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[Bodington-developers] templates

[Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...>]

Fixed the templates...but getting them into cvs is another matter.

- WinCVS
- got bods out ok
- puttygen public/private key
- upload public key
- hang ten
- pageant
- ssh login with private key
- commit file
- cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write 
access to the repository

I'll see Atif tomorrow.

Brian

Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Matthew B. <mat...@co...>]

Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> Fixed the templates...but getting them into cvs is another matter.
> 
> - WinCVS
> - got bods out ok
> - puttygen public/private key
> - upload public key
> - hang ten
> - pageant
> - ssh login with private key
> - commit file
> - cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write 
> access to the repository

All seems fine. Just as side point, if you use an IDE I would recommend
using that IDEs plugin if it has one as it allows a much smoother
workflow. Eclipse, IDEA, Netbeans all have reasonable CVS support I believe.

> I'll see Atif tomorrow.

You seem to have been added to the bodington sourceforge project as a
developer so you should have CVS access. However it seems like the file
CVSROOT/avail hasn't been updated to grant you access to the bodington
project. One of the project admins should be able to add you to the
right line of this file tomorrow.

-- 
+--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+
| VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group               |
| Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/       |
+------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+

Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Colin T. <col...@co...>]

I've added brian_clark to bodington. Do you want to try again?

Colin
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VLE Team
Oxford University Computing Services

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http://bodington.org


Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> Fixed the templates...but getting them into cvs is another matter.
> 
> - WinCVS
> - got bods out ok
> - puttygen public/private key
> - upload public key
> - hang ten
> - pageant
> - ssh login with private key
> - commit file
> - cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write 
> access to the repository
> 
> I'll see Atif tomorrow.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
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Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...>]

> Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> > Fixed the templates...but getting them into cvs is another matter.
> > 
> > - WinCVS
> > - got bods out ok
> > - puttygen public/private key
> > - upload public key
> > - hang ten
> > - pageant
> > - ssh login with private key
> > - commit file
> > - cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write 
> > access to the repository
> 
> All seems fine. Just as side point, if you use an IDE I would recommend
> using that IDEs plugin if it has one as it allows a much smoother
> workflow. Eclipse, IDEA, Netbeans all have reasonable CVS support I believe.
> 
> > I'll see Atif tomorrow.
> 
> You seem to have been added to the bodington sourceforge project as a
> developer so you should have CVS access. However it seems like the file
> CVSROOT/avail hasn't been updated to grant you access to the bodington
> project. One of the project admins should be able to add you to the
> right line of this file tomorrow.

Thanks.  I use JBuilder 8 - it has CVS functionality.  Can anyone 
recommend this?

Brian
> 
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> +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+
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Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Colin T. <col...@co...>]

I used to use JBuilder8. Although it had good integration for MS Visual 
SourceSafe, I found it a bit crap with CVS. I started using Eclipse 
purely for it's CVS integration (which I think is great) and 
subsequently moved across altogether...

Colin

PS: I also tried WinCVS, as Jon was using that, but didn't get on with 
that at all. Use Eclipse -- you'll get lots of help from us at Oxford if 
you need it. (OK, if Matthew and Alexis don't, I will...)

Colin
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VLE Team
Oxford University Computing Services

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http://bodington.org


Brian Peter Clark wrote:
>>Brian Peter Clark wrote:
>>
>>>Fixed the templates...but getting them into cvs is another matter.
>>>
>>>- WinCVS
>>>- got bods out ok
>>>- puttygen public/private key
>>>- upload public key
>>>- hang ten
>>>- pageant
>>>- ssh login with private key
>>>- commit file
>>>- cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write 
>>>access to the repository
>>
>>All seems fine. Just as side point, if you use an IDE I would recommend
>>using that IDEs plugin if it has one as it allows a much smoother
>>workflow. Eclipse, IDEA, Netbeans all have reasonable CVS support I believe.
>>
>>
>>>I'll see Atif tomorrow.
>>
>>You seem to have been added to the bodington sourceforge project as a
>>developer so you should have CVS access. However it seems like the file
>>CVSROOT/avail hasn't been updated to grant you access to the bodington
>>project. One of the project admins should be able to add you to the
>>right line of this file tomorrow.
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I use JBuilder 8 - it has CVS functionality.  Can anyone 
> recommend this?
> 
> Brian
> 
>>-- 
>>+--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+
>>| VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group               |
>>| Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/       |
>>+------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+
>>
>>
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> 
> 
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Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...>]

> 
> PS: I also tried WinCVS, as Jon was using that, but didn't get on with 
> that at all. Use Eclipse -- you'll get lots of help from us at Oxford if 
> you need it. (OK, if Matthew and Alexis don't, I will...)
> 

Yup, as far as I'm concerned CVS integration in Eclipse, is the business 
and I'd be happy to give you any tips ;-).

CVS integration in NetBeans (and therefore Java Studio Creator, etc) is 
crummy, although I believe they are working on a new CVS module.

As an aside, I'd say that TortoiseCVS is a simpler better integrated 
client than WinCVS.

Alexis

Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...>]

> 
> I used to use JBuilder8. Although it had good integration for MS Visual 
> SourceSafe, I found it a bit crap with CVS. I started using Eclipse 
> purely for it's CVS integration (which I think is great) and 
> subsequently moved across altogether...
> 
> Colin
> 
> PS: I also tried WinCVS, as Jon was using that, but didn't get on with 
> that at all. Use Eclipse -- you'll get lots of help from us at Oxford if 
> you need it. (OK, if Matthew and Alexis don't, I will...)
> 
> Colin

Thanks for the advice, everyone.

CVS with Eclipse is indeed very, very good. With some help from 
Atif I managed to commit the changes to the template files and the 
corresponding properties files with no problems at all.

JBuilder and I have been together now for for-ty years an' it don't 
seem a day too lo-ng, but...

I received a query from an academic at Manchester about the state 
of the applet menus tool and grumbling about how it requires Java 
1.4.  Is this tool now gone in the new Bods - is there some 
equivalent in Easybuilder?

Regards,

Brian
> ____________________________________
> Colin Tatham
> VLE Team
> Oxford University Computing Services
> 
> http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
> http://bodington.org
> 
> 
> Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> >>Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> >>
> >>>Fixed the templates...but getting them into cvs is another matter.
> >>>
> >>>- WinCVS
> >>>- got bods out ok
> >>>- puttygen public/private key
> >>>- upload public key
> >>>- hang ten
> >>>- pageant
> >>>- ssh login with private key
> >>>- commit file
> >>>- cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write 
> >>>access to the repository
> >>
> >>All seems fine. Just as side point, if you use an IDE I would recommend
> >>using that IDEs plugin if it has one as it allows a much smoother
> >>workflow. Eclipse, IDEA, Netbeans all have reasonable CVS support I believe.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I'll see Atif tomorrow.
> >>
> >>You seem to have been added to the bodington sourceforge project as a
> >>developer so you should have CVS access. However it seems like the file
> >>CVSROOT/avail hasn't been updated to grant you access to the bodington
> >>project. One of the project admins should be able to add you to the
> >>right line of this file tomorrow.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.  I use JBuilder 8 - it has CVS functionality.  Can anyone 
> > recommend this?
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> >>-- 
> >>+--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+
> >>| VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group               |
> >>| Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/       |
> >>+------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...>]

Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> 
> I received a query from an academic at Manchester about the state 
> of the applet menus tool and grumbling about how it requires Java 
> 1.4.  Is this tool now gone in the new Bods - is there some 
> equivalent in Easybuilder?
> 

I presume this is the file management applet you're talking about? It's 
still there. There used to be a ridiculously strict requirement for a 
JDK v1.4.0 on the client side and dependancy on a crimson XML parser. 
Since bodington v2.4.0 these dependancies have both gone; for example 
you can use it with JDK 1.5 (and it's internal Xerces parser).

The applet itself hasn't been improved. It's still experimental, but it 
does work (in a roundabout fashion!). If by any chance you're building 
Bodington from scratch you need to sign the applet for it to work, i.e. 
comment out skip.applet.sign in your build.properties, if using the 
build.xml.

Alexis

Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Colin T. <col...@co...>]

Dunno if this is what you were thinking of with regard to functionality 
in EasyBuilder that's a bit like the applet, but EasyBuilder allows you 
to upload a file and automatically create a QuickLink to it. This means 
you can:
- sort the uploaded file in the resource menu, along with other 
resources (as it's actually the QuickLink that you're sorting).
- provide a title and description of the uploaded file.
- hide the uploaded file, so that you don't see the silly display at the 
bottom of the page.
- add timed release, so that file/link is only available during a 
specific window.

(The QuickLink, timed release and EasyBuilder bits are all scheduled to 
be in 2.6).

Colin
____________________________________
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VLE Team
Oxford University Computing Services

http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/
http://bodington.org


Alexis O'Connor wrote:
> Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> 
>>
>> I received a query from an academic at Manchester about the state of 
>> the applet menus tool and grumbling about how it requires Java 1.4.  
>> Is this tool now gone in the new Bods - is there some equivalent in 
>> Easybuilder?
>>
> 
> I presume this is the file management applet you're talking about? It's 
> still there. There used to be a ridiculously strict requirement for a 
> JDK v1.4.0 on the client side and dependancy on a crimson XML parser. 
> Since bodington v2.4.0 these dependancies have both gone; for example 
> you can use it with JDK 1.5 (and it's internal Xerces parser).
> 
> The applet itself hasn't been improved. It's still experimental, but it 
> does work (in a roundabout fashion!). If by any chance you're building 
> Bodington from scratch you need to sign the applet for it to work, i.e. 
> comment out skip.applet.sign in your build.properties, if using the 
> build.xml.
> 
> Alexis
> 
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Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Brian P. C. <bm...@bm...>]

> Brian Peter Clark wrote:
> > 
> > I received a query from an academic at Manchester about the state 
> > of the applet menus tool and grumbling about how it requires Java 
> > 1.4.  Is this tool now gone in the new Bods - is there some 
> > equivalent in Easybuilder?
> > 
> 
> I presume this is the file management applet you're talking about? It's 
> still there. There used to be a ridiculously strict requirement for a 
> JDK v1.4.0 on the client side and dependancy on a crimson XML parser. 
> Since bodington v2.4.0 these dependancies have both gone; for example 
> you can use it with JDK 1.5 (and it's internal Xerces parser).
> 
> The applet itself hasn't been improved. It's still experimental, but it 
> does work (in a roundabout fashion!). If by any chance you're building 
> Bodington from scratch you need to sign the applet for it to work, i.e. 
> comment out skip.applet.sign in your build.properties, if using the 
> build.xml.
> 
> Alexis

Ah, right - thanks. I forgot that I always blank out the sign applets 
bit.  

This person is getting the java 1.4 requirement on 
wunlearn.leeds.ac.uk, the version number of which I am higgerant. 
I'll say that the problem will disappear in new shiny bods.

Brian
> 
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Re: [Bodington-developers] templates

[Sean M. <se...@sm...>]

this is our std response!-)


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On 21 Jul 2005, at 15:10, Brian Peter Clark wrote:

>
> This person is getting the java 1.4 requirement on
> wunlearn.leeds.ac.uk, the version number of which I am higgerant.
> I'll say that the problem will disappear in new shiny bods.
>
> Brian