RE: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones?

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| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li... =
[mailto:bodington-
| dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jon Maber
| Sent: 27 April 2006 18:20
| To: bod...@li...
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones?
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| The use of the zone prefix on the user name ought to be a configurable
| option. Setting the option could be part of the zone management tool. =
I
| would suggest that the default admin zone created at installation time
| would have no prefix as the default setting but that it could be
| switched on by the sysadmin for the additional zones.
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| Explanation of zones....
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| The original use case was the OnLiNM Bodington installation. The brief
| was to create a shared VLE in which each college in the consortium =
could
| create its own user accounts and administrate its own resources. We
| wanted user names to be unique across all the colleges but for =
colleges
| to be able define their own scheme for allocating the user names.
| Consequently the admin zone identifies the organisation which is
| responsible for issuing user names and passwords. The standard user
| management tool enforced a user name prefix to keep one college from
| messing up another college's accounts.  (However, non-standard user
| management tools need not enforce the user name prefix.)
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| A resource can have its zone id set and the other resources inside =
that
| resource inherit the zone id.  The user management tools then operate =
in
| that effective zone. So, the sysadmin can create a building and set =
its
| zone id so that any tools created in that building operate within that
| admin zone. This is how the colleges are forced to stay within their =
own
| admin zone when they create users.
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| The best way to allow collaboration given suitable IT facilities and
| staff would be to give each college its own server and use shibboleth =
to
| allow users to navigate from server to server. Alternatively each
| college could run its own identity management server to allow users to
| log into a single shared VLE.  However, my clients are planning to =
host
| on-line campuses for organisations with very limited IT resources and
| possibly no campus so the admin zone functionality makes sense for =
them.
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| In answer to Paul's question - I would suggest that in your situation =
at
| Oxford you don't really need another zone for external users. You can
| distinguish them by putting them in a different group. You only need =
to
| create a new admin zone if you plan to allow another organisation to
| create log-ins for themselves.
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| Andrew Booth wrote:
| > Some time ago we took the attitude that the zones were a bit of a
| nuisance
| > and we have modified the code to get rid of the enforced username =
prefix
| > when creating users.  That's certainly the case locally, but I don't
| know if
| > it got onto HEAD.
| >
| > I would be very unhappy if zone prefix enforcement comes back.
| >
| > So go ahead and set it up for your client, but I think we need a =
vote
| before
| > anything more about zones goes into HEAD.
| >
| > Aggie
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: bod...@li...
| > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf =
Of
| Adam
| > Marshall
| > Sent: 27 April 2006 16:14
| > To: bod...@li...
| > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones?
| >
| >
| >
| > | -----Original Message-----
| > | From: bod...@li...
| [mailto:bodington-
| > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jon Maber
| > | Sent: 27 April 2006 13:22
| > | To: bod...@li...
| > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones?
| > |
| > | 1)
| > | Probably a question for Alistair so if no one else can help I'll
| repost
| > | next week.
| > |
| > | I have a (potential) client who will be setting up bilingual
| > | English/Spanish teaching resources and whose staff are mostly
| bilingual.
| > | They probably lack technical expertise in things like XML files =
etc.
| but
| > | will be more than capable of translating educational terminology =
etc.
| > | So, is there a idiot's guide to using Alistair's localisation =
features
| > | for Bodington?
| >
| > You may be disappointed at the number of internationalised =
templates!
| >
| > |
| > | 2)
| > | Another requirement of this client is to be able to quickly and =
easily
| > | set up new buildings each with its own administrative zone. At =
present
| > | creating administrative zones is something that involves bringing
| > | Bodington down and running a script of some sort on the database. =
So,
| to
| > | make life easier for my client (and anyone else who wants to host =
a
| > | shared Bodington installation for multiple clients) I'm thinking =
of
| > | adding zone management functionality. Adding a zone would create =
the
| > | zone itself and a set of groups in the same way as the Bodington
| > | installation code but doing it at runtime.
| >
| > See no reason why not from our point of view, although we don't =
really
| use
| > zones.
| >
| > You know we have some code for administrators which I don't think is =
in
| head
| > yet - Matthew has the details - but there's nowt to do with zones.
| >
| > The one thing we didn't get done is a simple form-based 'create one
| user'
| > page; so that would be warmly received!
| >
| > Adam
| >
| > |
| > | So, can I check that people are O.K. with this plan? The idea =
would be
| > | to add a create zone link to the manage page of floors, suites, =
plain
| > | rooms which is visible only with sysadmin access. The create zone
| > | template would simply ask for a zone prefix and zone name and =
would
| then
| > | create the zone and create group structures at the location where =
the
| > | user invoked the functionality.
| > |
| > | Does this seems alright? Is anyone already working on something
| similar?
| > |
| > | Jon
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
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