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Re: [Bodington-developers] Aaarggh!
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-04-07 21:36:59
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Excerpt from http://www.lexilogos.com/etymologie_oil_oc.htm Okay, c'est le pays de Mickey! Et la langue d'ok sera aussi la langue de=20 la toile, si nous refusons de r=E9sister =E0 l'uniformisation du monde! Quelle est l'origine de ce O.K.? on l'ignore! Ok a le sens=20 de all right. Ces deux lettres sont certainement les initiales=20 (phon=E9tiques) de all correct!... Il existe d'autres hypoth=E8ses, cependant peu cr=E9dibles. P= ar=20 exemple, l'origine militaire: ok voudrait dire zero killed! z=E9ro mort!=20 le chiffre 0 peut =EAtre prononc=E9 comme la lettre O. Si l'origine ne peut =EAtre certifi=E9e, ce qui est certain,=20 c'est que cette expression est n=E9e aux Etats-Unis, au XIXe si=E8cle! Et si vous =EAtes l'auteur d'un site sur la toile, r=E9sistez = =E0=20 l'uniformisation du monde! Evitez ces boutons [ok!] que l'on trouve sur=20 de nombreux sites et pr=E9f=E9rez-lui celui de [oc!]. Non seulement c'est= =20 plus sympa, mais c'est surtout moins ringard! Apprenons =E0 dire oc dans=20 la lenga de l'amor plut=F4t que ok dans la langue du caca-cola... qui=20 donne le hoquet! La langue d'oc, c'est la langue de l'amour courtois ; la=20 langue d'ok, c'est la langue du sexe Sean Mehan wrote: > ahem. > > http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_250 > > s > > On 7 Apr 2006, at 21:30, Andrew Booth wrote: > >> Notwithstanding that explanation, one wonders why Bodington is the on= ly >> application using 'O.K.'. This might have something to do with the =20 >> fact >> that most authorities regard the origin of OK (note the lack of full=20 >> stops) >> in the word 'oc' as in langue d'oc, meaning 'yes' or 'agreed' in the=20 >> Occitan >> dialect of southern France. This was taken to the new world by the =20 >> settlers >> of Arcadia in Canada. After supporting the American revolution, they >> migrated to Louisiana, becoming the 'Cajuns'. There they used 'Oke'=20 >> and its >> past participle 'Okay' which was taken up and popularised by the =20 >> campaigns >> of various politicians. >> >> Irrespective of its origin, 'O dot K dot' looks odd and =20 >> idiosyncratic. It is >> unnecessary, since it can be replaced with words such as =20 >> 'successfully' or >> 'satisfactorily'. There are several other misspellings which I'm =20 >> trying to >> eradicate from Bodington at a time when we are trying to present the=20 >> system >> as a serious product written by literate professionals. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf =20 >> Of Jon >> Maber >> Sent: 07 April 2006 19:55 >> To: bod...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Aaarggh! >> >> Them's fightin' words! >> >> O.K. is an abbreviation of 'oll korrect', deriving from a fashion for >> silly abbreviations arising in Boston and New York in 1838 and 1839 a= nd >> including things like K.G. for (k)no(w) go which didn't catch on quite >> as well. >> >> Use as an indication of approval started in 1841from 'Old Kinderhook'= a >> nickname for Martin van Buren and adopted by his supporters in the >> 'O.K.[sic] Club', a Democratic club in New York. Kinderhook was the >> native town of van Buren. In effect O.K. became a non-religious synon= ym >> for amen. >> >> True acronyms such as SUN (the computer manufacturer) which are >> pronounced as if they are words are best presented without full stops >> because as words they are no longer abbreviations. However =20 >> abbreviations >> like I.B.M. (not an acronym unless you pronounce it ibum) ought to be >> written with full stops because they are are pronounced using the nam= es >> of the letters. This is in effect the purpose of the full stop: it >> indicates that the preceding letter is to be pronounced using the name >> of the letter. S.U.N is pronounced ess-yoo-en but SUN is pronounced =20 >> sun. >> Of course graphic designers don't like to put punctuation into logos=20 >> and >> then people copy that practice in plain text. OK implies a single >> syllable pronunciation like ock whereas the original spelling of the >> word was okey, later changed to okay. >> >> I wonder how long we can keep this thread going? >> >> References >> Read, Walker American Speech 38:1,2(1963) & 39:1,2,4(1964) >> >> >> Andrew Booth wrote: >> >>> Eats, shoots - and leaves. >>> >>> BTW I've removed every occurrence of 'O.K.' from Bodington HEAD and >>> corrected all instances of 'occured'. >>> >>> Aggie >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: bod...@li... >>> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf=20 >>> Of Sean >>> Mehan >>> Sent: 07 April 2006 16:37 >>> To: bod...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Aaarggh! >>> >>> my pet beefs: >>> >>> >>> 1) people who are always uncertain what to do about clauses of all >>> sorts - such that they always stick in hyphens - when they are =20 >>> writing. >>> We all know that hyphens are signs of intelligence - intelligence >>> being evidenced by your writing skills. >>> >>> 2) Incorrect use of abbreviations http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/ >>> sm00sm/?p=3D110 >>> >>> >>> On 7 Apr 2006, at 16:25, Alistair Young wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> and the damn apostrophe as the plural - gaaaaaaargh! >>>> >>>> On 7 Apr 2006, at 16:04, Peter Crowther wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> From: Andrew Booth >>>>>> Have a look at one of the best books ever written - its >>>>>> author was very >>>>>> clear about the need for its creation as it's sorely needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Ah, but that's only too variations, and there are to many =20 >>>>> versions of >>>>> to/too/two two count... >>>>> >>>>> - Peter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting >>>>> language >>>>> that extends applications into web and mobile media. 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