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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-07-12 16:36:42
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> From: Alexis O'Connor=20 > I'd have to say that my brain was being affected by the rather warm=20 > office, punctuated by a work-man next door with a drill that made a=20 > sound like a scream from hades! Computer. Headphones. Nice bit of Motorhead. Works a treat to fend off screaming drill noises, chief execs.... - Peter |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2005-07-13 12:06:12
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> From: Sean Mehan [mailto:se...@sm...]=20 > maybe the lady doth protest too much. If you can quote rather dated =20 > rush tracks, then methinks you may know the lyrics rather well as =20 > well!-) ... and if you know that they're dated, maybe you're tainted too (or a dab hand with a lyric search). - Peter "Now at last I fall before the fountains of Lamneth. I thought I would be singing, but I'm tired and out of breath." |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 12:20:28
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Why are web.xml and context.xml in this directory and not WEB-INF? Or, why doesn't build.xml put them there? |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-07-13 12:33:47
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Why are web.xml and context.xml in this directory and not WEB-INF? Or, > why doesn't build.xml put them there? The webapp target drops them into the build directory. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 12:48:28
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but the build target doesn't! Can build be updated so that it does? What's the reason for putting them in the etc directory? On 13 Jul 2005, at 13:33, Matthew Buckett wrote: > Antony Corfield wrote: >> Why are web.xml and context.xml in this directory and not WEB-INF? >> Or, why doesn't build.xml put them there? > > The webapp target drops them into the build directory. > > -- > +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ > | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | > | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | > +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar > happening > July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in > dual > core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted > by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit > http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-13 13:32:13
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Antony Corfield wrote: > but the build target doesn't! Can build be updated so that it does? The webapp target is a "super target" of build, in that it also signs the applet jar and compiles the templates. If you want both of these operations to be skipped (but want everything else to occur) when you run webapp, then add ensure 'skip.applet.sign' and 'skip.compile.templates' are set in your build.properties file. If the (optional) description attribute of a target element exists, then this should describe what that target does. 'build' and 'webapp' have these. Any target element which has a description attribute is described as "top-level". To get a list of all the top-level targets in a build.xml, type the following: $>ant -projecthelp > What's the reason for putting them in the etc directory? > See the other e-mail. Alexis |
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-13 13:12:15
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Antony Corfield wrote:
> Why are web.xml and context.xml in this directory and not WEB-INF? Or,
> why doesn't build.xml put them there?
>
OK, here's a comprehensive answer!
Both the web.xml and context.xml in /etc are never used *as-is*. Each
contain tokens intended to be replaced with text strings that are more
meaningful @DISPLAY_NAME@ and @DOC_BASE@ respectively. Therefore their
use is entirely driven from the build.xml.
The web.xml does indeed end up under ${build}/../WEB-INF/, having had
it's display name set to something like 'bodington (v2.4.3)' (in Tomcat
this appears in the HTML manager application).
The context.xml is in particular required by the target
deploy-local-5_5. In order to deploy a web-app from a local file system
('deploy local') that isn't under ${catalina.home}/webapps onto Tomcat
5.5 requires this jiggery-pokery. I came to this through trial and
error, so I know that it is necessary, but that it does work(!). It
*can* go under ${build}/../WEB-INF/ if you're deploying it as a war
file), but that's not how I use it (it would be superfluous for a war
deployed to JBoss say).
Alexis
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 13:39:52
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Ok Alexis, as a developer, I don't want to deploy a war file, I just
want to build the webapp and copy the contents of build directory to
${catalina.home}/webapps wherever that might be. If I use the build
target catalina.xml and web.xml are missing from the resulting WEB-INF
folder. Which build target should I use?
On 13 Jul 2005, at 14:12, Alexis O'Connor wrote:
> Antony Corfield wrote:
>> Why are web.xml and context.xml in this directory and not WEB-INF?
>> Or, why doesn't build.xml put them there?
>>
>
> OK, here's a comprehensive answer!
>
> Both the web.xml and context.xml in /etc are never used *as-is*. Each
> contain tokens intended to be replaced with text strings that are
> more meaningful @DISPLAY_NAME@ and @DOC_BASE@ respectively. Therefore
> their use is entirely driven from the build.xml.
>
> The web.xml does indeed end up under ${build}/../WEB-INF/, having had
> it's display name set to something like 'bodington (v2.4.3)' (in
> Tomcat this appears in the HTML manager application).
>
> The context.xml is in particular required by the target
> deploy-local-5_5. In order to deploy a web-app from a local file
> system ('deploy local') that isn't under ${catalina.home}/webapps onto
> Tomcat 5.5 requires this jiggery-pokery. I came to this through trial
> and error, so I know that it is necessary, but that it does work(!).
> It *can* go under ${build}/../WEB-INF/ if you're deploying it as a war
> file), but that's not how I use it (it would be superfluous for a war
> deployed to JBoss say).
>
> Alexis
>
>
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-13 13:57:26
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Antony Corfield wrote:
> Ok Alexis, as a developer, I don't want to deploy a war file, I just
> want to build the webapp and copy the contents of build directory to
> ${catalina.home}/webapps wherever that might be. If I use the build
> target catalina.xml and web.xml are missing from the resulting WEB-INF
> folder. Which build target should I use?
>
Deploying in the way you specify - webapp.
You do *not* need a context.xml for that.
Alexis
P.S. In a quiet moment, you might like to look at the deploy-local
target. This does *not* deploy via a war file either.
P.P.S. I had been thinking at the back of my mind that I probably did
need to write a document that describes the rationale and design of the
build.xml. This probably makes the case ;-).
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 14:07:08
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Thanks, finally!! actually, my last email was sent before I received
your other one so thanks. Anyway, no need to document build.xml - I
just wrote my own version!-)
Antony
On 13 Jul 2005, at 14:57, Alexis O'Connor wrote:
> Antony Corfield wrote:
>> Ok Alexis, as a developer, I don't want to deploy a war file, I just
>> want to build the webapp and copy the contents of build directory to
>> ${catalina.home}/webapps wherever that might be. If I use the build
>> target catalina.xml and web.xml are missing from the resulting
>> WEB-INF folder. Which build target should I use?
>
> Deploying in the way you specify - webapp.
>
> You do *not* need a context.xml for that.
>
> Alexis
>
> P.S. In a quiet moment, you might like to look at the deploy-local
> target. This does *not* deploy via a war file either.
>
> P.P.S. I had been thinking at the back of my mind that I probably did
> need to write a document that describes the rationale and design of
> the build.xml. This probably makes the case ;-).
>
>
>
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From: Alexis O'C. <ale...@co...> - 2005-07-13 14:23:35
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Antony Corfield wrote: > Thanks, finally!! actually, my last email was sent before I received > your other one so thanks. Anyway, no need to document build.xml - I just > wrote my own version!-) > Antony > Hmmm... 'transparent', 'self-describing' 'fool-proof' ... Thanks for the UHI CLAN icons and hyperlinks in Bodington HEAD - nice touch! Alexis |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 14:36:57
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They're free to early adopters. A clever lad like you should be able to work it out !-) Apologies for getting ratty but I've just taken all morning to get a working version off HEAD (yes it's in a state of flux) and build.. Happy committing On 13 Jul 2005, at 15:23, Alexis O'Connor wrote: > Antony Corfield wrote: >> Thanks, finally!! actually, my last email was sent before I received >> your other one so thanks. Anyway, no need to document build.xml - I >> just wrote my own version!-) >> Antony > > Hmmm... 'transparent', 'self-describing' 'fool-proof' ... > > Thanks for the UHI CLAN icons and hyperlinks in Bodington HEAD - nice > touch! > > Alexis > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar > happening > July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in > dual > core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted > by HP, AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit > http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 12:50:09
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> "Now at last I fall before the fountains of Lamneth. > I thought I would be singing, but I'm tired and out of breath." you want to get some exercise mate ;) Alistair On 13 Jul 2005, at 13:06, Peter Crowther wrote: >> From: Sean Mehan [mailto:se...@sm...] >> maybe the lady doth protest too much. If you can quote rather dated >> rush tracks, then methinks you may know the lyrics rather well as >> well!-) >> > > ... and if you know that they're dated, maybe you're tainted too (or a > dab hand with a lyric search). > > - Peter > > "Now at last I fall before the fountains of Lamneth. > I thought I would be singing, but I'm tired and out of breath." > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar > happening > July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in > dual > core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event > hosted by HP, > AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-07-12 16:59:19
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hey, what's you favourite track Peter? I'm a bit partial to "I won't pay your price" from "Overkill" Alistair --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland >> From: Alexis O'Connor >> I'd have to say that my brain was being affected by the rather warm >> office, punctuated by a work-man next door with a drill that made a >> sound like a scream from hades! > > Computer. Headphones. Nice bit of Motorhead. Works a treat to fend > off screaming drill noises, chief execs.... > > - Peter > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar > happening > July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in dua= l > core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted by > HP, > AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-07-12 17:17:40
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That's it, I'm going home before we get the complete lyrics to (Rush=20 2112) the temples of syrinx... On 12 Jul 2005, at 17:59, Alistair Young wrote: > hey, what's you favourite track Peter? I'm a bit partial to "I won't=20= > pay > your price" from "Overkill" > > Alistair > > > --=20 > Alistair Young > Senior Software Engineer > UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig > Isle of Skye > Scotland > >>> From: Alexis O'Connor >>> I'd have to say that my brain was being affected by the rather warm >>> office, punctuated by a work-man next door with a drill that made a >>> sound like a scream from hades! >> >> Computer. Headphones. Nice bit of Motorhead. Works a treat to fend >> off screaming drill noises, chief execs.... >> >> - Peter >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar >> happening >> July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in=20= >> dual >> core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted=20= >> by >> HP, >> AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 'Do More With Dual!' webinar=20 > happening > July 14 at 8am PDT/11am EDT. We invite you to explore the latest in=20 > dual > core and dual graphics technology at this free one hour event hosted=20= > by HP, > AMD, and NVIDIA. To register visit http://www.hp.com/go/dualwebinar > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-07-13 12:00:33
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maybe the lady doth protest too much. If you can quote rather dated =20 rush tracks, then methinks you may know the lyrics rather well as =20 well!-) s.fc On 12 Jul 2005, at 18:17, Antony Corfield wrote: > That's it, I'm going home before we get the complete lyrics to =20 > (Rush 2112) the temples of syrinx... > > On 12 Jul 2005, at 17:59, Alistair Young wrote: > > >> hey, what's you favourite track Peter? I'm a bit partial to "I =20 >> won't pay >> your price" from "Overkill" >> >> Alistair >> >> >> --=20 >> Alistair Young >> Senior Software Engineer >> UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig >> Isle of Skye >> Scotland >> >> >>>> From: Alexis O'Connor >>>> I'd have to say that my brain was being affected by the rather warm >>>> office, punctuated by a work-man next door with a drill that made a >>>> sound like a scream from hades! >>>> >>> >>> Computer. Headphones. Nice bit of Motorhead. Works a treat to =20 >>> fend >>> off screaming drill noises, chief execs.... >>> >>> - Peter >>> |
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