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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-05-06 11:55:33
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I think this is correct: see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't clickable no see = the link is invisible view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and clickable no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, italicised and not clickable can we bin see? it's very confusing. IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click on? vote: remove "see" +1 view |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-05-06 12:06:53
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No It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there, even if they can't get at it. If you don't want it to be seen, deny see privilege. --2 for removing "see" Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 06 May 2005 12:55 To: Bodington Developers Subject: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view I think this is correct: see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't clickable no see = the link is invisible view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and clickable no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, italicised and not clickable can we bin see? it's very confusing. IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click on? vote: remove "see" +1 view ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-05-06 12:14:30
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> It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there why? what will displaying it's name acheive? On 6 May 2005, at 13:07, Andrew Booth wrote: > No > > It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there, > even if they can't get at it. If you don't want it to be seen, deny > see > privilege. > > --2 for removing "see" > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 06 May 2005 12:55 > To: Bodington Developers > Subject: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view > > > I think this is correct: > > see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't > clickable > no see = the link is invisible > view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and > clickable > no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, > italicised and not clickable > > can we bin see? it's very confusing. > > IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should > be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click > on? > > vote: > remove "see" +1 > > view > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. > Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great > events, > 4 > opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to > win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. > Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great > events, 4 > opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to > win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-05-06 12:24:48
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We do it as a matter of routine. We allow anonymous access to our distance-learning site. They can see what modules are available, but not get into them. They get a feel for what the VLE is like and then they can apply for details or download them from an area that they do have access to. Denying them see would leave a very empty-looking area. Also, I have some areas where I need view but not see for some months while an applet gathers data. I then open them up with see later. So I use both see without view and view with/without see. Remove see and two of our postgraduate courses using bespoke applets, would be stuffed. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 06 May 2005 13:14 To: a.g...@le... Cc: 'Bodington Developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view > It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there why? what will displaying it's name acheive? On 6 May 2005, at 13:07, Andrew Booth wrote: > No > > It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there, > even if they can't get at it. If you don't want it to be seen, deny > see > privilege. > > --2 for removing "see" > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 06 May 2005 12:55 > To: Bodington Developers > Subject: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view > > > I think this is correct: > > see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't > clickable > no see = the link is invisible > view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and > clickable > no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, > italicised and not clickable > > can we bin see? it's very confusing. > > IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should > be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click > on? > > vote: > remove "see" +1 > > view > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. > Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great > events, > 4 > opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to > win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. > Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great > events, 4 > opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to > win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Paul D. <pau...@co...> - 2005-05-06 12:40:38
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Similarly we need view only access to resources that are graphics - we wouldn't want people to be able to see a large filestore, we want the graphics to appear in the relevant page. We need see and view as separate entities Paul Paul Davis 01865 283414 -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Andrew Booth Sent: 06 May 2005 13:26 To: 'Alistair Young' Cc: 'Bodington Developers'; a.g...@le... Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view We do it as a matter of routine. We allow anonymous access to our distance-learning site. They can see what modules are available, but not get into them. They get a feel for what the VLE is like and then they can apply for details or download them from an area that they do have access to. Denying them see would leave a very empty-looking area. Also, I have some areas where I need view but not see for some months while an applet gathers data. I then open them up with see later. So I use both see without view and view with/without see. Remove see and two of our postgraduate courses using bespoke applets, would be stuffed. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 06 May 2005 13:14 To: a.g...@le... Cc: 'Bodington Developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view > It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there why? what will displaying it's name acheive? On 6 May 2005, at 13:07, Andrew Booth wrote: > No > > It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there, > even if they can't get at it. If you don't want it to be seen, deny > see > privilege. > > --2 for removing "see" > > Aggie > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 06 May 2005 12:55 > To: Bodington Developers > Subject: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view > > > I think this is correct: > > see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't > clickable > no see = the link is invisible > view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and > clickable > no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, > italicised and not clickable > > can we bin see? it's very confusing. > > IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should > be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click > on? > > vote: > remove "see" +1 > > view > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. > Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great > events, > 4 > opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to > win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. > Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great > events, 4 > opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to > win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-05-06 12:21:26
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Andrew Booth wrote: > It's sometimes useful to allow people to see that a module is there, > even if they can't get at it. If you don't want it to be seen, deny see > privilege. Although the Bodington permissions system is a little complex I'd tend to agree with Aggie here. Added to the fact that we have people using SEE/VIEW access this way here at Oxford so removing it would cause problems. > see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't > clickable > no see = the link is invisible > view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and > clickable > no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, > italicised and not clickable See and view are independent. see = Can see the resource in the parent listing. view = Can view the resource. I see the removing of a link as an "optimization" for the user so they don't have to click on the link to find out they don't have VIEW access. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-05-06 12:34:29
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I would envisage complaints if we were to remove it. adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young | Sent: 06 May 2005 12:55 | To: Bodington Developers | Subject: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view | | I think this is correct: | | see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't | clickable | no see = the link is invisible | view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and | clickable | no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, | italicised and not clickable | | can we bin see? it's very confusing. | | IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should | be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click | on? | | vote: | remove "see" +1 | | view | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. | Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 | opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to | win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Paul D. <pau...@co...> - 2005-05-06 12:37:40
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We recommend that see access is granted at the top level of all sites so that people know there is content there. If they need access to that content it's a matter of talking to the relevant local managers. If there is no content they talk to us to get a site created. -2 for removing Paul Paul Davis 01865 283414 -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Alistair Young Sent: 06 May 2005 12:55 To: Bodington Developers Subject: [Bodington-developers] manage resource : see & view I think this is correct: see = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible but isn't clickable no see = the link is invisible view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible and clickable no view = the link to the resource, in it's parent, is visible, italicised and not clickable can we bin see? it's very confusing. IMHO if a resource is not to be viewed (accessed) then it's link should be invisible. Why have a load of resource names that you can't click on? vote: remove "see" +1 view ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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