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From: Owen D. <owe...@ou...> - 2006-03-29 13:01:14
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hi, for those that don't know me, i'm a placement student working on = Weblearn this year. just wondered whether anybody knows why the left hand frame is set to = "no" scrolling and the main section is set to "auto". I am considering = setting the former to "auto" as well, but just wanted to check it wasn't = set to "no" for a good reason. i am developing a <noscript> version of = the left panel and need to guard against content being lost in the = frames underworld.=20 thanks owen ----------------------------------------------------------- Owen Davies Oxford University Computing Services 01865 273 252 |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-29 13:06:07
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Probably a historical hangover. The original purpose of the frame was to display an illustrative (i.e. non-essential) graphic. If the window is too small to show the whole graphic it is better for it to be cropped than to have an ugly scroll bar appear in the middle of the frame set. If the frame is now functional rather than decorative then a scroll bar is needed. Jon Owen Davies wrote: >hi, >for those that don't know me, i'm a placement student working on Weblearn this year. > >just wondered whether anybody knows why the left hand frame is set to "no" scrolling and the main section is set to "auto". I am considering setting the former to "auto" as well, but just wanted to check it wasn't set to "no" for a good reason. i am developing a <noscript> version of the left panel and need to guard against content being lost in the frames underworld. > >thanks >owen > >----------------------------------------------------------- >Owen Davies >Oxford University Computing Services >01865 273 252 > > > |
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From: Owen D. <owe...@ou...> - 2006-03-29 13:28:45
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brill. just what i wanted to hear. does the same apply to the top frame? our login info has a nasty habit of disappearing when the text size is increased in a browser. owen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Maber" <jo...@te...> To: <bod...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] frame query > Probably a historical hangover. The original purpose of the frame was to > display an illustrative (i.e. non-essential) graphic. If the window is too > small to show the whole graphic it is better for it to be cropped than to > have an ugly scroll bar appear in the middle of the frame set. If the > frame is now functional rather than decorative then a scroll bar is > needed. > > Jon > > > Owen Davies wrote: > >>hi, >>for those that don't know me, i'm a placement student working on Weblearn >>this year. >> >>just wondered whether anybody knows why the left hand frame is set to "no" >>scrolling and the main section is set to "auto". I am considering setting >>the former to "auto" as well, but just wanted to check it wasn't set to >>"no" for a good reason. i am developing a <noscript> version of the left >>panel and need to guard against content being lost in the frames >>underworld. >>thanks >>owen >> >>----------------------------------------------------------- >>Owen Davies >>Oxford University Computing Services >>01865 273 252 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jon M. <jo...@te...> - 2006-03-29 14:27:23
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The top frame is a bit more tricky - ideally it should never need a scroll bar because it's going to look bad. On the other hand with the recent redesign it's got less unused space. An additional problem is that users may set different font sizes which may make it even more cramped. Can frame sizes be specified in units of em? It might be a good idea if it's size was relative to the font size. Really you want a more complex size calculation based on the greater of (the icon size in pixels plus a margin) and (the height of a couple of lines of text in ems.) Jon Owen Davies wrote: > brill. just what i wanted to hear. > > does the same apply to the top frame? our login info has a nasty habit > of disappearing when the text size is increased in a browser. > > owen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Maber" <jo...@te...> > To: <bod...@li...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] frame query > > >> Probably a historical hangover. The original purpose of the frame >> was to display an illustrative (i.e. non-essential) graphic. If the >> window is too small to show the whole graphic it is better for it to >> be cropped than to have an ugly scroll bar appear in the middle of >> the frame set. If the frame is now functional rather than decorative >> then a scroll bar is needed. >> >> Jon >> >> >> Owen Davies wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> for those that don't know me, i'm a placement student working on >>> Weblearn this year. >>> >>> just wondered whether anybody knows why the left hand frame is set >>> to "no" scrolling and the main section is set to "auto". I am >>> considering setting the former to "auto" as well, but just wanted to >>> check it wasn't set to "no" for a good reason. i am developing a >>> <noscript> version of the left panel and need to guard against >>> content being lost in the frames underworld. >>> thanks >>> owen >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> Owen Davies >>> Oxford University Computing Services >>> 01865 273 252 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting >> language >> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live >> webcast >> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding >> territory! >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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