Re: [Chategory-devl] Versioning: Chategory 2.0, 3.0

[Mike at GBHXonline.c. <mik...@gb...>]

Hello Chatters,

Thanks for the archive link. I had missed that. I was looking at the =
referred Yahoo page and reading about that (and others). Good stuff.=20

I suppose Chategory could be delivered in parts. The drive nowadays =
being to separate style from mark-up, no reason that couldn't be the =
focus here I suppose. Two parts: The engine and the vehicle. The engine =
is what makes Chategory work, the vehicle being what makes it look =
organized on the page (the basic style sheet and set of beginning =
classes and IDs).

To aid the web developer/user, two things could be done in addition to =
offering the basic style. First there should be an inclusion of =
additional classes and IDs. Driftwood and deadweight now, but they =
afford more design flexibility later on down the road. Second, a more =
involved style configuration could be supplied as a plug-in/option. The =
second CSS would make use of the spare classes and IDs (to make sure it =
works and is complete for one thing).

This stems from a problem with the first release. It had so little =
mark-up in the stand alone, it was a challenge to add style in any deep =
and meaningful way. Having a wrapper div thrown in there would have been =
nice, even it wasn't used at the time of the release. If we supply the =
elements, divs, and spans, people can have more fun with it. But ALL =
styling must be CSS. No <small></small>, no <strong></strong>, none of =
it should go into the build unless those elements are semantic in being =
styled as such (really important content needing strong emphasis, etc.) =
included in the CSS.

I haven't checked the files to see what's there for a CSS, but has this =
been considered. Adding classes et. al.?

<div id=3D"wrapping this up">
  <div id=3D"sincerely">
    <div id=3D"Mike"><span class=3D"Cherim"> :) </span></div>
   </div>
</div>


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bob F=20
  To: Chategory Mailing List=20
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chategory-devl] Versioning: Chategory 2.0, 3.0


  Aye, sorry, I feel foolished, forgot that you lived out in Texas. =
Everything alright in your neck of the woods?

  In regards to Mike, yes, I saw him added to the team and have spoken =
with him a bit prior. Personally, I think he can be a great help =
user-end, including design and accessibility. I added him to this =
development mailing list a few days ago since, well, he's part of the =
team. =20

  Mike, if you're reading this, you may find it helpful to read this =
(http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=3D46241). =
Sourceforge keeps a copy of messages sent in the mailing list for =
archival purposes, so if you want to know our discussions recently there =
you go.

  I've been planning out templating/archiving in my head. Ultimately =
we'll have a much better MVC model, which means that customization and =
spinoffs like Mike's GreenMethods (http://www.greenmethods.com/gm_live/) =
which is tech support using modified Chategory. I'll try and get it =
moving along, but the archiving system is making my head hurt. Its one =
of those things that I've spent too much time looking at. So I hope to =
get it wrapped up in the next week or so, then I'll commit it to CVS, =
but maybe as a new branch.=20


  On 9/26/05, Jonathan Fenocchi <jo...@sl... > wrote:
    Sorry for no response. Had a hurricane nearby and was out for about =
a
    week. Still trying to get back into the swing of things, so I might =
not
    be of much help in the coming couple of weeks. Hope to get back on =
track
    very soon, though.

    I haven't touched templating as of yet, and as far as I know no one =
else=20
    has either.

    By the way, I just wanted to update everyone on a new team member, =
Mike
    Cherim. He's not superlative in his programming skills, but he is a
    great creative source and will no doubt help keep the project =
running=20
    (trust me, he's pretty good at that). Also I think his assistance =
will
    be invaluable in regards to the user interface design. I plan to get =
him
    into helping us out as soon as possible, so look out for messages =
from=20
    him on the mailing list and elsewhere in the coming weeks.



  --=20
  - Da Bob