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Re: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones?
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-04-27 17:20:11
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The use of the zone prefix on the user name ought to be a configurable option. Setting the option could be part of the zone management tool. I would suggest that the default admin zone created at installation time would have no prefix as the default setting but that it could be switched on by the sysadmin for the additional zones. Explanation of zones.... The original use case was the OnLiNM Bodington installation. The brief was to create a shared VLE in which each college in the consortium could create its own user accounts and administrate its own resources. We wanted user names to be unique across all the colleges but for colleges to be able define their own scheme for allocating the user names. Consequently the admin zone identifies the organisation which is responsible for issuing user names and passwords. The standard user management tool enforced a user name prefix to keep one college from messing up another college's accounts. (However, non-standard user management tools need not enforce the user name prefix.) A resource can have its zone id set and the other resources inside that resource inherit the zone id. The user management tools then operate in that effective zone. So, the sysadmin can create a building and set its zone id so that any tools created in that building operate within that admin zone. This is how the colleges are forced to stay within their own admin zone when they create users. The best way to allow collaboration given suitable IT facilities and staff would be to give each college its own server and use shibboleth to allow users to navigate from server to server. Alternatively each college could run its own identity management server to allow users to log into a single shared VLE. However, my clients are planning to host on-line campuses for organisations with very limited IT resources and possibly no campus so the admin zone functionality makes sense for them. In answer to Paul's question - I would suggest that in your situation at Oxford you don't really need another zone for external users. You can distinguish them by putting them in a different group. You only need to create a new admin zone if you plan to allow another organisation to create log-ins for themselves. Andrew Booth wrote: > Some time ago we took the attitude that the zones were a bit of a nuisance > and we have modified the code to get rid of the enforced username prefix > when creating users. That's certainly the case locally, but I don't know if > it got onto HEAD. > > I would be very unhappy if zone prefix enforcement comes back. > > So go ahead and set it up for your client, but I think we need a vote before > anything more about zones goes into HEAD. > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam > Marshall > Sent: 27 April 2006 16:14 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones? > > > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jon Maber > | Sent: 27 April 2006 13:22 > | To: bod...@li... > | Subject: [Bodington-developers] i18n Guide? and Admin Zones? > | > | 1) > | Probably a question for Alistair so if no one else can help I'll repost > | next week. > | > | I have a (potential) client who will be setting up bilingual > | English/Spanish teaching resources and whose staff are mostly bilingual. > | They probably lack technical expertise in things like XML files etc. but > | will be more than capable of translating educational terminology etc. > | So, is there a idiot's guide to using Alistair's localisation features > | for Bodington? > > You may be disappointed at the number of internationalised templates! > > | > | 2) > | Another requirement of this client is to be able to quickly and easily > | set up new buildings each with its own administrative zone. At present > | creating administrative zones is something that involves bringing > | Bodington down and running a script of some sort on the database. So, to > | make life easier for my client (and anyone else who wants to host a > | shared Bodington installation for multiple clients) I'm thinking of > | adding zone management functionality. Adding a zone would create the > | zone itself and a set of groups in the same way as the Bodington > | installation code but doing it at runtime. > > See no reason why not from our point of view, although we don't really use > zones. > > You know we have some code for administrators which I don't think is in head > yet - Matthew has the details - but there's nowt to do with zones. > > The one thing we didn't get done is a simple form-based 'create one user' > page; so that would be warmly received! > > Adam > > | > | So, can I check that people are O.K. with this plan? The idea would be > | to add a create zone link to the manage page of floors, suites, plain > | rooms which is visible only with sysadmin access. The create zone > | template would simply ask for a zone prefix and zone name and would then > | create the zone and create group structures at the location where the > | user invoked the functionality. > | > | Does this seems alright? Is anyone already working on something similar? > | > | Jon > | > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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