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Re: [Bodington-developers] Quotas Implementation
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2006-05-10 08:55:18
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yeah, i can dig that, selwyn. There is a whole, ugly world out there of e-portfolios and what/how long do we let them keep their crap on our boxes? I keep hearing about alumni services, but i don't think that they have costed it, because if it costs, i don't think people will pay it. s On 10 May 2006, at 09:16, Selwyn Lloyd wrote: > I also agree that disk pace is cheap, perhaps the unnamed project > who put forward the student leaves and must take stuff with them > usecase was thinking of the cost of managing users, support etc... > > the main issue I was putting up for discussion was based on > this.... letting the student know their quota expires.... > > get / set quota expiry > > -------------------------- > > in the agreeable world of cheap disk space perhaps you can consider > its the other human services which expire when you leave the Ed > Ins... such as support contract expired, file recovery service > expired etc... perhaps a business op for HEi's?? > > > Sean Mehan wrote: > >> I agree about the quota thing from Matthew's perspective. Disk is >> cheap. Backup might not be, but perhaps with the >> MyBodWebFolderYourFavNameHere idea of allowing people to have >> space on their box, it might be better to invest time in >> separating the individual user file space from more traditional >> rooms? >> >> We are starting up an elgg (elgg.net) for our user's social >> needs, and I suspect that that will fill up far faster than the >> more stuffy vle, because people will want to fill it up with >> interesting stuff, not their course work. >> >> BTW, we will be looking at tying that elgg into our groupspace, >> e.g., people would be able to find in elgg all the people on >> their bod course, in case that is of interest to any others out >> there. >> >> Also, Matthew, the stuff on partitioning the groupspace seems >> interesting. We are planning on some work to allow for cleaner, >> more compliant sub-grouping in bod, that means something outside >> of bod, i.e., not everything is called ad-hoc!-) >> >> Definitely should get heads together on this one. Perhaps the >> first of uncle adam's agony chats? >> >> s >> >> >> On 10 May 2006, at 08:32, Matthew Buckett wrote: >> >>> Selwyn Lloyd wrote: >>> >>>> Matthew: >>>> have you guys locked down the amount of user accounts or >>>> special groups a user might create... >>> >>> >>> At the moment Bodington doesn't support account creation with an >>> email address so we create all our accounts through a user >>> import feed. >>> >>>> assuming you have single log on or admin created users... being >>>> intranet so probably easy... so probably yes [shut up sel] >>> >>> >>> The plan is to allow people to create groups through be give them >>> a specific part of the group namespace. >>> >>>> i.e. to stop what i did in the early days of yahoo to get more >>>> space [multiple user identities] >>>> not so for a lifelong learning portal unless we do some kind of >>>> identity creation and identity locking >>> >>> >>> With disk space being so cheap I don't think it is too much of a >>> problem. What makes storage much more expensive is good backups >>> and management. >>> >>>> with our ionode based e-portfolio / learner portals [eells, >>>> learningmatrix, icebox, pdp4life] we are currently looking at >>>> various theoretical quota use cases for lifelong learning >>>> scenarios... >>>> so this topic is food for thought for us too [currently we set >>>> 20mb per user until told otherwise] >>> >>> >>> I much prefer the quota model that a site such as flickr has >>> where you have a quota per month rather than an overall quota as >>> this doesn't penalise the regular users and in fact encourages it. >>> >>>> Once projected scenario is when a student leaves they are given >>>> a deadline to move their files / electronic stuff so there is >>>> room for the next batch of students [bear with me :)] >>>> Keeping this to one consideration with multiple theoretical use >>>> cases in bodington... >>>> "get / set quota expiry date" >>>> our special groups/ communities/ users/ would also have >>>> 'quotas'... they may like the idea of the group managing a >>>> quota, and the user managing their individual quota... >>> >>> >>> 1Tb of RAID 5 array is so cheap now do you need to worry? >>> >>>> are you suggesting you might quota the files uploaded as a >>>> total across multiple resources against a single user? >>> >>> >>> No the exact opposite. No quotas will be against users. All >>> quotas will be against parts of the tree and it just depends who >>> manages the files at the part of the tree as to who gets to fill >>> the quota. >>> >>> -- >>> -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer >>> -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing >>> Services >>> -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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