Re: [cdk-devel] 3D graphics, XXXWriter problems, and RFC#11

[Egon W. <el...@ca...>]

On Tuesday 25 February 2003 12:29 pm, Edgar Luttmann wrote:
> >good to hear from you again.
>
> Sorry but the usual mixture between to busy and much to busy, and on top
> of that my boss also wants me to work on my Ph.D.;.)

Yes, the ever returning problem many of us have :(

> >Op maandag 24 februari 2003 16:33, schreef Edgar Luttmann:
> >>I worked a little bit on the Accelerated3DRenderer and the associated
> >>Model and I already use that for my own purpose of visualization.
> >
> >I never have been able to actually use it because I never got around to
> >correctly install a Java3D distro on my linux box... Could you try and
> >see if the cdk.applications.Viewer app runs with Java3D?
>
> It runs (Windows and Linux), but displays only weird stuff at the top
> left corner of the window. I can remember, that I played with it when we
> started that article and there were only minor changes necessary to get
> a molecule drawn. Although those minor changes have disappeared.

That's unfortunate... Do you know what the minor changes were, so that they
can be checked in again?

> >>I'm extending this as I need to and I do think about finally using the
> >>applet form of it as a chime replacement. Although the current state is
> >>far from it. So I'm not to sure if something like that (JIME ;-) or
> >>maybe JModelKit) should be a part of the cdk or if it should form a
> >>separate project. I'm even wondering if somthing like that should or
> >>would be part of JMol. I'm trying to wrap it up in a single jar so that
> >>anyone interested can check it out.
> >
> >I am in the process of modifying Jmol to be better integrated with CDK,
> >ultimately having the the non accelerated 3D viewer of Jmol in CDK...
> >I envision Jmol to be able to switch between three viewers, its native
> >viewer, yours and the 2D viewer...
> >
> >A patch to Jmol that would allow the use of the accelerated 3D viewer
> > would be much appreciated ;)
>
> I will browse through the JMol sources to get an idea how to incorporate
> the Accelerated 3D Renderer into JMol.

(Jmol is with a lower case m)

It should be the other way around... I/we need to figure out how to pass data 
in Jmol into a CDK based renderer... We need to define a common API which
all CDK renderers use... in the end the acc-3D, the Jmol-3D and the 2D need
to implement this API, and then one could very easily switch between them....

> >BTW, if your prefer a Java3D based applet over a non-accelerated applet
> > like Jmol, you might want to contact Hens Borkent (see www.cmbi.kun.nl)
> > who has a Java 3D based applet for internal use...
>
> I know, and luckily Hens is this week full time here in Paderborn and he
> will be staying part time for several more weeks. I wanted to merge his
> Jaime into the actual state (of what I call) Jime.

Aha, I know we was working with Paderborn now and then... Send him my regards.

Egon