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Re: [Bodington-developers] Quotas Implementation
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From: Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...> - 2006-05-10 08:17:04
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I also agree that disk pace is cheap, perhaps the unnamed project who put forward the student leaves and must take stuff with them usecase was thinking of the cost of managing users, support etc... the main issue I was putting up for discussion was based on this.... letting the student know their quota expires.... get / set quota expiry -------------------------- in the agreeable world of cheap disk space perhaps you can consider its the other human services which expire when you leave the Ed Ins... such as support contract expired, file recovery service expired etc... perhaps a business op for HEi's?? Sean Mehan wrote: > I agree about the quota thing from Matthew's perspective. Disk is > cheap. Backup might not be, but perhaps with the > MyBodWebFolderYourFavNameHere idea of allowing people to have space > on their box, it might be better to invest time in separating the > individual user file space from more traditional rooms? > > We are starting up an elgg (elgg.net) for our user's social needs, > and I suspect that that will fill up far faster than the more stuffy > vle, because people will want to fill it up with interesting stuff, > not their course work. > > BTW, we will be looking at tying that elgg into our groupspace, e.g., > people would be able to find in elgg all the people on their bod > course, in case that is of interest to any others out there. > > Also, Matthew, the stuff on partitioning the groupspace seems > interesting. We are planning on some work to allow for cleaner, more > compliant sub-grouping in bod, that means something outside of bod, > i.e., not everything is called ad-hoc!-) > > Definitely should get heads together on this one. Perhaps the first > of uncle adam's agony chats? > > s > > > On 10 May 2006, at 08:32, Matthew Buckett wrote: > >> Selwyn Lloyd wrote: >> >>> Matthew: >>> have you guys locked down the amount of user accounts or special >>> groups a user might create... >> >> >> At the moment Bodington doesn't support account creation with an >> email address so we create all our accounts through a user import feed. >> >>> assuming you have single log on or admin created users... being >>> intranet so probably easy... so probably yes [shut up sel] >> >> >> The plan is to allow people to create groups through be give them a >> specific part of the group namespace. >> >>> i.e. to stop what i did in the early days of yahoo to get more >>> space [multiple user identities] >>> not so for a lifelong learning portal unless we do some kind of >>> identity creation and identity locking >> >> >> With disk space being so cheap I don't think it is too much of a >> problem. What makes storage much more expensive is good backups and >> management. >> >>> with our ionode based e-portfolio / learner portals [eells, >>> learningmatrix, icebox, pdp4life] we are currently looking at >>> various theoretical quota use cases for lifelong learning scenarios... >>> so this topic is food for thought for us too [currently we set 20mb >>> per user until told otherwise] >> >> >> I much prefer the quota model that a site such as flickr has where >> you have a quota per month rather than an overall quota as this >> doesn't penalise the regular users and in fact encourages it. >> >>> Once projected scenario is when a student leaves they are given a >>> deadline to move their files / electronic stuff so there is room >>> for the next batch of students [bear with me :)] >>> Keeping this to one consideration with multiple theoretical use >>> cases in bodington... >>> "get / set quota expiry date" >>> our special groups/ communities/ users/ would also have >>> 'quotas'... they may like the idea of the group managing a quota, >>> and the user managing their individual quota... >> >> >> 1Tb of RAID 5 array is so cheap now do you need to worry? >> >>> are you suggesting you might quota the files uploaded as a total >>> across multiple resources against a single user? >> >> >> No the exact opposite. No quotas will be against users. All quotas >> will be against parts of the tree and it just depends who manages >> the files at the part of the tree as to who gets to fill the quota. >> >> -- >> -- Matthew Buckett, VLE Developer >> -- Learning Technologies Group, Oxford University Computing Services >> -- Tel: +44 (0)1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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