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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-24 12:08:35
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hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the bodington.org SP. Do you, bodders, think this is workable? Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. Alistair |
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From: Paul D. <pau...@ou...> - 2006-03-24 12:27:01
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When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? Which implementation of the integration? How seamless is it to use, and can user groups/rights be carried across? When you say Bodington.org as a host are you thinking of blackcat networks or UHI or Leeds? We couldn't volunteer here. Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul V Davis Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group Project Manager, WebLearn ( Oxford's version of Bodington.org) Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN Tel: 01865 283414 -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 24 March 2006 12:09 To: bod...@li... Subject: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the bodington.org SP. Do you, bodders, think this is workable? Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. Alistair ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-24 12:34:34
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> When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? hands up! that's what I heard. > Which > implementation of the integration? what do you mean Paul? > How seamless is it to use needs new tool in bod to direct user to mvnforum instead of bod board. > can user > groups/rights be carried across? yes, they come across as SAML Assertions from bod. Means the IdP in bod must be turned on to use mvnforum. > We couldn't volunteer here fair enough. Maybe we'll run one up here. thanks, Alistair On 24 Mar 2006, at 12:27, Paul Davis wrote: > When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? Which > implementation of the integration? How seamless is it to use, and > can user > groups/rights be carried across? > > When you say Bodington.org as a host are you thinking of blackcat > networks > or UHI or Leeds? We couldn't volunteer here. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Dr Paul V Davis > Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group > Project Manager, WebLearn ( Oxford's version of Bodington.org) > Oxford University Computing Services > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN > Tel: 01865 283414 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 24 March 2006 12:09 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP > > hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! > > Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. > Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead > for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. > > However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the > SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone > wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the > bodington.org SP. > > Do you, bodders, think this is workable? > > Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? > > Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe > we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. > > Alistair > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-03-24 13:18:23
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Urrggle! I thought we agreed that mvnforum was going in, but it would be the UHI 'same context' version. What happened - has the web service version surfaced? Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Paul Davis Sent: 24 March 2006 12:27 To: bod...@li... Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? Which implementation of the integration? How seamless is it to use, and can user groups/rights be carried across? When you say Bodington.org as a host are you thinking of blackcat networks or UHI or Leeds? We couldn't volunteer here. Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul V Davis Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group Project Manager, WebLearn ( Oxford's version of Bodington.org) Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN Tel: 01865 283414 -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 24 March 2006 12:09 To: bod...@li... Subject: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the bodington.org SP. Do you, bodders, think this is workable? Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. Alistair ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2006-03-24 13:25:51
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LOL! I give in - it's Friday, the sun's out - where's me deckchair and knotted hankie? I'd have reservations about the in-context one as it uses an auto login "feature". The shibbed version creates users on the fly and adds them into groups defined in their attributes. It doesn't create fora etc as that's not shibboleth - that's provisioning - IMS, which we're looking into. Ant has a load of useful in-context functionality that does that but we're thinking of IMSing it or something similar. So bod uses IMS to create the fora from it's tool and users use shibb to get to the fora. > has the web service version > surfaced? not yet Aggie Alistair On 24 Mar 2006, at 13:18, Andrew Booth wrote: > Urrggle! I thought we agreed that mvnforum was going in, but it > would be > the UHI 'same context' version. What happened - has the web > service version > surfaced? > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf > Of Paul > Davis > Sent: 24 March 2006 12:27 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP > > When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? Which > implementation of the integration? How seamless is it to use, and > can user > groups/rights be carried across? > > When you say Bodington.org as a host are you thinking of blackcat > networks > or UHI or Leeds? We couldn't volunteer here. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Dr Paul V Davis > Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group > Project Manager, WebLearn ( Oxford's version of Bodington.org) > Oxford University Computing Services > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN > Tel: 01865 283414 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 24 March 2006 12:09 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP > > hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! > > Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. > Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead > for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. > > However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the > SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone > wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the > bodington.org SP. > > Do you, bodders, think this is workable? > > Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? > > Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe > we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. > > Alistair > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2006-03-24 13:46:12
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OK - so UHI and Leeds are now doing it the same way! Isn't convergence wonderful? Don't forget the sun block - there's a lot of ultraviolet up there! Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 24 March 2006 13:26 To: bod...@li... Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP LOL! I give in - it's Friday, the sun's out - where's me deckchair and knotted hankie? I'd have reservations about the in-context one as it uses an auto login "feature". The shibbed version creates users on the fly and adds them into groups defined in their attributes. It doesn't create fora etc as that's not shibboleth - that's provisioning - IMS, which we're looking into. Ant has a load of useful in-context functionality that does that but we're thinking of IMSing it or something similar. So bod uses IMS to create the fora from it's tool and users use shibb to get to the fora. > has the web service version > surfaced? not yet Aggie Alistair On 24 Mar 2006, at 13:18, Andrew Booth wrote: > Urrggle! I thought we agreed that mvnforum was going in, but it > would be > the UHI 'same context' version. What happened - has the web > service version > surfaced? > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf > Of Paul > Davis > Sent: 24 March 2006 12:27 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP > > When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? Which > implementation of the integration? How seamless is it to use, and > can user > groups/rights be carried across? > > When you say Bodington.org as a host are you thinking of blackcat > networks > or UHI or Leeds? We couldn't volunteer here. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Dr Paul V Davis > Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group > Project Manager, WebLearn ( Oxford's version of Bodington.org) > Oxford University Computing Services > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN > Tel: 01865 283414 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 24 March 2006 12:09 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP > > hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! > > Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. > Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead > for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. > > However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the > SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone > wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the > bodington.org SP. > > Do you, bodders, think this is workable? > > Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? > > Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe > we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. > > Alistair > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Colin T. <col...@ou...> - 2006-04-26 13:55:44
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Any news/views on MVNForum integration? I'm not sure what stage we got to with this discussion, looks like y'all agree that it should be a Shibbed integration, but there are still differences in implementation... Colin Alistair Young wrote: ... > I'd have reservations about the in-context one as it uses an auto login > "feature". > > The shibbed version creates users on the fly and adds them into groups > defined in their attributes. It doesn't create fora etc as that's not > shibboleth - that's provisioning - IMS, which we're looking into. > > Ant has a load of useful in-context functionality that does that but > we're thinking of IMSing it or something similar. So bod uses IMS to > create the fora from it's tool and users use shibb to get to the fora. > >> has the web service version >> surfaced? > > not yet Aggie > > Alistair > > On 24 Mar 2006, at 13:18, Andrew Booth wrote: > >> Urrggle! I thought we agreed that mvnforum was going in, but it >> would be >> the UHI 'same context' version. What happened - has the web service >> version >> surfaced? >> >> Aggie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf >> Of Paul >> Davis >> Sent: 24 March 2006 12:27 >> To: bod...@li... >> Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP >> >> When did we decide MVN forum was definitely going into 2.8? Which >> implementation of the integration? How seamless is it to use, and >> can user >> groups/rights be carried across? >> >> When you say Bodington.org as a host are you thinking of blackcat >> networks >> or UHI or Leeds? We couldn't volunteer here. >> >> Paul >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> Dr Paul V Davis >> Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group >> Project Manager, WebLearn ( Oxford's version of Bodington.org) >> Oxford University Computing Services >> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN >> Tel: 01865 283414 >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of >> Alistair Young >> Sent: 24 March 2006 12:09 >> To: bod...@li... >> Subject: [Bodington-developers] bodington.org SP >> >> hey, I'm back - it's sunny here - must be the light! >> >> Anway, mvnforum - I've been told it's going in 2.8 but it's shibbed. >> Now, it needs the Guanxi SP in front of it but it's a lot of overhead >> for a site to learn and maintain - all that federation stuff. >> >> However, if bodington.org hosted the Guanxi SAML Engine module of the >> SP, the we could just distribute Guards with mvnforum and anyone >> wanting to try bod + mvnforum could use the services of the >> bodington.org SP. >> >> Do you, bodders, think this is workable? >> >> Would bodington.org be willing/able to host a bodington federation SP? >> >> Is the idea itself workable? If bodington.org couldn't host it maybe >> we could but it would be nice if it had the bodington.org domain. >> >> Alistair -- ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ http://bodington.org |
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