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Hi,

It is rather cumbersome to download the large database from sourceforge.
And the sites connected to the beta program download seems to be slow or
down. Isn't there a tarball around? I would be willing to provide such a
tarball via a fast website.

(btw: is there a stable/new chessdb version planned sometime?)

Regards,
Henk.

The content of the TWIC file is changed =E2=80=93 the zip file is now =
inside the folder, so the program cannot find the pgn file.

Anyone knows how to fix it?=20

I have sucessfully compiled ChessDB 3.6.19 beta 1 on Mac OS X 10.5.1.  
No need to install Tcl/Tk, it is included in the X Code Package on the  
Mac OS DVD.

Make install created the necessary binaries. Launching ChessDB by  
entering ./chessdb in a Terminal window starts up ChessDB. The startup  
info screen shows no issues. However, the menu bar for the program is  
missing. In Mac OS, the menu bar for all programs sits on the top edge  
of the screen. But there is no such menu bar (with items File, Edit,  
Tools etc. for ChessDB. Only the menu bar for "Terminal" shows up. I  
also tried to use the X11 environment, but to no avail.

My screen looks exactly as on the screenshots on the ChessDB website.  
There also, no menu bar is visible:

http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/tutorial/img/Mac-OS-X-ChessDBStarting.png
http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/tutorial/img/Mac-OS-X-ChessDBMainWindow1.png

The same problem with Scid, by the way.

Is anyone else running ChessDB on a Mac. How did you handle this issue?

Hi Robert,

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:28:15 -0700
Robert Ryan <rbr...@ya...> wrote:

> What does HT in the analysis  window mean? e.g.

it means the move was found in the engine's hash table.=20

>=20
> 11 -3.12  26. ... Bxf3 27. Nxf3 Ng4+ 28. Ke1 Qxf3 29. a7 Qf2+ 30. Kd1
> Ne3+ 31. Bxe3 Qf1+ 32. Kc2 Qxa1 33. d5 c5 34. Kd3 {HT} (5.53)
>=20
> What does the 5.53 mean at the end?

The engine needed 5.53 seconds to come up with that line.

Hth and happy new year!
Detlef

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What does HT in the analysis  window mean? e.g.

11 -3.12  26. ... Bxf3 27. Nxf3 Ng4+ 28. Ke1 Qxf3 29. a7 Qf2+ 30. Kd1
Ne3+ 31. Bxe3 Qf1+ 32. Kc2 Qxa1 33. d5 c5 34. Kd3 {HT} (5.53)

What does the 5.53 mean at the end?

Thanks!

Is it possible to make the game displayed at database startup random (a
la Chessbase Light)? This would be useful for databases of puzzles and
endgame studies.

I know I can use Ctrl+Shift+? after the database is loaded, but I'd like
it to start up random.

Thanks!

I am using chessdb on linux debian.
ChessDB version 3.6.19 b1

When I annotate a game using non-USacsii characters (i.e. accents), the=20
comment editor window shows a 2-byte code instead of my accented character.=
=20
My system encoding is UTF-8.

However, I can enter the characters in another editor using latin-1 encodin=
g=20
and paste them into the comment editor window. Characters coming from .pgn=
=20
files with latin-1 encoding are also displayed correctly.

It seems that chessdb uses latin-1 instead of the utf-8 system encoding.

How could I modify the main chessdb script to make chessdb use the system=20
encoding?  By default, my tcl-tk instalation uses the system encoding, but=
=20
chessdb does not.

Thank you,

Juan M. Rius
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_______________________________________________________
Juan M. Rius
Dpt. Teoria del Senyal i Comunicacions
Universitat Polit=E8cnica de Catalunya
Campus Nord UPC, Edifici D-3
Jordi Girona, 1-3
08034 - BARCELONA
Spain
Phone: 34-93-4017219
=46ax: 34-93-4017232
e-mail: ri...@ts... <mailto:ri...@ts...> http://www.tsc.upc.edu/e=
ef

Hi
  I'm not on the internet at home, but I use the internet at my local Library.  How can I download the 3.5 million database in the Library, and take it home, on  a flash drive?  Also could I keep the database on a cd or flash drive not to use up too much memory on my computer?
  With thanks for any replies.
  Bill Davies

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Hi,

I use chessdb in lunx/debian and love it.

Maybe there is a bug in chessdb 2.6.19 beta-1. When I try to annotate a gam=
e=20
using a chess engine and select "only obviously poor moves", it annotates a=
ll=20
moves instead of only blunders.

This used to work in version 2.6.18. Is it a bug in the new version? I set =
a=20
proper value of "score for blunders" (1.5 or 2.0 points).

Also, in the beta version ctrl-D does not open the database switcher window=
,=20
as it used to do before.

Regards,

Juan

=2D-=20
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Juan M. Rius
Dpt. Teoria del Senyal i Comunicacions
Universitat Polit=E8cnica de Catalunya
Campus Nord UPC, Edifici D-3
Jordi Girona, 1-3
08034 - BARCELONA
Spain
Phone: 34-93-4017219
=46ax: 34-93-4017232
e-mail: ri...@ts... <mailto:ri...@ts...> http://www.tsc.upc.edu/e=
ef

2007/9/16, nebulus <ne...@im...>:
>
> > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Blue Devil Knight <blu...@ya...>
> > Subject: [Chessdb-users] Saving filtered games?
> > To: ChessDB Users <che...@li...>
> > Message-ID: <936...@we...>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I want to save a filtered subset of the full database. E.g., I want to
> > save all the positions that start 1. e4 e4 2. d4 into its own separate
> > database. I filtered my games, and hit 'save' but it says I can't save
> > things manually. What should I do?
> >
> > Thanks
> > BDKnight
>
> You can do it this way: After you've filtered your games go to Tools ->
> Export all filter games -> Export games to PGN file and then create a
> new database from this file.
>
> //nebulus
>
> --
>

Create your database before you filter games.  After you have filtered,
activate the database selector and click and drag from the filtered database
to the new database.

> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Blue Devil Knight <blu...@ya...>
> Subject: [Chessdb-users] Saving filtered games?
> To: ChessDB Users <che...@li...>
> Message-ID: <936...@we...>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I want to save a filtered subset of the full database. E.g., I want to
> save all the positions that start 1. e4 e4 2. d4 into its own separate
> database. I filtered my games, and hit 'save' but it says I can't save
> things manually. What should I do?
> 
> Thanks
> BDKnight

You can do it this way: After you've filtered your games go to Tools ->
Export all filter games -> Export games to PGN file and then create a
new database from this file.

//nebulus

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I want to save a filtered subset of the full database. E.g., I want to save all the positions that start 1. e4 e4 2. d4 into its own separate database. I filtered my games, and hit 'save' but it says I can't save things manually. What should I do?

Thanks
BDKnight

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Yes, the 'huge' database had been built and is usable, and I did have to 
manually delete the zips and individual download chunks.  Thanks as 
usual for your prompt and accurate assistance.  Great project.

Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> Peter Horst wrote:
> > Hi - in using Chessdb's built-in downloading facility, I ran across the 
> > following error. This popped up after all 57 pieces of the "huge" 
> > database had been downloaded into /bin/databases.  WinXP Pro SP2.  Not 
> > sure now what to do.  Oh, and I had received a previous error message 
> > saying that Chessdb couldn't locate an md5 executable, but that one was 
> > included with the binary Windows distribution - which is odd, 
> > considering I thought I was using the binary Windows distribution...
> >
> > couldn't execute "": no such file or directory
> > couldn't execute "": no such file or directory
> >     while executing
> > "exec $md5prog $CompleteGameFileName "
> >     (procedure "::tools::DownloadHugeDatabase" line 442)
> >     invoked from within
> > "::tools::DownloadHugeDatabase http://www.chesstutor.net/databases huge "
> >     (menu invoke)
> >
> > Thanks -
> >
> > Peter
> >   
> Hi,
> Sorry about that, it appears to be a bug in the beta release, which of 
> course I'll try to fix before making the next stable release.
>
> I'm not sure why ChessDB can't find md5.exe. It *is* included in the 
> Windows binary install, but perhaps I am mistaken in my assumption the 
> system would find it, should it be in the same directory as the 
> chessdb.exe program. I will look to address that asap. It seems to be a 
> bit inconsistent across windows platforms this one. Its very odd that it 
> is in the same directory as 'unzip' which is also called for TWIC 
> downloads and that works fine.
>
> You will probably find the database is OK and there is nothing needed to 
> do, other than simply use the 3.5 million game database.
>
> ChessDB only calculates the MD5 checksum to verify the database is OK. 
> It will not do that until after it has downloaded all the parts and made 
> the one large database. So unless there was some unexpected corruption, 
> you should find the database will just work.
>
> You may need to delete manually the zip files and the files ending in 
> aa, ab, ac, ad ..az, ba, bb etc manually. Just ensure you do NOT delete 
> huge.si3, huge.sn3 and huge.sg3.
>
>
>   

Hi - in using Chessdb's built-in downloading facility, I ran across the 
following error. This popped up after all 57 pieces of the "huge" 
database had been downloaded into /bin/databases.  WinXP Pro SP2.  Not 
sure now what to do.  Oh, and I had received a previous error message 
saying that Chessdb couldn't locate an md5 executable, but that one was 
included with the binary Windows distribution - which is odd, 
considering I thought I was using the binary Windows distribution...

couldn't execute "": no such file or directory
couldn't execute "": no such file or directory
    while executing
"exec $md5prog $CompleteGameFileName "
    (procedure "::tools::DownloadHugeDatabase" line 442)
    invoked from within
"::tools::DownloadHugeDatabase http://www.chesstutor.net/databases huge "
    (menu invoke)

Thanks -

Peter

Peter Horst wrote:
> Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> 
>> OK, it was meant to be downloaded from within ChessDB - you have done 
>> a lot of unnecessary work.
>>
>> It should have been done from the Tools menu - i.e. "Tools" menu, 
>> select "Download Games from" then select "3.5 million site #1"
>>   
> 
> 
> Jumping into the thread with a (somewhat) related question, if I may - I 
> have a main database that consists of whatever I was able to grab from 
> TWIC (~ 650K games via the ChessDB automated interface).  If I download 
> the 3.5 million game database on top of that, should it be possible to 
> use ChessDB's duplicate-removal tools to unify the two databases into 
> one large whole?  Or is that unnecessarily complicated?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

It should be possible, but on such large databases there is going to be 
a lot of spellings which are ambiguous, so it may not be quite as simple 
as you might like.

If you want to merge them, I would split the databases a bit by date 
first, as a temporary measure, since

1) The 3.5 million game database has games much older than on TWIC

2) The latest TWIC issues will have games more recent than the 3.5 
million game database.

Hence you can create an even bigger database by using the early games 
from the 3.5 million game database, and the recent ones from TWIC. For 
the period where they overlap in time, then you will need to find the 
duplicates. But by not looking for duplicates over dates when they can't 
be any, you will make finding the duplicates a lot easier.

Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> OK, it was meant to be downloaded from within ChessDB - you have done a 
> lot of unnecessary work.
>
> It should have been done from the Tools menu - i.e. "Tools" menu, select 
> "Download Games from" then select "3.5 million site #1"
>   

Jumping into the thread with a (somewhat) related question, if I may - I 
have a main database that consists of whatever I was able to grab from 
TWIC (~ 650K games via the ChessDB automated interface).  If I download 
the 3.5 million game database on top of that, should it be possible to 
use ChessDB's duplicate-removal tools to unify the two databases into 
one large whole?  Or is that unnecessarily complicated?

Thanks.

It should have been done from the Tools menu - i.e. "Tools" menu, select 
"Download Games from" then select "3.5 million site #1"
ChessDB tip 1 popped up this morning, confirming this. Thanks for your help!

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Blue Devil Knight wrote:

> I downloaded them via my browser from here:  
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=184864&package_id=223252&release_id=489966
> 

OK, it was meant to be downloaded from within ChessDB - you have done a 
lot of unnecessary work.

It should have been done from the Tools menu - i.e. "Tools" menu, select 
"Download Games from" then select "3.5 million site #1"

> All the .si, .sg, and other files from this page are
> now extracted into a single file. 

They should *not* be one file. There should be 3 files, one with the 
extension .si3, another with the extension .sn3 and another .sg3.

The files do need to all be extracted, but then contatonated, such as 
the first part of the huge.sg3 file is made up from huge.sg3aa, the 
second part is huge.sg3ab, the third is huge.sg3ac and so on.

You could probably do it like this on on a command tool

c:\> copy /b huge.sg3aa+huge.sg3ab+huge.sg3ac   huge.sg3
(but dont stop at the 'ac', but continue to the last one. )

Do likewise for the huge.si3 and huge.sn3

BUT, that would be very error prone, so I think there is a better way.

What I suggest you do now it so select the Tools menu, the select 
"Download games from", then select "3.5 million, site #1". But when you 
select a directory choose *exactly* the directory to where you have put 
the files before. ChessDB would normally download, extract and 
contatonate these automatically for you, but since you have done it, it 
should not need to download much again - it will download 3 small zip 
files, but that is all. Hopefully, you should see some messages about it 
finding the files on your disk and so it not downloading them.

Let me know if you manage that ok.

David Kirkby" <dav...@on...> wrote:

> Blue Devil Knight wrote:
> > Here's what I've done so far:
> > 1. Downloaded all the database files and unzipped
>  >them into one folder.
> > 
> > I am using Windows XP, ChessDB ver 3.6.19 beta-1.
>
> How did you download them - via a browser, or within
> ChessDB?

I downloaded them via my browser from here:  
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=184864&package_id=223252&release_id=489966

All the .si, .sg, and other files from this page are
now extracted into a single file. I did it manually,
browser-style, as I couldn't figure out how to
download using ChessDB itself (which, incidentally, is
*great* as I've tested it out with a pgn).

Thanks for your quick reply.

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Hi, you don't say what type of databases you want to concatenate. If they
are pgn's is probably best to concatenate them using the command prompt
(like the old dos screen) this is available in XP. Run the command prompt
program (from memory I think it is under the accessories option). Change to
drive and directory containing your pgn,s; then run "type *.pgn >
anyuniquename,pgn". This should give you a concatenated pgn then you can
either use it as it is in chessdb (read only) or import it into a new
chessdb (scid) database (recommended) . Not knowing how much you know about
programming I hope this isn't too brief. Others may know a simpler method
but that's how I would do it.
Hope this helped, John.

I just installed ChessDB, and all of the files in the 3.5 million-game database. Now what do I do? I couldn't find instructions on how to create a single unified database from these 50+ files. Any help would be appreciated, or a link to instructions. 

Here's what I've done so far:
1. Downloaded all the database files and unzipped them into one folder.

When I choose 'open' in ChessDB and go to that folder nothing appears. It says in the documentation that these need to be 'concatenated' into one database. How do I do this? How do I get this database to a usable form?

I am using Windows XP, ChessDB ver 3.6.19 beta-1.

Best,
BDK

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This is very helpful, thanks - you've answered all of my questions...

Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> Peter Horst wrote:
> > Hi - maybe a dumb couple of questions, but here goes.
> Hi Peter,
> lets try to answer your questions.
> >   What I'd like to 
> > do is to construct a .pgn file composed just of the games from the 
> > recent Aerosvit (Foros) tournament; other questions have arisen out of 
> > this desire.
> >   
> That should be easy enough.
> [snip]
>   

I intend making a new release of ChessDB soon, but just need to sort out 
a few things, including some documentation, as one new feature is far 
from obvious and so needs a lot of explanation.

However, many of the language files have not been updated recently (with 
the exception of Swedish, which Hans Eriksson has done a great job on).

If anyone can update one, could they download the relevant file from:

http://chessdb.cvs.sourceforge.net/chessdb/chessdb/tcl/lang/

The main file that needs changing is the xxxx-basic.tcl.

Click on that, then download it, by selecting 'download' on the line 
which starts:

Links to HEAD: 	(view) (download) (as text) (annotate)

There are loads of different download links once you click a language 
file, but clicking it on that line will download the latest version of 
the file.

Dave

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