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Re: [Cecilia-users] startup troubles-- ("not a valid audio file")

[forrest c. <tre...@gm...>]

Okay, answering my own query... I did find Cecillia 4 helpful, once I
borrowed someone else's Windows system to try it on. (Instructions for
linux are still foggy.)

Mainly, the lack of any tutorial at all led me to try the 'additive
synthesis' module, which makes plenty of sound to play with.

The same module is a little different on my "obsolete" home system, but
works!

There's some great programming in this project, but it could use a little
better introductory material.

(If someone else has the expertise, we might collaborate on that?)

[My ideal of a well-designed program + help system was the old Word
Perfect: There were a few basic operations that handled most everything a
normal person would want a word processor to do-- and if you had a
specific, more complex task to carry out, you could work that out from what
you already knew.

vs the "jump in and get overwhelmed" method that seems to be in use here!
Could be improved? Or are there just too many possibilities with this
system?]

[Cecilia-users] startup troubles-- ("not a valid audio file")

[forrest c. <tre...@gm...>]

I find this same problem raised, earlier this year, but the response:
'upgrade to Cecilia 4', isn't working for me either.

I don't necessarily need to be able to digest arbitrary audio files-- but
this is one of the first examples we're given, in the first tutorial, to
pick up an aiff audio file that comes with the linux distribution-- and the
program can't do it.

ChucK's tutorials start up right away with instructions for generating a
'tone' (I mean a noise) and then the second thing you learn, after you've
started generating it, is "how to stop ChucK".

So, along with all this highly abstract overview of Cecilia we start with--
What's the easiest way to simply generate a sine wave and run it out the
dac? And save that as an audio file, one which the program would presumably
be able to read?

[And if I do need to go to a nonpackaged Cecilia, is there any simple way
for people who aren't already experts, and don't want to need to become
experts?]

help???

Forrest Curo
San Diego

[Cecilia-users] Installing problems Mac OS X 10.5.8

[Panos A. <pan...@gm...>]

Dear all,

I have installed Tcl/Tk and also MacCsound.

I am running Cecilia.term and at the Shell Window I gate among others
"-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'".

Could you please help be install Cecilia properly?

Thanks,

Panos

[Cecilia-users] latest sources

[Vedran V. <ved...@gm...>]

Hello,

I would liek to get latest sources of cecilia to build package fro vector
Linux.
Can someone point me to the right place and table with cecilia versions
compared with teh layes csound versions?

thanks,

vedran

[Cecilia-users] Cecilia 3.0.01 working in Linux

[Scott M. <stm...@uc...>]

I was able to fetch the latest Cecilia from Jean Pich=C3=A9's ftp, and wi=
th a
few alterations it works in Linux. The code was ready for Linux as is;
just missing a few things. I made a post on the gentoo forum with
details.=20

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3759480.html#3759480

Disclaimer: I have not tested it at this time other than to open the
program and see that it appears to function normally.=20

Scott

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Re: [Cecilia-users] 2.5.95 missing Csound binary in package?

[Anthony K. <ant...@sb...>]

I have not tried this, but I suggest that you try installing the latest
version of Csound 5 from http://csound.sourceforge.net/  (Note that the
latest version is not linked to on the front page -- try the download page).

The new Cecilia is probably linked to the Csound shared library included
with Csound 5 instead of using a console Csound.

Anthony Kozar
anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


Arvid Tomayko-Peters wrote on 9/12/06 3:35 PM:

> Thanks. But to whom it may concern, the 2.5.95 version posted online
> does not appear to contain the Csound binary within the application
> package, and wouldn't work with another csound binary i directed it
> to. Maybe thats why nobody said anything about it? :)
> 
> however, the 2.5.9 cecilia on the FTP server seems to work great.
> Just made some sounds with it last night that are maybe fit for some
> Halloween party or something out of some dumb tracks of me singing
> jibberish...

Re: [Cecilia-users] 2.5.95 missing Csound binary in package?

[Arvid Tomayko-P. <ar...@ea...>]

Thanks. But to whom it may concern, the 2.5.95 version posted online =20
does not appear to contain the Csound binary within the application =20
package, and wouldn't work with another csound binary i directed it =20
to. Maybe thats why nobody said anything about it? :)

however, the 2.5.9 cecilia on the FTP server seems to work great. =20
Just made some sounds with it last night that are maybe fit for some =20
Halloween party or something out of some dumb tracks of me singing =20
jibberish...

best,
Arvid
=96=96=96
Arvid Tomayko-Peters

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Re: [Cecilia-users] Cecilia-users Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2

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[Cecilia-users] Cecilia 2.5.95 OS X

[Scott M. <sco...@gm...>]

ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/FTP_Musique/Cecilia/

  I noticed there is a new version of Cecilia here for OS X - 2.5.95
being the latest from Feb 2006. I didn't see any chatter on the
mailing lists about this, so I thought I would pass this along if you
are interested.

Scott

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Re: [Cecilia-users] Cecilia-users Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1

[Scott P. <sco...@fr...>]

The files are all 16 bit.

I have the latest TCL/TK.

-S



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> hope that helps
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>> Hi All,
>>     I've never worked with the OS X bundled app version of Cecilia  
>> and
>> it's giving me an error.  When I try to load a soundfile, regardless
>> of whether the file is an aiff or wav, the error message says that
>> the program cannot recognize the file as a soundfile -- that I have
>> to use aiff or wav (which I am).  I've even tried "re-aiffing" my
>> files through sox to make them extra-aiff (yeah, that's silly) but no
>> go.  It seems to be a header issue, but cecilia is the only program
>> that doesn't recognize the files as audio.
>>
>> I appreciate all help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -S
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Re: [Cecilia-users] Cecilia-users Digest, Vol 1, Issue 79

[peiman k. <pei...@ao...>]

Hi,
are your files 32 bit float? I have that problem, try converting to  
16 or 24 bit
otherwise you can try re-installing/updating Tcl/Tk
hope that helps
peiman
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> Hi All,
>     I've never worked with the OS X bundled app version of Cecilia and
> it's giving me an error.  When I try to load a soundfile, regardless
> of whether the file is an aiff or wav, the error message says that
> the program cannot recognize the file as a soundfile -- that I have
> to use aiff or wav (which I am).  I've even tried "re-aiffing" my
> files through sox to make them extra-aiff (yeah, that's silly) but no
> go.  It seems to be a header issue, but cecilia is the only program
> that doesn't recognize the files as audio.
>
> I appreciate all help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -S
>
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Re: [Cecilia-users] Cecilia-users Digest, Vol 1, Issue 81

[peiman k. <pei...@ao...>]

Hi,

I am on osx using cecilia and have had a similar problem. The thing  
is that Cecilia does not read 32 bit float aif files (in practice).  
In this case those exported by Audacity (AIFF (Apple/SGI), 32 bit  
float).
The file will not even be opened I get this error: "I cannot  
recognize this file as audio. AIFF or WAVE only please. for SDII  
files, you must convert them before you can use them in Cecilia"

I have no idea what is causing this but the files are sure AIFF and  
non of them can be opened. I have had to convert everything I have to  
24bit and it works.

I hope that helps
Thanks
Peiman


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> Well, I'd post an aif, but as I stated before, this occurred with
> about 10 or so files of both the wav and aif variety.  Also, I
> thought I had posted this, but I must have e-mailed it directly to
> someone who responded to one of my earlier messages -- I actually got
> 2.5.8 to work.  IOW, it reads the sound files that 2.5.9(5) would
> not.  This all leads me to believe that header errors in the files is
> really not the problem.  Whether or not the newer version has an
> error that makes it read headers incorrectly or not I do not know.
>
> -S
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> On Jun 18, 2006, at 2:01 PM, cecilia-users-
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>> More helpful might be to tell us how the wavs and aiffs were
>> created in the
>> first place.  (Which program, version, etc.)
>>
>> If you can post one of the aiff files somewhere where I can
>> download it, I
>> can check the header for errors.
>>
>> Anthony Kozar
>> anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net
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Re: [Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Scott P. <sco...@fr...>]

Well, I'd post an aif, but as I stated before, this occurred with  
about 10 or so files of both the wav and aif variety.  Also, I  
thought I had posted this, but I must have e-mailed it directly to  
someone who responded to one of my earlier messages -- I actually got  
2.5.8 to work.  IOW, it reads the sound files that 2.5.9(5) would  
not.  This all leads me to believe that header errors in the files is  
really not the problem.  Whether or not the newer version has an  
error that makes it read headers incorrectly or not I do not know.

-S



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> More helpful might be to tell us how the wavs and aiffs were  
> created in the
> first place.  (Which program, version, etc.)
>
> If you can post one of the aiff files somewhere where I can  
> download it, I
> can check the header for errors.
>
> Anthony Kozar
> anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


Scott Petersen, Composer
Eastman Computer Music Center
Eastman School of Music

www.scottpetersen.net

Re: [Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Anthony K. <ant...@sb...>]

More helpful might be to tell us how the wavs and aiffs were created in the
first place.  (Which program, version, etc.)

If you can post one of the aiff files somewhere where I can download it, I
can check the header for errors.

Anthony Kozar
anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


Scott Petersen wrote on 6/18/06 8:32 AM:

> 1) Yes, the error occurs with all sound files.  I've tried 2-3 .wavs
> and 2-3 .aifs.
> 
> My specs are
> 
> Dual 2.5 Ghz G5
> OS 10.4.6
> 
> The versions of cecilia I tried were 2.5.3, 2.5.8 and 2.5.9.  So far,
> only the 2.5.8 has worked -- and I only discovered this after working
> out some other error messages (but it does "work" - though there are
> problems with almost every orc file)

Re: [Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Anthony K. <ant...@sb...>]

This email contains a non-printing ASCII control character (control-A).  The
original file might contain this character and that could be causing the
error.

To fix it, try opening the orc file in BBEdit if you have the program, and
use its "Zap Gremlins" command.

Anthony Kozar
anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


Scott Petersen wrote on 6/18/06 9:40 AM:

> Here's the error from the orc file.

> ain = ad        ;   <---illegal character 

> ain2 = ag

Re: [Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Scott P. <sco...@fr...>]

Here's the error from the orc file.


************************************************************************=20=

************
iloop		=3D		i(gkloopi)
	strset	444, "[name]"
ioff	=3D	[offname]
inum =3D 444
kamp=3D1
ktrans=3D1=09
istart =3D 0
iend =3D 1
imod =3D iloop

#include "/Applications/Cecilia.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/files/=20
Sampler2"

ain	=3D	ad        ;   <---illegal character =01
ain2	=3D	ag


areal, aimag 	hilbert 	ain
areal2, aimag2 	hilbert 	ain2

************************************************************************=20=

**********

Obviously the semi-colon denotes the comment.  I suppose since I =20
removed both of the lines that start with "ain" and still got the =20
error that the syntax error is in the line above (usually this is the =20=

case, anyway).

Any ideas?

Thanks,


-S

Re: [Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Scott P. <sco...@fr...>]

1) Yes, the error occurs with all sound files.  I've tried 2-3 .wavs  
and 2-3 .aifs.

My specs are

Dual 2.5 Ghz G5
OS 10.4.6

The versions of cecilia I tried were 2.5.3, 2.5.8 and 2.5.9.  So far,  
only the 2.5.8 has worked -- and I only discovered this after working  
out some other error messages (but it does "work" - though there are  
problems with almost every orc file)

I suppose the problem might be related to the version of tcl/tk the  
program runs in in addition to the version of the program and and the  
operating system.  I got a response from James Brody who stated he  
had similar problems running the newest version -- in fact with him,  
only the 2.5.2 version works, but he has a different version of tcl/ 
tk than mine, though the same OS.

2) There's also a bug with the program where it doesn't remember my  
Csound location.  I can set it to anything, and upon restart it will  
have reset to the default /usr/local/bin/csound setting.

3) The program also thinks there are orc errors, indicating these in  
the now infamous orange text.  I'm not sure if the semi-colon in  
orange is part of the error message or has been highlighted and is  
the error.  Either way, editing the file doesn't help because the  
semi-colon isn't actually there in the orc file, and I cannot figure  
out why it's throwing the "unexpected symbol" error when there's no  
symbol that I can detect anywhere immediately around the line.  (line  
96, for the Pitch Shift module)

Again all help is appreciated.

Thanks

-S



On Jun 17, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Miller, Scott Thomas wrote:

> What version of Cecilia are you using? What OS version of OS X?
> Can you replicate the problem with another audio file?
>


Scott Petersen, Composer
Eastman Computer Music Center
Eastman School of Music

www.scottpetersen.net

Re: [Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Miller, S. T. <ST...@ec...>]

What version of Cecilia are you using? What OS version of OS X?
Can you replicate the problem with another audio file?

[Cecilia-users] sound file type error

[Scott P. <sco...@fr...>]

Hi All,
	I've never worked with the OS X bundled app version of Cecilia and  
it's giving me an error.  When I try to load a soundfile, regardless  
of whether the file is an aiff or wav, the error message says that  
the program cannot recognize the file as a soundfile -- that I have  
to use aiff or wav (which I am).  I've even tried "re-aiffing" my  
files through sox to make them extra-aiff (yeah, that's silly) but no  
go.  It seems to be a header issue, but cecilia is the only program  
that doesn't recognize the files as audio.

I appreciate all help.

Thanks,

-S

[Cecilia-users] Cecilia Error Message for File Loading

[R. D. D. <rd...@rd...>]

Hi, does anyone know of the fix for it the following error message?

After clicking on the toLoad button from the main Cecilia window, then
getting the fileselect, "Choose a sound file" window, clicking on a
file or path results in an "Application Error" window appearing, with
the following error information:

   Error: list element in quotes followed by ":" instead of space

list element in quotes followed by ":" instead of space
list element in quotes followed by ":" instead of space
    while executing
"lsearch $stuff "AIFF""
    (procedure "getSoundFileInfo" line 4)
    invoked from within
"getSoundFileInfo  $fileselect(dir)/$path"
    (procedure "getInfo" line 7)
    invoked from within
"getInfo"
    (procedure "fileselectClick" line 10)
    invoked from within
"fileselectClick 319"
    (command bound to event)

Note: this is when using version 2.0.5 for Linux, and occurs with TCL
versions 8.3 and 8.4.

I haven't done much of any Tcl scripting, but from what I can tell,
there's a ':' someplace in the string for a list where it shouldn't be
(is that correct?), but I've yet find it. 

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[Cecilia-users] Release of Csound 5.00

[Anthony K. <ant...@sb...>]

Dear Cecilia users!

Please excuse the rampant cross-posting of this announcement if you receive
multiple copies, but we are trying to get the message of this most momentous
event in computer music history out to as many people in the community as
possible.

Rejoice! For Csound 5.00 has been released!

Of special interest to members of this list will probably be the TclCsound
front-end that provides direct control over Csound via Tcl/Tk.  The main
purpose of this is to allow Cecilia to directly interface with Csound.
There are plenty of other reasons to start using Csound 5 as well.

Official announcement and release notes are below.

Questions are very welcome.  They will probably get answered faster and more
accurately if posted to the Csound mailing list (see below).

Enjoy!

Anthony Kozar
anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


----------
From: jpff@[...]
Date: Wed,  1 Feb 2006 15:07:00 +0000
To: cs...@li..., cso...@li...
Subject: [Csnd] Release of Csound5.00

After what has seemed a very long time (because it was...) we are
releasing csound5.00
  The binary, manuals and source files are on
http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound and look for the csound5 files.
The opportunity has been taken to tidy up the assembly of csound4.23
and earlier files and we are leaving the 4.23 files for a short
while.
  Main message -- everyone should change to csound5.  More robust,
faster, more facilities, more fun, more music.

==John ffitch
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Release Notes for Csound 5.00
-----------------------------

The developers are very pleased to be releasing Csound5, for Linux (32
and 64 bit), Mac OSX and Windows, together with an uptodate manual.

The system can be downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound

More details and further information can be found in the
csound-develop mailing list at sourceforge and the main user mailing
list ar cs...@li...

The changes from version 4.23 are extensive.  The internal structure
of the code has been radically changed, but the language remains
compatible with Csound4, and all old orchestra/scores should run
unchanged.

The main visible change is that we are using a plugin style of
system.  many of the opcodes are now loaded at start-up.  This opens
the way for private opcode libraries, and opcodes released under other
licences than LGPL.

The other major change is a move to the use of external libraries
where possible.  All the internal code for sound files, realtime audio
etc has been replaced.  We are now using libsndfile for audio file
I/O, and one of ALSA, PortAudio, CoreAudio, MME or ASIO for realtime.
MIDI may be handled by PortMIDI as well.  The incorporation of Open
Sound Control facilities uses the liblo library.

A number of opcodes from csoundAV and csoundVST are now part of the
main system.

Another major change is that Csound5 is embeddable in other
programming systems, using an API for information linkage.  We are
including Python, Java and other bindings for the API.  Csound5 can
also have multiple instances and is re-entrant.

In addition there are a number of new opcodes, and of course bug
fixes.  We believe that csound5 is faster than csound4, and we
encourage all users to move to it.

NOTE: IT MAY BE NECESSARY ON SOME PLATFORMS TO HAVE EITHER ENVIRONMENT
VARIABLES OPCODEDIR OR OPCODEDIR64 SET TO POINT TO DIRECTORY WHERE
OPCODES LIVE.  THE RELEASED FILES ARE BELIEVED TO BE SAFE AND CORRECT
IN THIS RESPECT BUT BEWARE!


New features:
------------
Access to multiple ALSA devices
FLTK widgets reworked and synchronised with csoundAV
User defined gens with names (rather than numbers)
--expression-opt command option
Information on time for each phase of csound if required
Command line options to set ID tags in output soundfile
        (title/copyright etc)
Jack available as output device
--sched option now accepts a priority value
-+rtaudio option to select output system
Many new command line options
Utilities to create csd files from orc/score
Tcl/TK frontends (cstclsh and cswish)
Can use looping structures in WAV files as well as AIFF
Increased number of possible input and output audio file formats
named channels
#ifdef in orchestra
removed limitation of only one track in MIDI input files
MIDI output can also be written to a file (this is somewhat limited)
MIDI-style extra time and release (xtratim, linsegr, etc.) is now
        also possible with score notes
string variables (of type S)
automatic conversion of some C-style escape sequences (\n, \r, ASCII
        code in octal \ooo format, etc) in string constants
made internal indexes to orchestra variables 32 bit (was 16 bit in
        Csound 4), allowing for larger and more complex instruments
replaced old PVOC format with PVOC-EX in all related opcodes
SADIR SSDIR and INCDIR can now be a colon separated list of directories


New Opcodes:
-----------
maxk
tab, tabw, and tb0()..tb15()
vst4cs plugin opcodes
pconvolve
ftconv
loris opcodes
Python opcodes
fluid opcodes
chani and chano; chnset and chnget (string indexed)
GEN43
a number of pvs (streaming phase vocoder) opcodes
moogladder
statevar
fofilter
syncgrain
miditempo
event_i
reverbsc (Sean Costello's waveguide reverb)
freeverb
gentune GEN operation
GEN51
GEN52
diskin2
turnoff2
a-rate int() and frac(), and round(), floor(), and ceil()
 << and >> operators
STK (Perry Cook) instruments available from original code
k() function
Mixer opcodes
OSCrecv, OSClisten, OSCsend
loop opcodes
printf, printf_i
string hacking opcodes


Bug Fixes:
---------
Error in tablew fixed
Minor fixed in dcblock
Include files were confused by sections
Improved reading of command line
Fixes in dynamic fgen numbers
gogobel and vibraphone amplitude fix
Arguments to schewhen were wrong
Better checking in bqrez
minor checking in grain
wguide2, wguide1 avoid very low frequencies
wgpluck bug fix
Some error messages corrected and typos fixed
FLsetVal arguments were wrong
outo missed out channel 6
fixed bugs and improved error reporting in ^+ and ^- code.
kread, kdump and a number of other opcodes will take string arguments
        from the score
bug fix in sinc window (gen20)
Added iskip options to moogvcf, vco, bqrez, pareq, tbvcf and rezzy
        values rounded rather than truncated in deltap, comb, and delay
removed spurious initial values from some MIDI opcodes
Joystick was upside down
lpshold and loopseg changed to agree with csoundAV
marimba now allows zero probability of a multiple strike
Added skipinit argument to diskin and soundin
wave-terrain fixes for phase error accumulation (on long notes)
new optional argument to delayr and all deltap opcodes,
          to allow delay taps to read from any of the nested delayr/delayw
          pairs, not just the last
new optional argument to distort1 opcode (defaults to zero),
          to select amplitude scaling mode (0: default, compatible with
          original version; 1: relative to 0dBFS, same as mode 0 if 0dbfs is
          32768; 2: unscaled)
valpass fixed parameter overwriting
Improved accuracy in some filters
Improvements in bowedbar

JPff -- 1 Feb 2006

Files on Sourceforge
====================

Sources:
        Csound5.00_src.tar.gz
        Csound5.00_src.zip
        Csound5.00_OS9_src.smi.bin
        Csound5.00_src_all.tar.gz (including Loris and STK code)
        Csound5.00_src_all.zip (including Loris and STK code)

Manual
        Csound5.00_manual_chm.zip
        Csound5.00_manual_html.zip
        Csound5.00_manual_pdf.zip
        Csound5.00_manual_pdf_A4.zip
        Csound5.00_manual_single_file.zip

OS9:
        Csound5.00_OS9.smi.bin

OSX:
        Csound5.00_OSX10.3.tar.gz
        Csound5.00_OSX10.4.tar.gz

Linux
        Csound5.00_i686.rpm
        Csound5.00_x86_64.rpm
        [Linux for non-root users on X86_64
            Csound5.00_x86_64d.tar.gz
            Csound5.00_x86_64f.tar.gz
        ]

Windows
        Csound5.00_win32.i686.zip
        Csound5.00_win32.exe (with installed)

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[Cecilia-users] An addendum to my last post

[James B. <jam...@gm...>]

I mistakenly called Tcl/Tk 'tck'. Sorry.

When searching with Google for the error message which 'Error: list 
element in quotes followed by ":" instead of space' I find that it is an 
error which occurs in Tcl/Tk 8.4.4.0 and not in Cecilia. I still do not 
know what to do about it and would appreciate any help from the community.

BTW, I am running OSX 10.3.7 on a dual 1.25 GHz processor G4

Many thanks,

James Brody
jam...@gm...