Re: [Bodington-developers] Aaarggh!

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

ahem.

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On 7 Apr 2006, at 21:30, Andrew Booth wrote:

> Notwithstanding that explanation, one wonders why Bodington is the =20
> only
> application using 'O.K.'.  This might have something to do with the =20=

> fact
> that most authorities regard the origin of OK (note the lack of =20
> full stops)
> in the word 'oc' as in langue d'oc, meaning 'yes' or 'agreed' in =20
> the Occitan
> dialect of southern France. This was taken to the new world by the =20
> settlers
> of Arcadia in Canada. After supporting the American revolution, they
> migrated to Louisiana, becoming the 'Cajuns'.  There they used =20
> 'Oke' and its
> past participle 'Okay' which was taken up and popularised by the =20
> campaigns
> of various politicians.
>
> Irrespective of its origin, 'O dot K dot' looks odd and =20
> idiosyncratic. It is
> unnecessary, since it can be replaced with words such as =20
> 'successfully' or
> 'satisfactorily'. There are several other misspellings which I'm =20
> trying to
> eradicate from Bodington at a time when we are trying to present =20
> the system
> as a serious product written by literate professionals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bod...@li...
> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf =20=

> Of Jon
> Maber
> Sent: 07 April 2006 19:55
> To: bod...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Aaarggh!
>
> Them's fightin' words!
>
> O.K. is an abbreviation of 'oll korrect', deriving from a fashion for
> silly abbreviations arising in Boston and New York in 1838 and 1839 =20=

> and
> including things like K.G. for (k)no(w) go which didn't catch on quite
> as well.
>
> Use as an indication of approval started in 1841from 'Old =20
> Kinderhook' a
> nickname for Martin van Buren and adopted by his supporters in the
> 'O.K.[sic] Club', a Democratic club in New York. Kinderhook was the
> native town of van Buren. In effect O.K. became a non-religious =20
> synonym
> for amen.
>
> True acronyms such as SUN (the computer manufacturer) which are
> pronounced as if they are words are best presented without full stops
> because as words they are no longer abbreviations. However =20
> abbreviations
> like I.B.M. (not an acronym unless you pronounce it ibum) ought to be
> written with full stops because they are are pronounced using the =20
> names
> of the letters. This is in effect the purpose of the full stop: it
> indicates that the preceding letter is to be pronounced using the name
> of the letter. S.U.N is pronounced ess-yoo-en but SUN is pronounced =20=

> sun.
> Of course graphic designers don't like to put punctuation into =20
> logos and
> then people copy that practice in plain text. OK implies a single
> syllable pronunciation like ock whereas the original spelling of the
> word was okey, later changed to okay.
>
> I wonder how long we can keep this thread going?
>
> References
> Read, Walker  American Speech 38:1,2(1963) & 39:1,2,4(1964)
>
>
> Andrew Booth wrote:
>
>> Eats, shoots - and leaves.
>>
>> BTW I've removed every occurrence of 'O.K.' from Bodington HEAD and
>> corrected all instances of 'occured'.
>>
>> Aggie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bod...@li...
>> [mailto:bod...@li...] On =20
>> Behalf Of Sean
>> Mehan
>> Sent: 07 April 2006 16:37
>> To: bod...@li...
>> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Aaarggh!
>>
>> my pet beefs:
>>
>>
>> 1) people who are always uncertain what to do about clauses of all
>> sorts - such that they always stick in hyphens - when they are =20
>> writing.
>> We all know that hyphens are signs of intelligence - intelligence
>> being evidenced by your writing skills.
>>
>> 2) Incorrect use of abbreviations http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/
>> sm00sm/?p=3D110
>>
>>
>> On 7 Apr 2006, at 16:25, Alistair Young wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> and the damn apostrophe as the plural - gaaaaaaargh!
>>>
>>> On 7 Apr 2006, at 16:04, Peter Crowther wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> From: Andrew Booth
>>>>> Have a look at one of the best books ever written - its
>>>>> author was very
>>>>> clear about the need for its creation as it's sorely needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ah, but that's only too variations, and there are to many =20
>>>> versions of
>>>> to/too/two two count...
>>>>
>>>> 		- Peter
>>>>
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