Thread: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?

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I have meeting notes for 

10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006

Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.

adam

stick them in, go on....

s

<quote who=3D"Adam Marshall">
> I have meeting notes for
>
> 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
>
> Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
>
> adam
>
>
>
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Sean Mehan
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UHI

Adam Marshall wrote:
> I have meeting notes for 
> 
> 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
> 
> Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.

I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes difficult to relate to the topics 
discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and extracting only the relevant 
stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content in a dev wiki, I'm a fan of 
less is more...)

Colin

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I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer
back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!

adam

| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li...
| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
| Colin Tatham
| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
| To: Bodington developers
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
| 
| Adam Marshall wrote:
| > I have meeting notes for
| >
| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
| >
| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
| 
| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes difficult
| to relate to the topics
| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
| extracting only the relevant
| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content in
| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
| less is more...)
| 
| 
| Colin
| 
| --
| ____________________________________
| Colin Tatham
| VLE Team
| Oxford University Computing Services
| 
| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
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| 
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Adam Marshall wrote:
> I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
> vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer
> back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!

OK. (I didn't say don't do it at all, I was saying they need some digesting if we want the content 
to be at all useful).

It also implies that we're going to continue doing it -- there are examples in WebLearn where 
someone decided to put something up, but they don't maintain it, so after a short while it starts 
looking worse than if there'd never been anything there at all! (Just trying to suggest we 
concentrate our efforts on the most worthwhile stuff).

I think having meeting notes on the Wiki is a good idea, personally I don't think those old ones are 
worth adding...

Colin

> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li...
> | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
> | Colin Tatham
> | Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
> | To: Bodington developers
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
> | 
> | Adam Marshall wrote:
> | > I have meeting notes for
> | >
> | > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
> | >
> | > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
> | 
> | I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes difficult
> | to relate to the topics
> | discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
> | extracting only the relevant
> | stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content in
> | a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
> | less is more...)
> | 
> | 
> | Colin
> | 
> | --
> | ____________________________________
> | Colin Tatham
> | VLE Team
> | Oxford University Computing Services
> | 
> | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
> | http://bodington.org
> | 
> | 
> | _______________________________________________
> | Bodington-developers mailing list
> | Bod...@li...
> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Bod...@li...
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> 

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http://bodington.org

ahh, come on. no one will read it anyway!-)

s

<quote who=3D"Colin Tatham">
> Adam Marshall wrote:
>> I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
>> vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to ref=
er
>> back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!
>
> OK. (I didn't say don't do it at all, I was saying they need some
> digesting if we want the content
> to be at all useful).
>
> It also implies that we're going to continue doing it -- there are
> examples in WebLearn where
> someone decided to put something up, but they don't maintain it, so aft=
er
> a short while it starts
> looking worse than if there'd never been anything there at all! (Just
> trying to suggest we
> concentrate our efforts on the most worthwhile stuff).
>
> I think having meeting notes on the Wiki is a good idea, personally I
> don't think those old ones are
> worth adding...
>
> Colin
>
>
>> | -----Original Message-----
>> | From: bod...@li...
>> | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behal=
f
>> Of
>> | Colin Tatham
>> | Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
>> | To: Bodington developers
>> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
>> |
>> | Adam Marshall wrote:
>> | > I have meeting notes for
>> | >
>> | > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
>> | >
>> | > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
>> |
>> | I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes
>> difficult
>> | to relate to the topics
>> | discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
>> | extracting only the relevant
>> | stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of conte=
nt
>> in
>> | a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
>> | less is more...)
>> |
>> |
>> | Colin
>> |
>> | --
>> | ____________________________________
>> | Colin Tatham
>> | VLE Team
>> | Oxford University Computing Services
>> |
>> | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
>> | http://bodington.org
>> |
>> |
>> | _______________________________________________
>> | Bodington-developers mailing list
>> | Bod...@li...
>> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bodington-developers mailing list
>> Bod...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ____________________________________
> Colin Tatham
> VLE Team
> Oxford University Computing Services
>
> http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
> http://bodington.org
>
>
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Sean Mehan
Head of e-Frameworks
Learning and Information Services
UHI

+1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as
they go. Being out, no one but adam (HA!-) can edit them.

nature abhors a vaccum.

Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text
in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or do
they still need accounts?-)

s

<quote who=3D"Adam Marshall">
> I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
> vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refe=
r
> back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!
>
> adam
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li...
> | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf=
 Of
> | Colin Tatham
> | Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
> | To: Bodington developers
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
> |
> | Adam Marshall wrote:
> | > I have meeting notes for
> | >
> | > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
> | >
> | > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
> |
> | I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes
> difficult
> | to relate to the topics
> | discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
> | extracting only the relevant
> | stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of conten=
t
> in
> | a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
> | less is more...)
> |
> |
> | Colin
> |
> | --
> | ____________________________________
> | Colin Tatham
> | VLE Team
> | Oxford University Computing Services
> |
> | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
> | http://bodington.org
> |
> |
> | _______________________________________________
> | Bodington-developers mailing list
> | Bod...@li...
> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Bod...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>

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Sean Mehan
Head of e-Frameworks
Learning and Information Services
UHI

Sean Mehan wrote:
> +1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as
> they go.

... or (more likely) we all ignore them. (I'm talking about the old notes written by Jane)

> Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text
> in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or do
> they still need accounts?-)

There's a list of all users at:

http://bodington.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Listusers

> <quote who="Adam Marshall">
> 
>>I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
>>vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer
>>back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!
>>
>>adam
>>
>>| -----Original Message-----
>>| From: bod...@li...
>>| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
>>| Colin Tatham
>>| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
>>| To: Bodington developers
>>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
>>|
>>| Adam Marshall wrote:
>>| > I have meeting notes for
>>| >
>>| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
>>| >
>>| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
>>|
>>| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes
>>difficult
>>| to relate to the topics
>>| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
>>| extracting only the relevant
>>| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content
>>in
>>| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
>>| less is more...)
>>|
>>|
>>| Colin
>>|
>>| --
>>| ____________________________________
>>| Colin Tatham
>>| VLE Team
>>| Oxford University Computing Services
>>|
>>| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
>>| http://bodington.org
>>|
>>|
>>| _______________________________________________
>>| Bodington-developers mailing list
>>| Bod...@li...
>>| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Bodington-developers mailing list
>>Bod...@li...
>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
>>
> 
> 
> 

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____________________________________
Colin Tatham
VLE Team
Oxford University Computing Services

http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
http://bodington.org

Done now. 

And links to blogs added - remove if you are unhappy. Add if you know of
more (John Smith? Etc)

adam

| -----Original Message-----
| From: bod...@li...
| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
| Colin Tatham
| Sent: 08 June 2006 13:37
| To: Bodington developers
| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
| 
| Sean Mehan wrote:
| > +1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as
| > they go.
| 
| ... or (more likely) we all ignore them. (I'm talking about the old notes
| written by Jane)
| 
| 
| > Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text
| > in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or
| do
| > they still need accounts?-)
| 
| There's a list of all users at:
| 
| http://bodington.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Listusers
| 
| 
| 
| > <quote who="Adam Marshall">
| >
| >>I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
| >>vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer
| >>back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!
| >>
| >>adam
| >>
| >>| -----Original Message-----
| >>| From: bod...@li...
| >>| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf
| Of
| >>| Colin Tatham
| >>| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
| >>| To: Bodington developers
| >>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
| >>|
| >>| Adam Marshall wrote:
| >>| > I have meeting notes for
| >>| >
| >>| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
| >>| >
| >>| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
| >>|
| >>| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes
| >>difficult
| >>| to relate to the topics
| >>| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
| >>| extracting only the relevant
| >>| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content
| >>in
| >>| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
| >>| less is more...)
| >>|
| >>|
| >>| Colin
| >>|
| >>| --
| >>| ____________________________________
| >>| Colin Tatham
| >>| VLE Team
| >>| Oxford University Computing Services
| >>|
| >>| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
| >>| http://bodington.org
| >>|
| >>|
| >>| _______________________________________________
| >>| Bodington-developers mailing list
| >>| Bod...@li...
| >>| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>_______________________________________________
| >>Bodington-developers mailing list
| >>Bod...@li...
| >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
| >>
| >
| >
| >
| 
| 
| --
| ____________________________________
| Colin Tatham
| VLE Team
| Oxford University Computing Services
| 
| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
| http://bodington.org
| 
| 
| _______________________________________________
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Adam Marshall wrote:
> Done now. 

Must admit, looks good. :-)

I'll hide some obscenities in the notes, and see if anyone ever finds them!

> And links to blogs added - remove if you are unhappy. Add if you know of
> more (John Smith? Etc)
> 
> adam
> 
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: bod...@li...
> | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of
> | Colin Tatham
> | Sent: 08 June 2006 13:37
> | To: Bodington developers
> | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
> | 
> | Sean Mehan wrote:
> | > +1 on the notes in. Being in, someone who is motivated can edit them as
> | > they go.
> | 
> | ... or (more likely) we all ignore them. (I'm talking about the old notes
> | written by Jane)
> | 
> | 
> | > Speaking of vaccum: Colin, does everyone who has a name agaist some text
> | > in the 2.8 list have an account yet, and thus they are simply lazy, or
> | do
> | > they still need accounts?-)
> | 
> | There's a list of all users at:
> | 
> | http://bodington.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Listusers
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | > <quote who="Adam Marshall">
> | >
> | >>I think a history of development meeting looks good as it indicates a
> | >>vibrant development community, also - it may possibly be useful to refer
> | >>back to the notes sometimes. So I disagree!
> | >>
> | >>adam
> | >>
> | >>| -----Original Message-----
> | >>| From: bod...@li...
> | >>| [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf
> | Of
> | >>| Colin Tatham
> | >>| Sent: 08 June 2006 11:31
> | >>| To: Bodington developers
> | >>| Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] old dev meet notes into wiki?
> | >>|
> | >>| Adam Marshall wrote:
> | >>| > I have meeting notes for
> | >>| >
> | >>| > 10/6/2004 - 28/04/2006
> | >>| >
> | >>| > Should I paste them into the wiki? Shout of you say no.
> | >>|
> | >>| I don't think a simple paste is helpful. I often found the notes
> | >>difficult
> | >>| to relate to the topics
> | >>| discussed, so I reckon you'd need to quite a bit of re-wording, and
> | >>| extracting only the relevant
> | >>| stuff. (I don't think anyone's impressed purely by quantity of content
> | >>in
> | >>| a dev wiki, I'm a fan of
> | >>| less is more...)
> | >>|
> | >>|
> | >>| Colin
> | >>|
> | >>| --
> | >>| ____________________________________
> | >>| Colin Tatham
> | >>| VLE Team
> | >>| Oxford University Computing Services
> | >>|
> | >>| http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
> | >>| http://bodington.org
> | >>|
> | >>|
> | >>| _______________________________________________
> | >>| Bodington-developers mailing list
> | >>| Bod...@li...
> | >>| https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>_______________________________________________
> | >>Bodington-developers mailing list
> | >>Bod...@li...
> | >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
> | >>
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | 
> | 
> | --
> | ____________________________________
> | Colin Tatham
> | VLE Team
> | Oxford University Computing Services
> | 
> | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
> | http://bodington.org
> | 
> | 
> | _______________________________________________
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> | Bod...@li...
> | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Colin Tatham
VLE Team
Oxford University Computing Services

http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
http://bodington.org

On 08/06/2006 13:54, Colin Tatham wrote:
> Adam Marshall wrote:
>   
>> Done now. 
>>     
>
> Must admit, looks good. :-)
>
> I'll hide some obscenities in the notes, and see if anyone ever finds them!
>   
Following this thread, I've taken the liberty of linking to the 
OSS-Watch site which has notes from a meeting back in 2003(!)  Could be 
of archaeological interest.

- Paul

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