft
Status Enabled
File date Sunday, December 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
Version 0.9.6.0
Name ExplorerBHO Class
Publisher (Not verified) IvoSoft
Status Enabled
File date Sunday, December 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
Version 0.9.6.0
Right. Everything seems to be in order. The add-ons are properly recognized
and enabled. If Alt+Enter and the status bar feature work for you, that also
means the DLL is loaded properly.
The only problem seems to be that Explorer refuses to show the toolbar. I
can't think of any reason this would happen, but then again I'm no expert.
Sorry.
But Alt+Enter and the status bar do not work. I assume you mean Alt+Enter in
the left, folder pane of Windows Explorer to bring up the properties page.
The wonderful Classic Start Menu, however, works fine.
My mistake, it was yallcome that said Alt+Enter works for him. Can you verify
if the DLL is loaded? You can use Process Explorer from sysinternals to see if
ClassicExplorer32.dll or ClassicExplorer64.dll is loaded in the Explorer
process.
Another way to check is if you can't delete the DLL from the Program
Files\ClassicShell folder. You will fail if it is in use. Although there may
be other reasons why you can't delete it - like UAC or something like that.
If we establish that the DLL is not loaded we can narrow down the problem.
BTW, read the rest of this thread. There are some more things you can check,
like UAC or group policies that disable shell extensions.
Also BTW, it is normal that the toolbar doesn't show in IE. This is on
purpose.
I see ClassicStartMenu.exe and ClassicStartMenuDLL.dll loaded, but nothing
starting with ClassicExplorer.
I did read the whole thread. I have UAC disabled by Group Policy, and no
Policy disabling extensions (that I can see).
OK, one last thing to try before I'm out of ideas:
Open a command prompt and go to the installation folder (usually C:\Program
Files\ClassicShell). Type these 2 commands "regsvr32 ClassicExplorer32.dll"
and "regsvr32 ClassicExplorer64.dll" (on 32-bit Windows you only need the
first command). Log off, then back on and see if that fixes the problem.
If this doesn't work, then there is something preventing the DLL from loading.
Without access to your system I can't do more to help. If you have Visual
Studio you can compile the sources and try to debug Explorer.exe yourself.
The Status bar isn't adding up the files when nothing is selected in the
bottom of the window like xp does whe using your Classic Shell addon for
windows 7. It just shows the total number of items and thats it.
Thank you.
@jeff-h: It is supposed to. Can you try few things for me?
Thanks, Ivo.
I had already tried registering all the dll's on the first installation. Only
the ClassicExplorer*.dll's registered, as per your instructions. I will also
try it on the second machine.
I (re)registered them on the RTM installation. But it does not seem to have
done anything.
By the way, these "machines" are actually virtual machines, running under
Microsoft Hyper-V, on Windows 2008 Server R2. Is there any chance that this is
the cause of my problems?
I am running Vista and Win7 inside Virtual PC 2007 with no problem.
Maybe the problem is that you have a server OS. I don't have one to test
myself. I would expect a server OS to have even tighter security and more
things disabled by default.
Server 2008 R2 is just providing virtualization. The virtual machines them
selves are Windows 7 x64, both RTM and RC. I also just tried it on a Vista x64
virtual machine. Works the same. Still no toolbar available.
I am thinking maybe it is something about Internet Explorer 8.0. It always
seems to try resetting my security to higher levels.
Oh, I see. I'm also using IE8 and have no problems. But my virtual machines
are 32-bit. And I'm using Virtual PC instead of Hyper-V.
I don't know what else to try remotely. My psychic debugging skills only go so
far :)
Hi,
Classic Explorer works for two of my Windows 7 machines (32-bit). However, I
am having the same problem that I cannot get Classic Explorer bar on Windows
2008 R2.
64-bit issus? or Windows 2008 R2 compatibility issues?
Thanks in advance for any help.
I am developing this on 64-bit machine. It works for me for 64-bit Vista and
Win7. Must be some server-specific problem. I don't have a server OS to test.
Is there somewhere I can download a 32-bit version of Server 2008 R2 so I can
try it for 30 days in a virtual machine?