Re: [Bodington-developers] spring

[Ian B. <ia...@ca...>]

Alexis O'Connor wrote:
> Ian Boston wrote:
>> First off, don't use JSF.
>> Unless you are prepared to buy everyone a top end IDE plugin (or 
>> complete IDE) from BEA, IBM, Sun, Oracle or one of the other JSF-JCP 
>> members.
> 
> Java Studio Creator (from Sun) is free these days. Is it a pile of cr#p?
> 

I dont know about JSC today, Some of the products are excellent, but may 
cost, and can bind you to some non open source support libs (Oracles 
JDeveloper did at one point)
JCS.
I tried it once, a long time ago, and found it nothing like as good as 
Eclipse, I a vague memory it worked better with Suns own Web Containers, 
although it did support Tomcat, and there were some Sun jars lurking 
about that made life easier.
I've also tried the MyEclipse a while back, I know some in Sakai use this.
All of these help make life easier, but when you throw session state, 
lack of control over URL's, and complex lifecycle into the pot it all 
gets to complicated.

Dont get me wrong, the aims of JSF (a componentized UI etc etc) are spot 
on, its just the implementation that gets in the way.

Ian

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