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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] troublesome PHP behavior

[Trevor O. <tr...@gm...>]

It seems like reasonable behavior to me.
An empty string is a valid array value for explode. For example, if you
exploded "||", it should return three empty strings.
And from php.net:
Return Values

If *delimiter* is an empty string (""), *explode()* will return *FALSE*. If
*delimiter* contains a value that is not contained in *string* , then *
explode()* will return an array containing *string* .



2009/2/20 Arlo Leach <ar...@ar...>

> Hi folks,
>
> Consider the following PHP code, which explodes an empty string:
>
>    $string = "";
>    $array = explode("|", $string);
>    print_r($array);
>    print "Length: ".count($array);
>
> I would expect this to output an empty array:
>
>    Array ( ) Length: 0
>
> But it actually outputs:
>
>    Array ( [0] => ) Length: 1
>
> Does anyone else find this odd? It has bitten me a few times lately, when I
> test the existence of data with a count(), or try to process data with a
> FOR
> loop. I end up writing this a lot to get the expected results:
>
>    $array = ($string) ? explode(",", $string) : array() ;
>
> I was considering logging a bug report but wondered what your thoughts
> were.
>
> Cheers,
> -Arlo
>
> _______________________________
>
> Arlo Leach
> 773.769.6106
> http://arlomedia.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] troublesome PHP behavior

[Trevor O. <tr...@gm...>]

I'd probably use preg_match_all, or your method, depending on what sort of
data i was parsing.

Here's some funny behavior I saw yesterday, but is also as intended.

One expects x%10 to always return a number between 0 and 9 inclusive.
However, -16%10 is -6.
The answer makes sense (-16/10 = -1r-6) but I kind of expected it to just
add another 10 onto it, so it became 4.
For my expected behavior, I had to say ((x%y)+y)%y

2009/2/20 Arlo Leach <ar...@ar...>

> > "If delimiter contains a value that is not contained in string , then
> > explode() will return an array containing string"
> >
> > So, since your string doesn't contain a "|" is returns the "array" of an
> > empty string. Make sense?
>
> That does make sense -- so PHP is functioning as documented. But does this
> seem like the right behavior to others? I think it would be the expected
> behavior if $string is not empty, but if $string is empty, I would expect
> $array to be empty, too, regardless of the delimiter.
>
> Or, if this is a hopeless cause, does anyone have a better workaround than
> my little conditional check?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Arlo
>
> _______________________________
>
> Arlo Leach
> 773.769.6106
> http://arlomedia.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] troublesome PHP behavior

[Arlo L. <ar...@ar...>]

> "If delimiter contains a value that is not contained in string , then
> explode() will return an array containing string"
> 
> So, since your string doesn't contain a "|" is returns the "array" of an
> empty string. Make sense?

That does make sense -- so PHP is functioning as documented. But does this
seem like the right behavior to others? I think it would be the expected
behavior if $string is not empty, but if $string is empty, I would expect
$array to be empty, too, regardless of the delimiter.

Or, if this is a hopeless cause, does anyone have a better workaround than
my little conditional check?

Thanks!

-Arlo

_______________________________

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773.769.6106
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] troublesome PHP behavior

[Michael L. <mla...@ca...>]

Arlo,

I've run into that and though it's annoying, I think it's part of the
"desired behavior" for the function.

>From php.net/explode

"If delimiter contains a value that is not contained in string , then
explode() will return an array containing string"

So, since your string doesn't contain a "|" is returns the "array" of an
empty string. Make sense? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlo Leach [mailto:ar...@ar...] 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:00 PM
To: Chicago PHP User Group
Subject: [chiPHPug-discuss] troublesome PHP behavior

Hi folks,

Consider the following PHP code, which explodes an empty string:

    $string = "";
    $array = explode("|", $string);
    print_r($array);
    print "Length: ".count($array);

I would expect this to output an empty array:

    Array ( ) Length: 0

But it actually outputs:

    Array ( [0] => ) Length: 1

Does anyone else find this odd? It has bitten me a few times lately,
when I test the existence of data with a count(), or try to process data
with a FOR loop. I end up writing this a lot to get the expected
results:

    $array = ($string) ? explode(",", $string) : array() ;

I was considering logging a bug report but wondered what your thoughts
were.

Cheers,
-Arlo

_______________________________

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773.769.6106
http://arlomedia.com




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[chiPHPug-discuss] troublesome PHP behavior

[Arlo L. <ar...@ar...>]

Hi folks,

Consider the following PHP code, which explodes an empty string:

    $string = "";
    $array = explode("|", $string);
    print_r($array);
    print "Length: ".count($array);

I would expect this to output an empty array:

    Array ( ) Length: 0

But it actually outputs:

    Array ( [0] => ) Length: 1

Does anyone else find this odd? It has bitten me a few times lately, when I
test the existence of data with a count(), or try to process data with a FOR
loop. I end up writing this a lot to get the expected results:

    $array = ($string) ? explode(",", $string) : array() ;

I was considering logging a bug report but wondered what your thoughts were.

Cheers,
-Arlo

_______________________________

Arlo Leach
773.769.6106
http://arlomedia.com

Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] Meeting WED FEB 18

[Richard L. <ce...@l-...>]

http://chiphpug.php.net/

On Tue, February 17, 2009 2:28 pm, derby wrote:
> Sorry, what is the website address you speak of?
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Richard Lynch <ce...@l-...> wrote:
>
>> Jason is out of town, but I'm actually back in action, so as far as
>> I
>> know, we're meeting WED FEB 18 @ SitterCity offices in the
>> Merchandise
>> Mart.
>>
>> I'm not sure of the Suite number, and the speakers/topics are still
>> slightly sketchy, but the website is up to date for once, and I'll
>> update it as I find out more.
>>
>> Just show up, okay?
>>
>> PS
>> I can't really afford to spring for food this month, as I'm raiding
>> the couch cushions for milk money at this point...  Strictly BYO
>> this
>> time, okay?
>> Thanks for your understanding!
>>
>> --
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>> I just want you to buy an Indie CD for yourself:
>> http://cdbaby.com/search/from/lynch
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Francisco,
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>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>> code:
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[derby <der...@gm...>]

I wasn't trying to put down macs or their users.  I agree having terminal
built-in would be awesome.  cygwin just doesn't do it.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws...@de...>wrote:

> What, you mean just because I own two macbook pros and an iphone means
> I'm a pretentious mac fanboy?
>
> Seriously though, if you use a Mac, and do mainly web development, and
> prefer to have an integrated environment where SFTP, SVN, and quick
> editing converge, Coda is a great choice. Transmit and Versions make
> good companions. If only there was a solid project management tool
> with mobile web and multi-user capabilities as well (don't say
> Basecamp).
>
> On Feb 17, 2009, at 14:38 , derby wrote:
>
> > probably because its mac only, no offense.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws...@de...
> > >wrote:
> >
> >> Seconded
> >>
> >> On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:01 , Jough Dempsey wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.
> >>>
> >>> http://panic.com/coda/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-oneand-which-to-choose/
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
> >>> Francisco, CA
> >>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
> >>> Enterprise
> >>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> >>> participation
> >>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
> >>> code: SFAD
> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
> >>> chi...@li...
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
> >> Francisco,
> >> CA
> >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
> >> Enterprise
> >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> >> participation
> >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
> >> code:
> >> SFAD
> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
> >> chi...@li...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
> >>
> >
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> > Francisco, CA
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> > Enterprise
> > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> > participation
> > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
> > code: SFAD
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
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> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
>
>
>
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> CA
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> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
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> SFAD
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[derby <der...@gm...>]

I love activecollab.  I got my company to purchase the license.


On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Dima Elissa <di...@vi...> wrote:

> Try http://www.activecollab.com.
>
> It has mobile web, multi user capable, and allows you to build API's to
> integrate you apps as you choose.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilfried Schobeiri [mailto:ws...@de...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM
> To: Chicago PHP User Group
> Subject: Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And
> Which
> To Choose"
>
> What, you mean just because I own two macbook pros and an iphone means
> I'm a pretentious mac fanboy?
>
> Seriously though, if you use a Mac, and do mainly web development, and
> prefer to have an integrated environment where SFTP, SVN, and quick
> editing converge, Coda is a great choice. Transmit and Versions make
> good companions. If only there was a solid project management tool
> with mobile web and multi-user capabilities as well (don't say
> Basecamp).
>
> On Feb 17, 2009, at 14:38 , derby wrote:
>
> > probably because its mac only, no offense.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws...@de...
> > >wrote:
> >
> >> Seconded
> >>
> >> On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:01 , Jough Dempsey wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.
> >>>
> >>> http://panic.com/coda/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-one
> and-which-to-choose/<http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-one%0Aand-which-to-choose/>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> >>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
> >>> Francisco, CA
> >>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
> >>> Enterprise
> >>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> >>> participation
> >>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
> >>> code: SFAD
> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
> >>> chi...@li...
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
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> >> Francisco,
> >> CA
> >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
> >> Enterprise
> >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> >> participation
> >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
> >> code:
> >> SFAD
> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
> >> chi...@li...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
> >>
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Francisco, CA
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> > Enterprise
> > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> > participation
> > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
> > code: SFAD
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> > _______________________________________________
> > chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
> > chi...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
>
>
>
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[Dima E. <di...@vi...>]

Try http://www.activecollab.com.

It has mobile web, multi user capable, and allows you to build API's to
integrate you apps as you choose.


-----Original Message-----
From: Wilfried Schobeiri [mailto:ws...@de...] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:55 PM
To: Chicago PHP User Group
Subject: Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which
To Choose"

What, you mean just because I own two macbook pros and an iphone means  
I'm a pretentious mac fanboy?

Seriously though, if you use a Mac, and do mainly web development, and  
prefer to have an integrated environment where SFTP, SVN, and quick  
editing converge, Coda is a great choice. Transmit and Versions make  
good companions. If only there was a solid project management tool  
with mobile web and multi-user capabilities as well (don't say  
Basecamp).

On Feb 17, 2009, at 14:38 , derby wrote:

> probably because its mac only, no offense.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws...@de... 
> >wrote:
>
>> Seconded
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:01 , Jough Dempsey wrote:
>>
>>> Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.
>>>
>>> http://panic.com/coda/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-one
and-which-to-choose/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
>>>>
>>>
>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>>> Francisco, CA
>>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>>> Enterprise
>>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>>> participation
>>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>>> code: SFAD
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
>>> chi...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Francisco,
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>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
>> code:
>> SFAD
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>> _______________________________________________
>> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
>> chi...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[Wilfried S. <ws...@de...>]

What, you mean just because I own two macbook pros and an iphone means  
I'm a pretentious mac fanboy?

Seriously though, if you use a Mac, and do mainly web development, and  
prefer to have an integrated environment where SFTP, SVN, and quick  
editing converge, Coda is a great choice. Transmit and Versions make  
good companions. If only there was a solid project management tool  
with mobile web and multi-user capabilities as well (don't say  
Basecamp).

On Feb 17, 2009, at 14:38 , derby wrote:

> probably because its mac only, no offense.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws...@de... 
> >wrote:
>
>> Seconded
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:01 , Jough Dempsey wrote:
>>
>>> Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.
>>>
>>> http://panic.com/coda/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-oneand-which-to-choose/
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
>>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>>> Francisco, CA
>>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>>> Enterprise
>>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>>> participation
>>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
>>> code: SFAD
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
>>> chi...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
>> Francisco,
>> CA
>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> Enterprise
>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> participation
>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
>> code:
>> SFAD
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
>> _______________________________________________
>> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
>> chi...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss
>>
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> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[derby <der...@gm...>]

probably because its mac only, no offense.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws...@de...>wrote:

> Seconded
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:01 , Jough Dempsey wrote:
>
> > Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.
> >
> > http://panic.com/coda/
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-oneand-which-to-choose/
> >>
> >> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
> >>
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] Meeting WED FEB 18

[derby <der...@gm...>]

Sorry, what is the website address you speak of?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Richard Lynch <ce...@l-...> wrote:

> Jason is out of town, but I'm actually back in action, so as far as I
> know, we're meeting WED FEB 18 @ SitterCity offices in the Merchandise
> Mart.
>
> I'm not sure of the Suite number, and the speakers/topics are still
> slightly sketchy, but the website is up to date for once, and I'll
> update it as I find out more.
>
> Just show up, okay?
>
> PS
> I can't really afford to spring for food this month, as I'm raiding
> the couch cushions for milk money at this point...  Strictly BYO this
> time, okay?
> Thanks for your understanding!
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
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> CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code:
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] chiPHPug-discuss Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6

[Wilfried S. <ws...@de...>]

What time?


On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:56, Jason Rexilius <ja...@ho...> wrote:

> Sittercity is on 22nd floor. And beer and chips will be provided,  
> BTW so
> no worries Rich.
>
> Sorry I cant make it but I'll be in LA for the rest of the week. yuk..
>
> Have fun!
>
>
>
>
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
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> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] chiPHPug-discuss Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6

[Jason R. <ja...@ho...>]

Sittercity is on 22nd floor. And beer and chips will be provided, BTW so 
no worries Rich.

Sorry I cant make it but I'll be in LA for the rest of the week. yuk..

Have fun!

Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] chiPHPug-discuss Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6

[dominic d. <Do...@Cu...>]

SitterCity looks to be on the 22nd floor:
http://www.sittercity.com/blog/childcare/we-moved.html

Dominic 

602 214-8867
Do...@Cu...

Custom Innovation, LLC
333 N. Michigan Ave.
Suite 405
Chicago, IL 

[chiPHPug-discuss] Meeting WED FEB 18

[Richard L. <ce...@l-...>]

Jason is out of town, but I'm actually back in action, so as far as I
know, we're meeting WED FEB 18 @ SitterCity offices in the Merchandise
Mart.

I'm not sure of the Suite number, and the speakers/topics are still
slightly sketchy, but the website is up to date for once, and I'll
update it as I find out more.

Just show up, okay?

PS
I can't really afford to spring for food this month, as I'm raiding
the couch cushions for milk money at this point...  Strictly BYO this
time, okay?
Thanks for your understanding!

-- 
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I just want you to buy an Indie CD for yourself:
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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[Wilfried S. <ws...@de...>]

Seconded

On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:01 , Jough Dempsey wrote:

> Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.
>
> http://panic.com/coda/
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-oneand-which-to-choose/
>>
>> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San  
> Francisco, CA
> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the  
> Enterprise
> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source  
> participation
> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source  
> code: SFAD
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H
> _______________________________________________
> chiPHPug-discuss mailing list
> chi...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/chiphpug-discuss

Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[Jough D. <jou...@gm...>]

Good article, but they left out my current favourite, Coda.

http://panic.com/coda/


On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Neil Rest <Nei...@rc...> wrote:

>
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-oneand-which-to-choose/
>
> I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.
>

[chiPHPug-discuss] "The Big PHP IDE Test: Why Use One And Which To Choose"

[Neil R. <Nei...@rc...>]

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/02/11/the-big-php-ides-test-why-use-oneand-which-to-choose/

I'm not a designer, but I love smashing.

Neil
--
Nei...@rc...

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view of all parts of my mind.

[chiPHPug-discuss] Facebook Dev Garage

[Jason R. <ja...@ho...>]

Forwarding this on. Looks fun but I'll be out of town sadly...

-------- Original Message --------


Interested in Facebook App development?

Next Friday, Feb 20th starting at 7pm will be the next Chicago Facebook
Developer Garage.

Where I've Been & Crafted Fun, two of the leading companies on the
Facebook platform, both based here in Chicago, are organizing the 2009
Facebook Developer Garage.

Come to meet other FB app developers in Chicago, share tips, and get
expert advice from Luke Shepard, a Facebook Platform engineer who will
be giving the keynote presentation.

Full details + RSVP here:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=59423674771

Please forward this on to others that may be interested in Facebook App
Development.

[chiPHPug-discuss] Feb 18 Meeting

[Richard L. <ce...@l-...>]

I've updated the website with the changes to location and added the
speakers / topics I know of for the upcoming meeting.

Also in process to get Jason CVS access to update, as he's been
carrying the ball for me for several months now.

On the plus side, being unemployed, I should be able to do a better
job of updating it myself :-v

If you're hiring Senior PHP staff, I'm interested:
http://l-i-e.com/resume.htm

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[chiPHPug-discuss] PHP Job / Mid-Level / Chicago Loop

[Richard L. <ce...@l-...>]

I was asked to forward this job posting to the list.
It was in Word, and now it's not, so formatting oddities are my fault.
I know nothing more about this - Contact Michele direct for more info.

-------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
Subject: RE: Regional Mail Autoforward
From:    "Lovitt, Michele" <ML...@Vo...>
Date:    Wed, February 4, 2009 4:18 pm
To:      "Richard Lynch" <ce...@l-...>
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Web Developer
BarcodesInc, a fast-growing online retailer of business technology
products, seeks an experienced PHP Web Developer to work in our
downtown Chicago office. At Barcodes, our focus is on providing
superior service to our customers - in person, on the phone and via
our websites. In order to achieve our goals, we search for talented
people who want to work together in a challenging, exciting
environment.
We have a great IT team and are looking to add to it. Our IT team
plays numerous critical roles including building and managing multiple
websites, developing and maintaining company systems that support our
growth and looking for creative ways to use information technology to
improve the way we do business. We also specialize in internet
marketing and search engine optimization. At Barcodes, you'll have an
opportunity to share your ideas and learn from a talented group of IT
professionals.
Responsibilities
Development and Maintenance of E-Commerce Websites
Internet/Search Engine Marketing
Website Analytics/Performance Review
Special Projects
Qualifications
3+ Years of Experience in Web Development
Proficiency with PHP, Perl, MySQL, SSI, Apache and Linux
Advanced Programming/Scripting Skills
E-Commerce Experience Preferred


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Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] Next meeting

[derby <der...@gm...>]

Excellent, if the meeting date is after the 10th.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Jason Rexilius <ja...@ho...> wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
>  Sittercity has volunteered to host the next meeting in their new
> offices at the Merchandise Mart.  This location should be super easy for
> people to get to as the L stop is in the building ;-)
>
>   I'm going to try and get one of the Sittercity crew to give a talk,
> perhaps Stephen as he always works late and is super smart ;-)
>
>   I'm probably going to give a talk.
>
>   Who else?
>
> -jason
>
>
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[chiPHPug-discuss] Next meeting

[Jason R. <ja...@ho...>]

Hey gang,

  Sittercity has volunteered to host the next meeting in their new 
offices at the Merchandise Mart.  This location should be super easy for 
people to get to as the L stop is in the building ;-)

   I'm going to try and get one of the Sittercity crew to give a talk, 
perhaps Stephen as he always works late and is super smart ;-)

   I'm probably going to give a talk.

   Who else?

-jason

[chiPHPug-discuss] [ANNOUNCE] Andromeda Approaches Release 1

[Kenneth D. <ke...@se...>]

Andromeda is a database application framework written in PHP that builds 
and uses PostgreSQL databases.

I am very happy to announce that as of tonight, we have drafted all 
features that compose the original vision of Andromeda.  We are now 
entering into debugging and documentation mode and are proceeding to 
Release 1.

the docs are here: www.andromeda-project.org

and the demo is at www.andromeda-project.org/demo

the source of the demo is available here: 
https://andro.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/andro/apps/finance/application

I sometimes like to call Andromeda the "un-framework" because it has 
little in common with other frameworks out there.  Its primary goal is 
to eliminate as many tasks as possible through radical use of the D-R-Y 
principle at the database level.  In other words, we allow you to 
specify huge amounts of security and application logic within the 
description of the database.  This has ramifications for the entire 
cycle.  Things like ORM and MVC seem way too complicated after you have 
built an app with Andromeda -- a seasoned Andromeda  programmer wants to 
spec out the database and get straight to the presentation of custom 
pages, confidently knowing that the biz logic is all taken care of.

If you want to find out more, look at the source directory listed above, 
you will see that there are only two files.  The magic is in the 
'finance.dd.yaml' file, the entire demo as you see it is generated out 
of that file.

However, no automated system is ever going to handle every case, so 
Andromeda lets you freely and easily "escape the cage" at many levels.  
If you have to 'drink the coolaid' to use Andromeda, we would prefer it 
be only a teaspoon, not a jug.

-- 
Kenneth Downs
Secure Data Software, Inc.
www.secdat.com    www.andromeda-project.org
631-689-7200   Fax: 631-689-0527
cell: 631-379-0010