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Re: [Bodington-developers] Quotas Implementation
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-05-10 09:07:47
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I guess it depends on how - important you are - often you are looking for work - looking to impress others with your etchings Sean Mehan wrote: > yeah, i can dig that, selwyn. There is a whole, ugly world out there > of e-portfolios and what/how long do we let them keep their crap on > our boxes? I keep hearing about alumni services, but i don't think > that they have costed it, because if it costs, i don't think people > will pay it. > > s > > > On 10 May 2006, at 09:16, Selwyn Lloyd wrote: > >> I also agree that disk pace is cheap, perhaps the unnamed project >> who put forward the student leaves and must take stuff with them >> usecase was thinking of the cost of managing users, support etc... >> >> the main issue I was putting up for discussion was based on this.... >> letting the student know their quota expires.... >> >> get / set quota expiry >> >> -------------------------- >> >> in the agreeable world of cheap disk space perhaps you can consider >> its the other human services which expire when you leave the Ed >> Ins... such as support contract expired, file recovery service >> expired etc... perhaps a business op for HEi's?? >> >> >> Sean Mehan wrote: >> >>> I agree about the quota thing from Matthew's perspective. Disk is >>> cheap. Backup might not be, but perhaps with the >>> MyBodWebFolderYourFavNameHere idea of allowing people to have >>> space on their box, it might be better to invest time in >>> separating the individual user file space from more traditional >>> rooms? >>> >>> We are starting up an elgg (elgg.net) for our user's social needs, >>> and I suspect that that will fill up far faster than the more >>> stuffy vle, because people will want to fill it up with >>> interesting stuff, not their course work. >>> >>> BTW, we will be looking at tying that elgg into our groupspace, >>> e.g., people would be able to find in elgg all the people on their >>> bod course, in case that is of interest to any others out there. >>> >>> Also, Matthew, the stuff on partitioning the groupspace seems >>> interesting. We are planning on some work to allow for cleaner, >>> more compliant sub-grouping in bod, that means something outside >>> of bod, i.e., not everything is called ad-hoc!-) >>> >>> Definitely should get heads together on this one. Perhaps the >>> first of uncle adam's agony chats? >>> >>> s >>> >>> >>> On 10 May 2006, at 08:32, Matthew Buckett wrote: >>> >>>> Selwyn Lloyd wrote: >>>> >>>>> Matthew: >>>>> have you guys locked down the amount of user accounts or special >>>>> groups a user might create... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At the moment Bodington doesn't support account creation with an >>>> email address so we create all our accounts through a user import >>>> feed. >>>> >>>>> assuming you have single log on or admin created users... being >>>>> intranet so probably easy... so probably yes [shut up sel] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The plan is to allow people to create groups through be give them >>>> a specific part of the group namespace. >>>> >>>>> i.e. to stop what i did in the early days of yahoo to get more >>>>> space [multiple user identities] >>>>> not so for a lifelong learning portal unless we do some kind of >>>>> identity creation and identity locking >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> With disk space being so cheap I don't think it is too much of a >>>> problem. What makes storage much more expensive is good backups >>>> and management. >>>> >>>>> with our ionode based e-portfolio / learner portals [eells, >>>>> learningmatrix, icebox, pdp4life] we are currently looking at >>>>> various theoretical quota use cases for lifelong learning >>>>> scenarios... >>>>> so this topic is food for thought for us too [currently we set >>>>> 20mb per user until told otherwise] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I much prefer the quota model that a site such as flickr has >>>> where you have a quota per month rather than an overall quota as >>>> this doesn't penalise the regular users and in fact encourages it. >>>> >>>>> Once projected scenario is when a student leaves they are given >>>>> a deadline to move their files / electronic stuff so there is >>>>> room for the next batch of students [bear with me :)] >>>>> Keeping this to one consideration with multiple theoretical use >>>>> cases in bodington... >>>>> "get / set quota expiry date" >>>>> our special groups/ communities/ users/ would also have >>>>> 'quotas'... they may like the idea of the group managing a >>>>> quota, and the user managing their individual quota... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1Tb of RAID 5 array is so cheap now do you need to worry? >>>> >>>>> are you suggesting you might quota the files uploaded as a total >>>>> across multiple resources against a single user? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No the exact opposite. No quotas will be against users. All >>>> quotas will be against parts of the tree and it just depends who >>>> manages the files at the part of the tree as to who gets to fill >>>> the quota. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer >>>> -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services >>>> -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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