Re: [Bodington-developers] Plugin interface

[Colin T. <col...@ou...>]

Sean Mehan wrote:
> However, alistair is trying to get a method to work to start coupling in
> stuff to bod now. This would lead to mods that Ox and Aggie said they
> would be interested in at least in principle.

I know you're going to think that I'm just being difficult :-) but what 
are you saying?
We agreed to My Modules or the 'plugin' stuff in principle?

> Therefore, we need to reach a decision:
> 
> 1) Agree a method for code to go in supporting functionality that can go
> into HEAD;

What's that? Did we come to a conclusion?

> 2) Agree that this will be a UHI only mod.

Meaning it won't go into HEAD?

Colin

> <quote who="Alistair Young">
> 
>>>so you can call getNamedDispatcher( "myModules" ).include( request,
>>>response )
>>
>>but that's where we differ Jon. JSPs are designed to insulate page
>>developers from code like that. That's what taglibs are for. That's
>>why I suggested a new tag. That's why I don't want to go down the
>>servlet route. No-one else does these days to get the type of
>>functionality we want.
>>
>>In light of what Matthew's being working on, it'll be best to wait
>>and see what we can use of that to give us the functionality we need.
>>
>>Alistair
>>
>>
>>On 23 Mar 2006, at 14:57, Jon Maber wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Alistair Young wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>You won't be going near Facility.
>>>>
>>>>I know Jon but I'll be going somewhere I don't want to go - half
>>>>hidden servlets - that's not what servlets are designed for.
>>>
>>>It is one of the things that servlets were designed for see the
>>>method;
>>>
>>>
>>>   ServletContext.getNamedDispatcher(String name)
>>>
>>>(http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/api/javax/servlet/
>>>ServletContext.html)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I think it can be done without adding any new tag types to the
>>>>>template DTD
>>>>
>>>>and I think it can ... just different ways of looking at the
>>>>problem.  My view is influenced by JSPs/taglibs,your's by bod
>>>>internals.
>>>
>>>No, I'm not thinking of Bod at all - 'including' is a standard
>>>thing that servlets do.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>out.print( "<P>here's another 400 paragraphs of HTML</P>" );
>>>>
>>>>that's how bod works though!
>>>
>>>It's not how bod templates work.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't think I'm getting anywhere now although it's been an
>>>>interesting ride getting there.
>>>
>>>Just trying to help! I'm not going to say go ahead with your plugin
>>>tag (which I don't personally object to) because I'm not going to
>>>be affected by the consequences - that's down to the other
>>>developers to comment.  I'm just suggesting a method they can't
>>>easily object to because it doesn't involve more that a line or two
>>>of changes to the Bodington source code - to make the
>>>ServletContext available to the template so you can call
>>>getNamedDispatcher( "myModules" ).include( request, response ).  I
>>>don't think that's a bodge or a workaround - it's basically the
>>>same as what you're proposing but compliant with the servlet spec -
>>>i.e. you could use it perfectly well outside of Bodington.
>>>
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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