Re: [Bodington-developers] tetra & IMS TI

[Selwyn L. <sel...@ph...>]

We usually would do things on a price basis, and sometimes claim travel 
expenses, so its not normally a question of rates.

Price work is basically a set amount for a particular work package which 
is agreed up front.

I would suggest that open source outputs are more attractive from 
freelancers / small companies like ours as they can be made available to 
the community.

Also the team get a buzz from working on stuff for the community and 
getting paid, which I guess is the same as being paid to do this kind of 
thing by your college/uni, we also have two legs, two arms, single head 
etc :)


Adam Marshall wrote:

>Bodington would certainly like to be able to include Sakai tools, so yes,
>that does sound interesting. 
>
>Was it your intention to use IMS TI as a framework? 
>
>>From what Selwyn has said in the past, I think commercial developers are
>fine so long as there is some institutional backing. Ie, I don't think
>they'd get too far on their own unless they were sort of 'commissioned' by
>an institution, but if they're a prt of a project proposal then rt=that's
>fine. Its possible that JISC may quibble about their rates but in practise
>this has never happened to us.
>
>adam
>
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington-
>| dev...@li...] On Behalf Of John Norman
>| Sent: 04 May 2006 19:00
>| To: bod...@li...
>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] tetra & IMS TI
>| 
>| OK I got several expressions of interest, so I'll share the model I
>| have in mind. If you have better ideas just say so, I'm not wedded to
>| any of this:
>| 
>| I was thinking a 12 - 18 month project with a series of design
>| workshops of 1 - 3 days during the first 3 - 6 months (say 3
>| workshops) with breaks for reflection and concept testing, followed
>| by 6 months with prototyping of key ideas (maybe 1 or 2 workshops as
>| we go along) and then 6 months of creating a prototype with
>| implementations of key Bodington and Sakai Tools (plus possibly some
>| LAMS).
>| 
>| Does this make sense? If we aimed to fund about half a dozen
>| developers in total (plus some project management) at an average of
>| 0.2 FTE in the first phase, 0.5 FTE in the second phase and then
>| perhaps 3 or 4 at Full Time in the last phase, that would probably go
>| over budget. I'll wait for a reaction to the general idea before
>| sharpening the pencil on costs - you may have imagined something
>| completely different...
>| 
>| John
>| 
>| I'm not aware of a reason why commercial developers cannot be
>| involved, but I haven't scoured the small print yet.
>| 
>| On 4 May 2006, at 17:08, John Norman wrote:
>| 
>| > Would there be any interest in a JISC capital eLearning bid to
>| > collectively work on concepts for Tetra?
>| >
>| > Sakai has a bit more to offer now that the skeleton framework is
>| > available (Sakai Mini) and 2.2 should offer significant code clean-
>| > up to make development easier.
>| >
>| > Cambridge is particularly keen on exchanging Tools in IMS TI with
>| > Bodington sites as well.
>| >
>| > John
>| >
>| > On 4 May 2006, at 15:28, Adam Marshall wrote:
>| >
>| >> IMS Tools Interop. standard is finally out (a couple of months ago
>| >> actually).
>| >>
>| >> I haint looked myself, but we really should investigate as it is
>| >> probably of
>| >> importance to tetra.
>| >>
>| >> It struck me that Brian appears to actually like reading horrendously
>| >> complex techie books so maybe he'd like to do the honours with IMS
>| >> TI!
>| >>
>| >> 	http://www.imsglobal.org/ti/tiv1p0/imsti_guidev1p0.html
>| >>
>| >> By the way, what ever happened to tetra?
>| >>
>| >> adam
>| >>
>| >>
>| >>
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