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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

> From: Antony Corfield
> Can you remind us (more specifically a cake-eating weegie) what the=20
> policy is for java versions (1.4/1.5). My understanding is=20
> that we keep=20
> backwards compatibility for java 1.4. i.e. should compile and=20
> run with java 1.4

That's also my understanding of the policy.  However, given the apparent
alignment of Bodington and Sakai and the apparent stability of Java 1.5,
would it make sense to align the policy with Sakai and head towards 1.5
relatively soon?

		- Peter

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

> From: Alistair Young
> "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington=20
> you must use Java 1.5".

For myself, I think this is acceptable.  The number of practical
Bodington platforms remaining without 1.5 support is small, and the JDK
upgrade effort is probably lost in the noise during a Bodington upgrade.
So that's a +1 from me, assuming I still have a vote!

> 1.5++ for me. Anyone counting the votes?

Alistair: +1
Sean: +2 (how come he never uses +1 or -1?)
Peter: +1

Present total: +4 on a small sample.

		- Peter

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Adam M. <ada...@ou...>]

I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring). Think of the benefits of using
generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types here we come.

I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though

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| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li...
| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
| Peter Crowther
| Sent: 17 January 2007 10:59
| To: Bodington developers
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5
| 
| > From: Alistair Young
| > "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington
| > you must use Java 1.5".
| 
| For myself, I think this is acceptable.  The number of practical
| Bodington platforms remaining without 1.5 support is small, and the JDK
| upgrade effort is probably lost in the noise during a Bodington upgrade.
| So that's a +1 from me, assuming I still have a vote!
| 
| > 1.5++ for me. Anyone counting the votes?
| 
| Alistair: +1
| Sean: +2 (how come he never uses +1 or -1?)
| Peter: +1
| 
| Present total: +4 on a small sample.
| 
| 		- Peter
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

> From: Adam Marshall
> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring).

And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3.

> Think of the benefits of using
> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types=20
> here we come.

... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - not a
small job.

> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though

Definitely.

		- Peter

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Andrew B. <a.g...@le...>]

I'd be in favour of move to 1.5.

++2

Aggie

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Peter Crowther
Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14
To: Bodington developers
Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

> From: Adam Marshall
> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring).

And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3.

> Think of the benefits of using
> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types=20
> here we come.

... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - not a
small job.

> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though

Definitely.

		- Peter

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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...>]

is someone going to parchmentise the decision to move to 1.5 and bung it
on the website?

--=20
mov eax,1
mov ebx,0
int 80h

> I'd be in favour of move to 1.5.
>
> ++2
>
> Aggie
>
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> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf O=
f
> Peter Crowther
> Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14
> To: Bodington developers
> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5
>
>> From: Adam Marshall
>> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring).
>
> And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3.
>
>> Think of the benefits of using
>> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types
>> here we come.
>
> ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course - not a
> small job.
>
>> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though
>
> Definitely.
>
> 		- Peter
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

voting ain't done...yet.

wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-)


On 17 Jan 2007, at 14:24, Alistair Young wrote:

> is someone going to parchmentise the decision to move to 1.5 and  
> bung it
> on the website?
>
> -- 
> mov eax,1
> mov ebx,0
> int 80h
>
>> I'd be in favour of move to 1.5.
>>
>> ++2
>>
>> Aggie
>>
>> ____________________________________________
>> Andrew G Booth
>> Professor of Online Learning
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>>
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>> From: bod...@li...
>> [mailto:bod...@li...] On  
>> Behalf Of
>> Peter Crowther
>> Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14
>> To: Bodington developers
>> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5
>>
>>> From: Adam Marshall
>>> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring).
>>
>> And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3.
>>
>>> Think of the benefits of using
>>> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types
>>> here we come.
>>
>> ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course -  
>> not a
>> small job.
>>
>>> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though
>>
>> Definitely.
>>
>> 		- Peter
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...>]

Yep, I'm cool with that +2.

(Hmmm... who's the robot!?!).

Alexis

Sean Mehan wrote:
> voting ain't done...yet.
>
> wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-)
>
>
> On 17 Jan 2007, at 14:24, Alistair Young wrote:
>
>   
>> is someone going to parchmentise the decision to move to 1.5 and  
>> bung it
>> on the website?
>>
>> -- 
>> mov eax,1
>> mov ebx,0
>> int 80h
>>
>>     
>>> I'd be in favour of move to 1.5.
>>>
>>> ++2
>>>
>>> Aggie
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________
>>> Andrew G Booth
>>> Professor of Online Learning
>>> Institute of Life Sciences Education
>>> Faculty of Biological Sciences
>>> Garstang Building
>>> University of Leeds
>>> Leeds LS2 9JT
>>> U.K.
>>> Tel: +44-113-343-3142
>>> ____________________________________________
>>>
>>> No Education Patents
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bod...@li...
>>> [mailto:bod...@li...] On  
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Peter Crowther
>>> Sent: 17 January 2007 11:14
>>> To: Bodington developers
>>> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5
>>>
>>>       
>>>> From: Adam Marshall
>>>> I'll weigh in with a +1.66666 (recurring).
>>>>         
>>> And being a Rationalist, I'll therefore update our score to +17/3.
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Think of the benefits of using
>>>> generics - no more ClassCastException woes! Enumerated types
>>>> here we come.
>>>>         
>>> ... once you actually refactor the existing codebase, of course -  
>>> not a
>>> small job.
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I guess we should wait for Aggie & Leeds to comment though
>>>>         
>>> Definitely.
>>>
>>> 		- Peter
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

Now, now, Peter, you should know that gender of nouns auf Deutsch has  
nothing to do with perceived masculinity/femininity!

Das Fenster! I ask you, what isn't transparent about a window, and  
what isn't transparent about a woman!-)



s



On 18 Jan 2007, at 08:10, Peter Crowther wrote:

>> From: Sean Mehan
>> voting ain't done...yet.
>> wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-)
>
> From Matthew's email of yesterday 09:40: "I'm all for moving to  
> build and deploying against 1.5."  He* hasn't yet turned that into  
> a vote, but the intention appears clear.
>
> Alexis has responded since you sent this.  The Robot, whoever he/ 
> she/it is, can speak for $(pronoun)self.
>
> - Peter (via webmail, sorry about the formatting)
>
> * 'die buckett und die Boer'?  I didn't know they'd both had sex  
> changes...
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Adam M. <ada...@ou...>]

A bit of a rethink form Oxford .........

 

Upon reflection, we need to square the proposed change with our systems team
- they will have to replace the current java implementation with v1.5 and
they have great constraints on their time at the moment. 

 

So ignore all our votes and let me enquire and get back to the list.

 

Adam 

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From: bod...@li...
[mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
Peter Crowther
Sent: 18 January 2007 08:11
To: Bodington developers
Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

 

> From: Sean Mehan 
> voting ain't done...yet.
> wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-) 

>From Matthew's email of yesterday 09:40: "I'm all for moving to build and
deploying against 1.5."  He* hasn't yet turned that into a vote, but the
intention appears clear.

Alexis has responded since you sent this.  The Robot, whoever he/she/it is,
can speak for $(pronoun)self.

- Peter (via webmail, sorry about the formatting)

* 'die buckett und die Boer'?  I didn't know they'd both had sex changes...

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

ahh, wunderbar!

schiBer!


On 18 Jan 2007, at 10:23, Adam Marshall wrote:

> A bit of a rethink form Oxford .........
>
>
>
> Upon reflection, we need to square the proposed change with our  
> systems team
> - they will have to replace the current java implementation with  
> v1.5 and
> they have great constraints on their time at the moment.
>
>
>
> So ignore all our votes and let me enquire and get back to the list.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
> --
> Adam Marshall - OUCS
>
> E-learning Conferences. Book online
> Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd  -
> http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/
> Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd -
> http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/
>
>   _____
>
> From: bod...@li...
> [mailto:bod...@li...] On  
> Behalf Of
> Peter Crowther
> Sent: 18 January 2007 08:11
> To: Bodington developers
> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5
>
>
>
>> From: Sean Mehan
>> voting ain't done...yet.
>> wo ist die buckett? und die Boer? Und das robot?-)
>
>> From Matthew's email of yesterday 09:40: "I'm all for moving to  
>> build and
> deploying against 1.5."  He* hasn't yet turned that into a vote,  
> but the
> intention appears clear.
>
> Alexis has responded since you sent this.  The Robot, whoever he/ 
> she/it is,
> can speak for $(pronoun)self.
>
> - Peter (via webmail, sorry about the formatting)
>
> * 'die buckett und die Boer'?  I didn't know they'd both had sex  
> changes...
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Peter C. <Pet...@me...>]

> From: Sean Mehan
> Now, now, Peter, you should know that gender of nouns auf=20
> Deutsch has =20
> nothing to do with perceived masculinity/femininity!

German was the only exam in which I got less than an 'A' at school*, so
arguably I *shouldn't* know that!

> Das Fenster! I ask you, what isn't transparent about a window, and =20
> what isn't transparent about a woman!-)

I'm assuming that was rhetorical.  Certainly I wouldn't dare to answer
on an archived mailing list :-).

		- Peter

* 'B'.  Oh well.

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Alexis O'C. <ale...@ou...>]

Peter Crowther wrote:
>> From: Antony Corfield
>> Can you remind us (more specifically a cake-eating weegie) what the 
>> policy is for java versions (1.4/1.5). My understanding is 
>> that we keep 
>> backwards compatibility for java 1.4. i.e. should compile and 
>> run with java 1.4
>>     
>
> That's also my understanding of the policy.  However, given the apparent
> alignment of Bodington and Sakai and the apparent stability of Java 1.5,
> would it make sense to align the policy with Sakai and head towards 1.5
> relatively soon?
>
> 		- Peter
>
>   

Hmmm... not entirely a stupid idea. Bearing in mind that JDK 1.6 went 
final several months ago, that would mean we were only *1* major version 
behind ;-).

Alexis

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Matthew B. <mat...@ou...>]

Peter Crowther wrote:
>> From: Antony Corfield
>> Can you remind us (more specifically a cake-eating weegie) what the 
>> policy is for java versions (1.4/1.5). My understanding is 
>> that we keep 
>> backwards compatibility for java 1.4. i.e. should compile and 
>> run with java 1.4
> 
> That's also my understanding of the policy.  However, given the apparent
> alignment of Bodington and Sakai and the apparent stability of Java 1.5,
> would it make sense to align the policy with Sakai and head towards 1.5
> relatively soon?

I'm all for moving to build and deploying against 1.5.

Reasons not to move:
- Obscure platforms with only 1.4.
- Developers without much 1.5 experience, although this would be an 
opportunity to develop (I'm in this camp).

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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...>]

My learned leek loving colleague is referring to uhi specific add-ons to
clan that were written using 1.5 constructs. So he couldn't compile them
;)

Bod compiles just fine under 1.5. I think the debate is about using 1.5
constructs. If we do that then there's no going back, 1.4 will not be
supported.

Major applications such as the Wildfire jabber server do not support 1.4
any more.

Sakai 2.4 will not support 1.4.

Should the next release of Bodington move in a similar direction?

Alistair


--=20
mov eax,1
mov ebx,0
int 80h

> Peter Crowther wrote:
>>> From: Antony Corfield
>>> Can you remind us (more specifically a cake-eating weegie) what the
>>> policy is for java versions (1.4/1.5). My understanding is
>>> that we keep
>>> backwards compatibility for java 1.4. i.e. should compile and
>>> run with java 1.4
>>
>> That's also my understanding of the policy.  However, given the appare=
nt
>> alignment of Bodington and Sakai and the apparent stability of Java 1.=
5,
>> would it make sense to align the policy with Sakai and head towards 1.=
5
>> relatively soon?
>
> I'm all for moving to build and deploying against 1.5.
>
> Reasons not to move:
> - Obscure platforms with only 1.4.
> - Developers without much 1.5 experience, although this would be an
> opportunity to develop (I'm in this camp).
>
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Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

++2 on going to 1.5. As people say, 1.6 is finalizing. We are moving  
into a different rationale, and our "users/deployers" are already  
being herded for us. Perhaps we should get back into the sheparding  
position rather than idling by!_)



s.

On 17 Jan 2007, at 10:19, Alistair Young wrote:

>
> Should the next release of Bodington move in a similar direction?

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Adam M. <ada...@ou...>]

Unless there is a very good reason not to, 1.5 should be platform of choice.

adam

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From: bod...@li...
[mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
Sean Mehan
Sent: 17 January 2007 10:31
To: ali...@sm...; Bodington developers
Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

 

++2 on going to 1.5. As people say, 1.6 is finalizing. We are moving into a
different rationale, and our "users/deployers" are already being herded for
us. Perhaps we should get back into the sheparding position rather than
idling by!_)

 

 

 

s.

 

On 17 Jan 2007, at 10:19, Alistair Young wrote:





 

Should the next release of Bodington move in a similar direction?

 

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...>]

It's a big decision Adam. Is bodington.org going to let us loose on
Bodington with Java 1.5 constructs? That's different from saying

"we recommend running on Tomcat 5.5.x, which requires Java 1.5 or a compa=
t
package if you run it on 1.4".

By letting us motley crew loose with the likes of:

for (String gaff : gaffs) {
}

bodington.org would be saying

"Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington you must use
Java 1.5".

1.5++ for me. Anyone counting the votes?

Alistair


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> Unless there is a very good reason not to, 1.5 should be platform of
> choice.
>
> adam
>
> --
>
> Adam Marshall - OUCS
>
> E-learning Conferences. Book online
> Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd  -
> http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/
> Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd -
> http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/
>
>   _____
>
> From: bod...@li...
> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf O=
f
> Sean Mehan
> Sent: 17 January 2007 10:31
> To: ali...@sm...; Bodington developers
> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5
>
>
>
> ++2 on going to 1.5. As people say, 1.6 is finalizing. We are moving in=
to
> a
> different rationale, and our "users/deployers" are already being herded
> for
> us. Perhaps we should get back into the sheparding position rather than
> idling by!_)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> s.
>
>
>
> On 17 Jan 2007, at 10:19, Alistair Young wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Should the next release of Bodington move in a similar direction?
>
>
>
>

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

well, al, we're up to 4 already. 1 more and your at your limit!-)


On 17 Jan 2007, at 10:52, Alistair Young wrote:

> It's a big decision Adam. Is bodington.org going to let us loose on
> Bodington with Java 1.5 constructs? That's different from saying
>
>
> 1.5++ for me. Anyone counting the votes?
>
> Alistair
>
>
> -- 

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Matthew B. <mat...@ou...>]

Alistair Young wrote:

> bodington.org would be saying
> 
> "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington you must use
> Java 1.5".

Is anyone still running their Bodington installation on 1.4 (we are)?

-- 
 Matthew Buckett

Re: [Bodington-developers] Java 1.5

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

<continuing with the german theme...i'm stuck, can't get out....>


Vee are running unter java Eins Funf! Und wir sind alle gl=FCcklich!

tarragan2:/WWW/www.clan.uhi.ac.uk/files # java -version
java version "1.5.0_02"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-b09)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_02-b09, mixed mode)



s.



On 18 Jan 2007, at 09:23, Matthew Buckett wrote:

> Alistair Young wrote:
>
>> bodington.org would be saying
>>
>> "Bodington does no longer run on Java 1.4. To use Bodington you =20
>> must use
>> Java 1.5".
>
> Is anyone still running their Bodington installation on 1.4 (we are)?
>
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> <matthew.buckett.vcf>
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