Re: [Bodington-developers] Top frame styling improvement - commited to HEAD

[Jon M. <jo...@te...>]

In summary,
o There is a good solution - using CSS 2.1, trouble is it requires 
browsers to properly support CSS 2.1
o Bad browsers mean we need to use bad HTML and/or bad CSS
o My conclusion is that we have to deal with the whackier browsers for 
the time being and plan for most browsers properly supporting CSS in a 
year or two's time.

Therefore I propose an interim solution, i.e. the use of a very simple 
table with a fixed height. One cell on the left would contain the 
navigation icons and the title and within that the icons would float 
left therefore allowing the title to wrap to two or more lines beside 
it. A second cell on the right would have a fixed width and contain... 
...what? Just the quick search?  The use of the table makes it possible 
to vertically centre all the contents which would be neat and should 
work on all browsers.

The rest of the frame could be outside the table or in a second one row 
table and could also vertically centre the contents.

Jon


Owen Davies wrote:
> having spent a fair bit of time on this, i have come to the conclusion that 
> the only justifiable solution is to have a vertical scroll bar on the top 
> frame, because any other solution prevents users who enlarge their text from 
> viewing some of the site content and/or functionality. that is, of course, 
> until the dreaded frames are ditched!
>
> owen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Colin Tatham" <col...@ou...>
> To: "Bodington developers" <bod...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Top frame styling improvement - commited 
> to HEAD
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>> Jon Maber wrote:
>>     
>>> A not very pro CSS solution would be to go back to the use of a table.
>>> I.e. one row, two cells. The height of the row could be fixed and the
>>> width of the right hand cell fixed. This solution would not be too bad
>>> for accessibility because it could be navigated linearly and would work
>>> better with browsers that implement CSS to version 1 or dont handle it
>>> at all.  What do you think about tables?
>>>       
>> If it works I wouldn't mind. We need to find a better overall solution at 
>> some point, so this would
>> only be in the interim.
>>
>> I think we should also decide what the priorities are, as we no-one seems 
>> to have found the perfect
>> solution yet (we've also had Owen here looking at it for quite a while). 
>> Visual appearance? Text
>> re-sizing in browser? Displaying full title rather than abbreviating it? 
>> Limiting max number of
>> parent icons to display?
>>
>> Colin
>>
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