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From: Chih-Chung C. <b45...@cs...> - 2002-08-08 17:04:16
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Is it possible to use a non-default validator for a TextCtrl? There is a Validator field in the inspector, but it can't be edited. Thanks. |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-08-08 07:52:22
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Hello everyone, I've just finished with the check in. Major items: * wxPython 2.3.3 support improved. Depending on the version of wxPython you run both the old and new versions of the wxMenu.Append() API is supported in the Designer. When you switch between wxPython versions, you have to manually change the generated code. The newest version of wxPython (pre5) fixes a very nasty problem where the wxListCtrl could cause a core dump (pre4), but unfortunately introduces some window focus related problems. After running a module from Boa and losing the focus to the Error Output window, the wxStyledTextCtrl source window cannot regain focus with the mouse. You *have* to tab to it. * Recent Files added to the Explorer and File menu. * Debugger Added tiny Zope Product which allows you to use sys.breakpoint() from within Python Scripts. * The zoa component used by the Zope support can now install itself on a Zope server automatically. * Zope Find. * Most of the core supported filetypes are now optional (can be toggled under Preferences. * Generated methods now warns not to edit (can be toggled under Preferences) * Special attributes can now be defined in a seperate class and used by the wxFrame as a mixin. See AttrMixins under Examples/advanced. * ClipboardPlus feature, contributed by Roman Yakovenko. This allows you to have more than one selection in the clipboard. * Improved Editor<->Explorer file status notification. * Warn on file overwrite if the modified time changed since last save. * Many bug fixes. * Much refactoring. Please check it out and try it out. Enjoy! Riaan. |
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From: Edward M. <edw...@in...> - 2002-08-08 00:20:22
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Cool. I'll wait a few days. When CVS get's 'fixed' can the developer(s) drop a notice on the list? On Wed, 2002-08-07 at 14:14, Misner, Ris wrote: > > I was wondering before I begin should I go for the CVS version of BOA > > Constructor or use the latest release? > > I'm using the CVS version as of about a week ago and I find it much improved over the latest release. > > Apparently, the very latest version in CVS is not completely working right now, but you could check out the contents from a couple of days ago, or wait a couple of days and I'm sure it will be resolved soon. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users |
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From: Misner, R. <rm...@ac...> - 2002-08-07 19:49:47
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> I was wondering before I begin should I go for the CVS version of BOA > Constructor or use the latest release? I'm using the CVS version as of about a week ago and I find it much = improved over the latest release. Apparently, the very latest version in CVS is not completely working = right now, but you could check out the contents from a couple of days = ago, or wait a couple of days and I'm sure it will be resolved soon. |
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From: Edward M. <edw...@in...> - 2002-08-07 18:50:59
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Hello... I'm new to Boa Constructor and haven't worked much with python in a year or so and I am looking for a good IDE/GUI Constructor. I was wondering before I begin should I go for the CVS version of BOA Constructor or use the latest release? Thanks.... -EAM |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-08-07 15:19:08
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Hi, I still have not found the subscribed address that is causing the trouble, but I have blocked MAI...@fa.... Hopefully only I will get the delivery failure messages now :/ Riaan. Riaan Booysen wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I apologise for this and am just as frustrated about it. > > I cannot find the email address jas...@fa... under the > list of subscribed users for this mailing list and it's the only email > address I can see in the returned headers :( > > Usually Mailman unsubscribes bouncing mail addresses automatically > but as you note it's not happening. > > I will go through all the addresses *again*, and failing that see if > I can get Mailman to block mail from MAI...@fa.... > > Sorry, > Riaan. > > "Misner, Ris" wrote: > > > > Could the administrator of this list please do something about these undeliverable mail messages? I've been getting them as part of the list digest every day for over a week. The problem is not going to resolve itself without interference because each undeliverable mail message is distributed to the entire list, including to the undeliverable address, which causes another undeliverable mail message, and so on... It seems to me that the best solution is to prevent "undeliverable mail" and other similar error message replies from being distributed to the entire list. Alternately, the administrator could remove the erroneous address from the list and it will stop the problem until the next time. |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-08-07 14:55:01
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Hi Christian, Christian Tismer wrote: > > Hi Riaan, > > I'm using Boa all the time since a couple of weeks > for a larger project. Great! > Today I did a CVS update, and now Boa cannot start any > longer. The is a function "getIndentBlock" missing from > utils.py . > Can it be that you forgot to commit utils.py to CVS? I am sorry about this :( I've spent the last two evenings checking in the latest version, but I'm still not quite done. Check out the repository against an earlier date, say 3 days or a week ago. I know, I should have tagged it before I started. I will notify the list when everything is checked in. > thanks - chris > > p.s.: I'm using wxPython with Stackless - works great! Fantastic! Cheers, Riaan. > -- > Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:ti...@ti...> > Mission Impossible 5oftware : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's > Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9a : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ > 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ > work +49 30 89 09 53 34 home +49 30 802 86 56 pager +49 173 24 18 776 > PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 > whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-08-07 14:54:34
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Hello everyone, I apologise for this and am just as frustrated about it. I cannot find the email address jas...@fa... under the list of subscribed users for this mailing list and it's the only email address I can see in the returned headers :( Usually Mailman unsubscribes bouncing mail addresses automatically but as you note it's not happening. I will go through all the addresses *again*, and failing that see if I can get Mailman to block mail from MAI...@fa.... Sorry, Riaan. "Misner, Ris" wrote: > > Could the administrator of this list please do something about these undeliverable mail messages? I've been getting them as part of the list digest every day for over a week. The problem is not going to resolve itself without interference because each undeliverable mail message is distributed to the entire list, including to the undeliverable address, which causes another undeliverable mail message, and so on... It seems to me that the best solution is to prevent "undeliverable mail" and other similar error message replies from being distributed to the entire list. Alternately, the administrator could remove the erroneous address from the list and it will stop the problem until the next time. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: boa...@li... > > [mailto:boa...@li...]On Behalf Of > > boa...@li... > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:10 AM > > To: boa...@li... > > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #233 - 1 msg > > > > > > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > > boa...@li... > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > boa...@li... > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > boa...@li... > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > > To: boa...@li... > > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:09:47 -0500 (CDT) > > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > --_----------=_1028722186219664 > > Content-Description: Notification > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > > > The Postfix program > > > > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028722186219664 > > Content-Description: Delivery error report > > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > > Arrival-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:09 PM > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.0.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028722186219664 > > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > > > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Tue, > > 06 Aug 2002 14:02:39 -0500 > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm ([unix socket]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Tue, 06 > > Aug 2002 14:02:40 -0500 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9C46DCD5 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 > > 14:02:39 -0500 (CDT) > > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > > Received: from eforward2.enom.com (eforward2.enom.com [66.150.5.58]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7B76DCC8 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 > > 14:02:39 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net > > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward2.enom.com with Microsoft > > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > > Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:02:44 -0700 > > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] > > helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim > > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > > id 17c9Zr-0006fj-00; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:01:07 -0700 > > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:00:16 -0700 > > From: boa...@li... > > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #232 - 1 msg > > Reply-To: boa...@li... > > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > Content-type: text/plain > > To: boa...@li... > > Sender: boa...@li... > > Errors-To: boa...@li... > > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > > Precedence: bulk > > List-Help: > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=help> > > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > > List-Subscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=subscribe> > > List-Id: Help and discussion > > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > > List-Unsubscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=unsubscribe> > > List-Archive: > > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=boa-constructor-users> > > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2002 19:02:44.0186 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[D878C3A0:01C23D7B] > > > > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > > boa...@li... > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > boa...@li... > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > boa...@li... > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > > To: boa...@li... > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:33:47 -0500 (CDT) > > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > --_----------=_10285760273390 > > Content-Description: Notification > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > > > The Postfix program > > > > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_10285760273390 > > Content-Description: Delivery error report > > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 7:33 PM > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.0.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_10285760273390 > > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > > > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Mon, > > 05 Aug 2002 14:01:51 -0500 > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Mon, 05 > > Aug 2002 14:01:52 -0500 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1186DC2B > > for <jas...@fa...>; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 > > 14:01:51 -0500 (CDT) > > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > > Received: from eforward1.enom.com (eforward1.enom.com [66.150.5.56]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B6F6DBE2 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 > > 14:01:51 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net > > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward1.enom.com with Microsoft > > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > > Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:01:55 -0700 > > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] > > helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim > > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > > id 17bn6O-0003MZ-00; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:01:12 -0700 > > Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:00:18 -0700 > > From: boa...@li... > > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #231 - 3 msgs > > Reply-To: boa...@li... > > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > Content-type: text/plain > > To: boa...@li... > > Sender: boa...@li... > > Errors-To: boa...@li... > > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > > Precedence: bulk > > List-Help: > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=help> > > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > > List-Subscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=subscribe> > > List-Id: Help and discussion > > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > > List-Unsubscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=unsubscribe> > > List-Archive: > > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=boa-constructor-users> > > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 19:01:55.0964 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[9150EBC0:01C23CB2] > > > > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > > boa...@li... > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > boa...@li... > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > boa...@li... > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > > 2. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > > 3. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > > To: boa...@li... > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:36:37 -0500 (CDT) > > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > --_----------=_1028561797115112 > > Content-Description: Notification > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > > > The Postfix program > > > > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028561797115112 > > Content-Description: Delivery error report > > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 3:36 PM > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.0.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028561797115112 > > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > > > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Sat, > > 03 Aug 2002 14:01:43 -0500 > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Sat, 03 > > Aug 2002 14:01:44 -0500 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D966DC08 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 > > 14:01:44 -0500 (CDT) > > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > > Received: from eforward2.enom.com (eforward2.enom.com [66.150.5.58]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006636DBFC > > for <jas...@fa...>; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 > > 14:01:44 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net > > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward2.enom.com with Microsoft > > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > > Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:01:48 -0700 > > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] > > helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim > > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > > id 17b49D-00026K-00; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 12:01:07 -0700 > > Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 12:00:22 -0700 > > From: boa...@li... > > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #230 - 1 msg > > Reply-To: boa...@li... > > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > Content-type: text/plain > > To: boa...@li... > > Sender: boa...@li... > > Errors-To: boa...@li... > > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > > Precedence: bulk > > List-Help: > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=help> > > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > > List-Subscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=subscribe> > > List-Id: Help and discussion > > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > > List-Unsubscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=unsubscribe> > > List-Archive: > > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=boa-constructor-users> > > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2002 19:01:48.0874 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[384392A0:01C23B20] > > > > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > > boa...@li... > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > boa...@li... > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > boa...@li... > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: running applications (Yuppie) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 19:10:00 +0200 > > From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> > > To: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za>, > > boa...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications > > > > Hi Riaan! > > > > Riaan Booysen wrote: > > > Does it just temporarily change the Python Path and Environment of > > > the debugged process? > > > > You may select different settings for each project/file. Debugging a > > file, WingIDE uses temporarily these settings. > > > > > Why would you need to have a different python path when you are > > > debugging than the one you use when running normally? > > > > I don't need that either. That's just the way WingIDE does > > it. I'd like > > to use the same settings for debugging and running. > > > > > It's not there because I have never needed this. > > > Possibly Shane did not need it either. > > > > > > Is it really that useful? > > > > Here's my use case: > > > > I want to use the IDE for Zope product development. Running tests > > against different Zope versions, I need to change a lot of > > environment > > settings: > > - pythonInterpreter > > - Zope path > > - environment variables like INSTANCE_HOME > > > > To change these settings, I have to change > > - pythonInterpreterPath in Preferences > > - sys.path in my python script > > - os.environ in my python script > > > > But these settings don't belong in the code. They are different for > > different workstations and testing scenarios. > > > > I'm dreaming of a feature that allows me working this way: > > 1. setting pythonInterpreter, paths, environment variables > > 2. run tests / debug using these settings > > 3. saving settings in a file like zope251.env > > 4. modifying my settings, run tests / debug again > > 5. saving settings in a file like zope260.env > > 6. working on my code > > 7. loading zope251.env > > 8. ... > > > > But I don't have much experience in python product development. So > > perhaps I should do it in a totally different way? > > > > > > Thanks again. And thanks to Ris for his reply. > > > > Yuppie > > > > > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > > Boa...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > > > > > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest > > > > > > --_----------=_1028561797115112-- > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > > To: boa...@li... > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:39:09 -0500 (CDT) > > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120050 > > Content-Description: Notification > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > > > The Postfix program > > > > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120050 > > Content-Description: Delivery error report > > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 3:39 PM > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.0.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120050 > > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > > > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Thu, > > 01 Aug 2002 14:24:48 -0500 > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Thu, 01 > > Aug 2002 14:24:49 -0500 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476096DA45 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 > > 14:24:49 -0500 (CDT) > > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > > Received: from eforward1.enom.com (eforward1.enom.com [66.150.5.56]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919096DA2F > > for <jas...@fa...>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 > > 14:24:48 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net > > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward1.enom.com with Microsoft > > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > > Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:24:53 -0700 > > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] > > helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim > > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > > id 17aLYF-0003EF-00; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:23:59 -0700 > > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:17:42 -0700 > > From: boa...@li... > > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #228 - 2 msgs > > Reply-To: boa...@li... > > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > Content-type: text/plain > > To: boa...@li... > > Sender: boa...@li... > > Errors-To: boa...@li... > > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > > Precedence: bulk > > List-Help: > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=help> > > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > > List-Subscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=subscribe> > > List-Id: Help and discussion > > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > > List-Unsubscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=unsubscribe> > > List-Archive: > > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=boa-constructor-users> > > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 19:24:53.0751 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[1CE38870:01C23991] > > > > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > > boa...@li... > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > boa...@li... > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > boa...@li... > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: running applications (Misner, Ris) > > 2. Re: running applications (Riaan Booysen) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications > > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:50:47 -0400 > > From: "Misner, Ris" <rm...@ac...> > > To: <boa...@li...> > > > > > By default applications use the same sys.path settings as > > Boa itself. = > > If=20 > > > I want to run my app using modules located in other paths - > > how would = > > I=20 > > > do that? > > > > It depends on these "other paths" and how they are used... > > > > On my system (WinXP / Python 2.2) Boa executes the script > > pointed to by = > > the PYTHONSTART environment variable. In my case, I have set up a = > > script called PythonStart.py in my home folder and set = > > PYTHONSTART=3DX:\PythonStart.py. In my PythonStart module, I import = > > sys, and call sys.path.append() for all the python module > > paths I want = > > to use. I find this is a good way to set up paths for my local = > > workstation, particularly to modules I have written to do > > specialized = > > shell-only functions that I used for experimentation and > > introspection. = > > But of course this method doesn't work if you need to set up > > these paths = > > for your application to run on somebody else's workstation. > > > > If these paths are dependant on your application rather than your = > > workstation, then you could just do some sys.path.append() > > calls at the = > > beginning of your application's main module. Then every time > > you run = > > it, it will set up the appropriate path. If these paths are > > relative to = > > your main application's directory, you can use code like this: > > > > in main.py: > > ------------------ > > import os > > import main as thismodule > > sThisFilePath =3D thismodule.__file__ > > sThisFileDir =3D os.path.split(sThisFilePath)[0] > > sPathToAdd =3D os.path.join(sThisFileDir, "MySubDir") > > os.path.append(sPathToAdd) > > -----end main.py------ > > > > However, if you are just trying to import or execute modules located = > > under your project directory tree, then you should consider > > setting up = > > your project as a python package. All you have to do is > > create an empty = > > file in each directory and subdirectory of your project and name it = > > __init__.py and it will cause the local directory (and all > > those in the = > > tree that have an __init__.py file) to be searched for > > modules before = > > the standard python path is searched. That way if you have a local = > > module in your project that has the same name as another > > module in the = > > sys.path, your local module is what will be loaded. You can > > read more = > > about packages on the python website. They explain it better than I = > > can. > > > > In windows, there is also a PYTHONPATH environment variable, > > which you = > > can try changing. I have not had any success changing it so I don't = > > think it is actually supported, but then maybe there was some other = > > problem going on that I didn't notice. Again, this is only for = > > workstation-specific paths. If you need your application to > > have access = > > to the directories in question when it is run on another > > machine, then = > > you can't use this method. > > > > I'm pretty new to Python so maybe somebody else has better > > ideas? Hope = > > this helped anyway... > > > > -Ris > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:08:31 +0200 > > From: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za> > > To: Yuppie <sc...@we...>, > > Boa list <boa...@li...> > > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications > > > > Hi Yuppie, > > > > Yuppie wrote: > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > By default applications use the same sys.path settings as > > Boa itself. If > > > I want to run my app using modules located in other paths - > > how would I > > > do that? > > > > When you run a module in Boa, it is not executed in Boa's process, so > > it knows nothing about Boa's sys.path. Also it is executed with the > > current directory being the directory where the script (or the > > application module) is saved. > > > > If your application needs to access any special paths, you > > have to add > > that logic to your code, just like you would have to without Boa. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Yuppie > > > > HTH, > > Riaan. > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > > Boa...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > > > > > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest > > > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120050-- > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 3 > > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > > To: boa...@li... > > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:39:09 -0500 (CDT) > > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120053 > > Content-Description: Notification > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. > > > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. > > > > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> > > > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > > delete your own text from the message returned below. > > > > The Postfix program > > > > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120053 > > Content-Description: Delivery error report > > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 3:39 PM > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.0.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command > > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120053 > > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > > > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Fri, > > 02 Aug 2002 14:05:16 -0500 > > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Fri, 02 > > Aug 2002 14:05:17 -0500 > > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4181A6DC96 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 > > 14:05:17 -0500 (CDT) > > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > > Received: from eforward3.enom.com (eforward3.enom.com [63.251.83.39]) > > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E606DCB6 > > for <jas...@fa...>; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 > > 14:05:15 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net > > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward3.enom.com with Microsoft > > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > > Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:04:59 -0700 > > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] > > helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim > > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > > id 17ahih-0005KZ-00; Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:04:15 -0700 > > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:01:45 -0700 > > From: boa...@li... > > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #229 - 2 msgs > > Reply-To: boa...@li... > > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > > MIME-version: 1.0 > > Content-type: text/plain > > To: boa...@li... > > Sender: boa...@li... > > Errors-To: boa...@li... > > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > > Precedence: bulk > > List-Help: > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=help> > > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > > List-Subscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > > bject=subscribe> > > List-Id: Help and discussion > > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > > List-Unsubscribe: > > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > > > > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=unsubscribe> > > List-Archive: > > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=boa-constructor-users> > > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 19:05:00.0093 (UTC) > > FILETIME=[7FD386D0:01C23A57] > > > > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > > boa...@li... > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > boa...@li... > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > boa...@li... > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: running applications (Yuppie) > > 2. Re: running applications (Riaan Booysen) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:41:58 +0200 > > From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> > > To: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za>, > > boa...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications > > > > Hi Riaan! > > > > Thanks for the quick response. > > > > Riaan Booysen wrote: > > > HTH, > > > > Well, not really. I'm not sure if my question is boa related or a > > general newbie question. But WingIDE has some of the features I was > > looking for in Boa and couldn't find. So I'll try to re-formulate my > > question: > > > > Riaan Booysen wrote: > > > If your application needs to access any special paths, you > > have to add > > > that logic to your code, just like you would have to without Boa. > > > > Without Boa I can also set paths (environment variables like > > PYTHONPATH) > > in a start script. Using WingIDE I have a lot of options > > (properties) to > > set the environment for debugging (not running) files. Most of them I > > couldn't find in Boa. A short comparison: > > > > > > WingIDE -- Boa Constructor > > > > Run Arguments -- File > Set command-line parameters > > Python Executable -- Preferences > General > pythonInterpreterPath > > Python Path -- ? > > Run Directory -- ? > > Environment -- ? > > > > > > I hope you can give me an answer like one of these: > > > > ( ) Boa has the same features. Just look ...(?) > > > > ( ) Boa doesn't have these features by design. If you want to > > set your > > environment for debugging/running files, just do ...(?) > > > > ( ) What do you expect? This is still alpha. The features you are > > talking about may be added in a future release. But there's a > > workaround: ... (?) > > > > ( ) This is a general python question. Please ask on a python list. > > > > > > TIA! > > > > Yuppie > > > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 00:35:53 +0200 > > From: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za> > > To: Yuppie <sc...@we...> > > CC: boa...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications > > > > Hello Yuppie, > > > > Yuppie wrote: > > > > > WingIDE -- Boa Constructor > > > > > > Run Arguments -- File > Set command-line parameters > > > Python Executable -- Preferences > General > pythonInterpreterPath > > > Python Path -- ? > > > Run Directory -- ? > > > > The run directory of the script/application > > that you run or debug. > > > > > Environment -- ? > > > > > > I hope you can give me an answer like one of these: > > > > > ( ) Boa doesn't have these features by design. If you want > > to set your > > > environment for debugging/running files, just do ...(?) > > > > It's not there because I have never needed this. > > Possibly Shane did not need it either. > > > > Is it really that useful? > > > > Does it just temporarily change the Python Path and Environment of > > the debugged process? > > > > Why would you need to have a different python path when you are > > debugging than the one you use when running normally? > > > > Cheers, > > Riaan. > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > > Boa...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > > > > > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest > > > > > > --_----------=_1028561949120053-- > > > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > > Boa...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > > > > > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest > > > > > > --_----------=_10285760273390-- > > > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > > Boa...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > > > > > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest > > > > > > --_----------=_1028722186219664-- > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > > Boa...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > > > > > > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users |
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From: Misner, R. <rm...@ac...> - 2002-08-07 14:04:37
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Could the administrator of this list please do something about these = undeliverable mail messages? I've been getting them as part of the list = digest every day for over a week. The problem is not going to resolve = itself without interference because each undeliverable mail message is = distributed to the entire list, including to the undeliverable address, = which causes another undeliverable mail message, and so on... It seems = to me that the best solution is to prevent "undeliverable mail" and = other similar error message replies from being distributed to the entire = list. Alternately, the administrator could remove the erroneous address = from the list and it will stop the problem until the next time. > -----Original Message----- > From: boa...@li... > [mailto:boa...@li...]On Behalf Of > boa...@li... > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:10 AM > To: boa...@li... > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #233 - 1 msg >=20 >=20 > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > boa...@li... >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =09 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boa...@li... >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > boa...@li... >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 1 > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > To: boa...@li... > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:09:47 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028722186219664 > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain >=20 > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. >=20 > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. >=20 > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> >=20 > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. >=20 > The Postfix program >=20 > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028722186219664 > Content-Description: Delivery error report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status >=20 > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > Arrival-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:09 PM >=20 > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028722186219664 > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 >=20 > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Tue,=20 > 06 Aug 2002 14:02:39 -0500 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm ([unix socket]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Tue, 06=20 > Aug 2002 14:02:40 -0500 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9C46DCD5 > for <jas...@fa...>; Tue, 6 Aug 2002=20 > 14:02:39 -0500 (CDT) > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > Received: from eforward2.enom.com (eforward2.enom.com [66.150.5.58]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7B76DCC8 > for <jas...@fa...>; Tue, 6 Aug 2002=20 > 14:02:39 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net=20 > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward2.enom.com with Microsoft=20 > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:02:44 -0700 > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13]=20 > helo=3Dusw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim=20 > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > id 17c9Zr-0006fj-00; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:01:07 -0700 > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:00:16 -0700 > From: boa...@li... > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #232 - 1 msg > Reply-To: boa...@li... > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain > To: boa...@li... > Sender: boa...@li... > Errors-To: boa...@li... > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > Precedence: bulk > List-Help:=20 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dhelp> > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > List-Subscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dsubscribe> > List-Id: Help and discussion=20 > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > List-Unsubscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su bject=3Dunsubscribe> > List-Archive:=20 > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=3Dboa-constructor-users> > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2002 19:02:44.0186 (UTC)=20 > FILETIME=3D[D878C3A0:01C23D7B] >=20 > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > boa...@li... >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =09 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boa...@li... >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > boa...@li... >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) >=20 > -- __--__--=20 >=20 > Message: 1 > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > To: boa...@li... > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:33:47 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > --_----------=3D_10285760273390 > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain >=20 > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. >=20 > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. >=20 > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> >=20 > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. >=20 > The Postfix program >=20 > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_10285760273390 > Content-Description: Delivery error report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status >=20 > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 7:33 PM >=20 > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_10285760273390 > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 >=20 > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Mon,=20 > 05 Aug 2002 14:01:51 -0500 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Mon, 05=20 > Aug 2002 14:01:52 -0500 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1186DC2B > for <jas...@fa...>; Mon, 5 Aug 2002=20 > 14:01:51 -0500 (CDT) > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > Received: from eforward1.enom.com (eforward1.enom.com [66.150.5.56]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B6F6DBE2 > for <jas...@fa...>; Mon, 5 Aug 2002=20 > 14:01:51 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net=20 > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward1.enom.com with Microsoft=20 > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:01:55 -0700 > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13]=20 > helo=3Dusw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim=20 > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > id 17bn6O-0003MZ-00; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:01:12 -0700 > Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:00:18 -0700 > From: boa...@li... > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #231 - 3 msgs > Reply-To: boa...@li... > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain > To: boa...@li... > Sender: boa...@li... > Errors-To: boa...@li... > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > Precedence: bulk > List-Help:=20 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dhelp> > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > List-Subscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dsubscribe> > List-Id: Help and discussion=20 > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > List-Unsubscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su bject=3Dunsubscribe> > List-Archive:=20 > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=3Dboa-constructor-users> > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 19:01:55.0964 (UTC)=20 > FILETIME=3D[9150EBC0:01C23CB2] >=20 > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > boa...@li... >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =09 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boa...@li... >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > boa...@li... >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > 2. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) > 3. Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (Mail Delivery System) >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 1 > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > To: boa...@li... > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:36:37 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561797115112 > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain >=20 > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. >=20 > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. >=20 > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> >=20 > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. >=20 > The Postfix program >=20 > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561797115112 > Content-Description: Delivery error report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status >=20 > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 3:36 PM >=20 > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561797115112 > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 >=20 > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Sat,=20 > 03 Aug 2002 14:01:43 -0500 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Sat, 03=20 > Aug 2002 14:01:44 -0500 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D966DC08 > for <jas...@fa...>; Sat, 3 Aug 2002=20 > 14:01:44 -0500 (CDT) > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > Received: from eforward2.enom.com (eforward2.enom.com [66.150.5.58]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006636DBFC > for <jas...@fa...>; Sat, 3 Aug 2002=20 > 14:01:44 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net=20 > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward2.enom.com with Microsoft=20 > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:01:48 -0700 > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13]=20 > helo=3Dusw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim=20 > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > id 17b49D-00026K-00; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 12:01:07 -0700 > Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 12:00:22 -0700 > From: boa...@li... > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #230 - 1 msg > Reply-To: boa...@li... > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain > To: boa...@li... > Sender: boa...@li... > Errors-To: boa...@li... > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > Precedence: bulk > List-Help:=20 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dhelp> > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > List-Subscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dsubscribe> > List-Id: Help and discussion=20 > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > List-Unsubscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su bject=3Dunsubscribe> > List-Archive:=20 > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=3Dboa-constructor-users> > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2002 19:01:48.0874 (UTC)=20 > FILETIME=3D[384392A0:01C23B20] >=20 > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > boa...@li... >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =09 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boa...@li... >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > boa...@li... >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: running applications (Yuppie) >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 19:10:00 +0200 > From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> > To: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za>,=20 > boa...@li... > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications >=20 > Hi Riaan! >=20 > Riaan Booysen wrote: > > Does it just temporarily change the Python Path and Environment of=20 > > the debugged process? >=20 > You may select different settings for each project/file. Debugging a=20 > file, WingIDE uses temporarily these settings. >=20 > > Why would you need to have a different python path when you are=20 > > debugging than the one you use when running normally? >=20 > I don't need that either. That's just the way WingIDE does=20 > it. I'd like=20 > to use the same settings for debugging and running. >=20 > > It's not there because I have never needed this. > > Possibly Shane did not need it either. > >=20 > > Is it really that useful?=20 >=20 > Here's my use case: >=20 > I want to use the IDE for Zope product development. Running tests=20 > against different Zope versions, I need to change a lot of=20 > environment=20 > settings: > - pythonInterpreter > - Zope path > - environment variables like INSTANCE_HOME >=20 > To change these settings, I have to change > - pythonInterpreterPath in Preferences > - sys.path in my python script > - os.environ in my python script >=20 > But these settings don't belong in the code. They are different for=20 > different workstations and testing scenarios. >=20 > I'm dreaming of a feature that allows me working this way: > 1. setting pythonInterpreter, paths, environment variables > 2. run tests / debug using these settings > 3. saving settings in a file like zope251.env > 4. modifying my settings, run tests / debug again > 5. saving settings in a file like zope260.env > 6. working on my code > 7. loading zope251.env > 8. ... >=20 > But I don't have much experience in python product development. So=20 > perhaps I should do it in a totally different way? >=20 >=20 > Thanks again. And thanks to Ris for his reply. >=20 > Yuppie >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users >=20 >=20 > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest >=20 >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561797115112-- >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 2 > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > To: boa...@li... > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:39:09 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561949120050 > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain >=20 > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. >=20 > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. >=20 > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> >=20 > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the message returned below. >=20 > The Postfix program >=20 > <jas...@fa...>: data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561949120050 > Content-Description: Delivery error report > Content-Type: message/delivery-status >=20 > Reporting-MTA: dns; fastmail.fm > Arrival-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 3:39 PM >=20 > Final-Recipient: rfc822; jas...@fa... > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command=20 > output: jasonstracner: Mailbox does not exist >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561949120050 > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 >=20 > Return-Path: <boa...@li...> > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.5) with LMTP; Thu,=20 > 01 Aug 2002 14:24:48 -0500 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (server1.internal [10.202.2.132]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.3) with LMTP; Thu, 01=20 > Aug 2002 14:24:49 -0500 > Received: from www.fastmail.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476096DA45 > for <jas...@fa...>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002=20 > 14:24:49 -0500 (CDT) > X-Mail-from: boa...@li... > X-Delivered-to: <jas...@fa...> > Received: from eforward1.enom.com (eforward1.enom.com [66.150.5.56]) > by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919096DA2F > for <jas...@fa...>; Thu, 1 Aug 2002=20 > 14:24:48 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net=20 > ([216.136.171.252]) by eforward1.enom.com with Microsoft=20 > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); > Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:24:53 -0700 > Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13]=20 > helo=3Dusw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) > by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim=20 > 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) > id 17aLYF-0003EF-00; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:23:59 -0700 > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:17:42 -0700 > From: boa...@li... > Subject: Boa-constructor-users digest, Vol 1 #228 - 2 msgs > Reply-To: boa...@li... > X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.9-sf.net > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain > To: boa...@li... > Sender: boa...@li... > Errors-To: boa...@li... > X-BeenThere: boa...@li... > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net > Precedence: bulk > List-Help:=20 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dhelp> > List-Post: <mailto:boa...@li...> > List-Subscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su > bject=3Dsubscribe> > List-Id: Help and discussion=20 > <boa-constructor-users.lists.sourceforge.net> > List-Unsubscribe:=20 > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users>, > =09 > <mailto:boa...@li...?su bject=3Dunsubscribe> > List-Archive:=20 > <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=3Dboa-constructor-users> > Message-Id: <E17...@us...> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 19:24:53.0751 (UTC)=20 > FILETIME=3D[1CE38870:01C23991] >=20 > Send Boa-constructor-users mailing list submissions to > boa...@li... >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =09 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > boa...@li... >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > boa...@li... >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Boa-constructor-users digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Re: running applications (Misner, Ris) > 2. Re: running applications (Riaan Booysen) >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 1 > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:50:47 -0400 > From: "Misner, Ris" <rm...@ac...> > To: <boa...@li...> >=20 > > By default applications use the same sys.path settings as=20 > Boa itself. =3D > If=3D20 > > I want to run my app using modules located in other paths -=20 > how would =3D > I=3D20 > > do that? >=20 > It depends on these "other paths" and how they are used... >=20 > On my system (WinXP / Python 2.2) Boa executes the script=20 > pointed to by =3D > the PYTHONSTART environment variable. In my case, I have set up a =3D > script called PythonStart.py in my home folder and set =3D > PYTHONSTART=3D3DX:\PythonStart.py. In my PythonStart module, I import = =3D > sys, and call sys.path.append() for all the python module=20 > paths I want =3D > to use. I find this is a good way to set up paths for my local =3D > workstation, particularly to modules I have written to do=20 > specialized =3D > shell-only functions that I used for experimentation and=20 > introspection. =3D > But of course this method doesn't work if you need to set up=20 > these paths =3D > for your application to run on somebody else's workstation. >=20 > If these paths are dependant on your application rather than your =3D > workstation, then you could just do some sys.path.append()=20 > calls at the =3D > beginning of your application's main module. Then every time=20 > you run =3D > it, it will set up the appropriate path. If these paths are=20 > relative to =3D > your main application's directory, you can use code like this: >=20 > in main.py: > ------------------ > import os > import main as thismodule > sThisFilePath =3D3D thismodule.__file__ > sThisFileDir =3D3D os.path.split(sThisFilePath)[0] > sPathToAdd =3D3D os.path.join(sThisFileDir, "MySubDir") > os.path.append(sPathToAdd) > -----end main.py------ >=20 > However, if you are just trying to import or execute modules located = =3D > under your project directory tree, then you should consider=20 > setting up =3D > your project as a python package. All you have to do is=20 > create an empty =3D > file in each directory and subdirectory of your project and name it = =3D > __init__.py and it will cause the local directory (and all=20 > those in the =3D > tree that have an __init__.py file) to be searched for=20 > modules before =3D > the standard python path is searched. That way if you have a local = =3D > module in your project that has the same name as another=20 > module in the =3D > sys.path, your local module is what will be loaded. You can=20 > read more =3D > about packages on the python website. They explain it better than I = =3D > can. >=20 > In windows, there is also a PYTHONPATH environment variable,=20 > which you =3D > can try changing. I have not had any success changing it so I don't = =3D > think it is actually supported, but then maybe there was some other = =3D > problem going on that I didn't notice. Again, this is only for =3D > workstation-specific paths. If you need your application to=20 > have access =3D > to the directories in question when it is run on another=20 > machine, then =3D > you can't use this method. >=20 > I'm pretty new to Python so maybe somebody else has better=20 > ideas? Hope =3D > this helped anyway... >=20 > -Ris >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:08:31 +0200 > From: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za> > To: Yuppie <sc...@we...>, > Boa list <boa...@li...> > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications >=20 > Hi Yuppie, >=20 > Yuppie wrote: > >=20 > > Hi! > >=20 > > By default applications use the same sys.path settings as=20 > Boa itself. If > > I want to run my app using modules located in other paths -=20 > how would I > > do that? >=20 > When you run a module in Boa, it is not executed in Boa's process, so=20 > it knows nothing about Boa's sys.path. Also it is executed with the=20 > current directory being the directory where the script (or the=20 > application module) is saved. >=20 > If your application needs to access any special paths, you=20 > have to add=20 > that logic to your code, just like you would have to without Boa. >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks! > >=20 > > Yuppie >=20 > HTH, > Riaan. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users >=20 >=20 > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest >=20 >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561949120050-- >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 3 > From: "Mail Delivery System" <MAI...@fa...> > To: boa...@li... > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:39:09 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: [Boa Constr] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561949120053 > Content-Description: Notification > Content-Type: text/plain >=20 > This is the Postfix program at host fastmail.fm. >=20 > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. >=20 > For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> >=20 > If you do so, please include this problem report. 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Re: running applications (Yuppie) > 2. Re: running applications (Riaan Booysen) >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:41:58 +0200 > From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> > To: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za>,=20 > boa...@li... > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications >=20 > Hi Riaan! >=20 > Thanks for the quick response. >=20 > Riaan Booysen wrote: > > HTH, >=20 > Well, not really. I'm not sure if my question is boa related or a=20 > general newbie question. But WingIDE has some of the features I was=20 > looking for in Boa and couldn't find. So I'll try to re-formulate my=20 > question: >=20 > Riaan Booysen wrote: > > If your application needs to access any special paths, you=20 > have to add=20 > > that logic to your code, just like you would have to without Boa. >=20 > Without Boa I can also set paths (environment variables like=20 > PYTHONPATH)=20 > in a start script. Using WingIDE I have a lot of options=20 > (properties) to=20 > set the environment for debugging (not running) files. Most of them I=20 > couldn't find in Boa. A short comparison: >=20 >=20 > WingIDE -- Boa Constructor >=20 > Run Arguments -- File > Set command-line parameters > Python Executable -- Preferences > General > pythonInterpreterPath > Python Path -- ? > Run Directory -- ? > Environment -- ? >=20 >=20 > I hope you can give me an answer like one of these: >=20 > ( ) Boa has the same features. Just look ...(?) >=20 > ( ) Boa doesn't have these features by design. If you want to=20 > set your=20 > environment for debugging/running files, just do ...(?) >=20 > ( ) What do you expect? This is still alpha. The features you are=20 > talking about may be added in a future release. But there's a=20 > workaround: ... (?) >=20 > ( ) This is a general python question. Please ask on a python list. >=20 >=20 > TIA! >=20 > Yuppie >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 00:35:53 +0200 > From: Riaan Booysen <riaan@e.co.za> > To: Yuppie <sc...@we...> > CC: boa...@li... > Subject: Re: [Boa Constr] running applications >=20 > Hello Yuppie, >=20 > Yuppie wrote: >=20 > > WingIDE -- Boa Constructor > >=20 > > Run Arguments -- File > Set command-line parameters > > Python Executable -- Preferences > General > pythonInterpreterPath > > Python Path -- ? > > Run Directory -- ? >=20 > The run directory of the script/application=20 > that you run or debug. >=20 > > Environment -- ? > >=20 > > I hope you can give me an answer like one of these: >=20 > > ( ) Boa doesn't have these features by design. If you want=20 > to set your > > environment for debugging/running files, just do ...(?) >=20 > It's not there because I have never needed this. > Possibly Shane did not need it either. >=20 > Is it really that useful?=20 >=20 > Does it just temporarily change the Python Path and Environment of=20 > the debugged process? >=20 > Why would you need to have a different python path when you are=20 > debugging than the one you use when running normally? >=20 > Cheers,=20 > Riaan. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users >=20 >=20 > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest >=20 >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028561949120053-- >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users >=20 >=20 > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest >=20 >=20 > --_----------=3D_10285760273390-- >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __--__--=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users >=20 >=20 > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest >=20 >=20 > --_----------=3D_1028722186219664-- >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users >=20 >=20 > End of Boa-constructor-users Digest >=20 |
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From: Christian T. <ti...@ti...> - 2002-08-07 13:32:16
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Hi Riaan, I'm using Boa all the time since a couple of weeks for a larger project. Today I did a CVS update, and now Boa cannot start any longer. The is a function "getIndentBlock" missing from utils.py . Can it be that you forgot to commit utils.py to CVS? thanks - chris p.s.: I'm using wxPython with Stackless - works great! -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:ti...@ti...> Mission Impossible 5oftware : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9a : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ work +49 30 89 09 53 34 home +49 30 802 86 56 pager +49 173 24 18 776 PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/ |
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From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> - 2002-08-03 17:15:11
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Hi Riaan! Riaan Booysen wrote: > Does it just temporarily change the Python Path and Environment of > the debugged process? You may select different settings for each project/file. Debugging a file, WingIDE uses temporarily these settings. > Why would you need to have a different python path when you are > debugging than the one you use when running normally? I don't need that either. That's just the way WingIDE does it. I'd like to use the same settings for debugging and running. > It's not there because I have never needed this. > Possibly Shane did not need it either. > > Is it really that useful? Here's my use case: I want to use the IDE for Zope product development. Running tests against different Zope versions, I need to change a lot of environment settings: - pythonInterpreter - Zope path - environment variables like INSTANCE_HOME To change these settings, I have to change - pythonInterpreterPath in Preferences - sys.path in my python script - os.environ in my python script But these settings don't belong in the code. They are different for different workstations and testing scenarios. I'm dreaming of a feature that allows me working this way: 1. setting pythonInterpreter, paths, environment variables 2. run tests / debug using these settings 3. saving settings in a file like zope251.env 4. modifying my settings, run tests / debug again 5. saving settings in a file like zope260.env 6. working on my code 7. loading zope251.env 8. ... But I don't have much experience in python product development. So perhaps I should do it in a totally different way? Thanks again. And thanks to Ris for his reply. Yuppie |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-08-01 22:33:03
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Hello Yuppie,
Yuppie wrote:
> WingIDE -- Boa Constructor
>
> Run Arguments -- File > Set command-line parameters
> Python Executable -- Preferences > General > pythonInterpreterPath
> Python Path -- ?
> Run Directory -- ?
The run directory of the script/application
that you run or debug.
> Environment -- ?
>
> I hope you can give me an answer like one of these:
> ( ) Boa doesn't have these features by design. If you want to set your
> environment for debugging/running files, just do ...(?)
It's not there because I have never needed this.
Possibly Shane did not need it either.
Is it really that useful?
Does it just temporarily change the Python Path and Environment of
the debugged process?
Why would you need to have a different python path when you are
debugging than the one you use when running normally?
Cheers,
Riaan.
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From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> - 2002-08-01 20:49:52
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Hi Riaan! Thanks for the quick response. Riaan Booysen wrote: > HTH, Well, not really. I'm not sure if my question is boa related or a general newbie question. But WingIDE has some of the features I was looking for in Boa and couldn't find. So I'll try to re-formulate my question: Riaan Booysen wrote: > If your application needs to access any special paths, you have to add > that logic to your code, just like you would have to without Boa. Without Boa I can also set paths (environment variables like PYTHONPATH) in a start script. Using WingIDE I have a lot of options (properties) to set the environment for debugging (not running) files. Most of them I couldn't find in Boa. A short comparison: WingIDE -- Boa Constructor Run Arguments -- File > Set command-line parameters Python Executable -- Preferences > General > pythonInterpreterPath Python Path -- ? Run Directory -- ? Environment -- ? I hope you can give me an answer like one of these: ( ) Boa has the same features. Just look ...(?) ( ) Boa doesn't have these features by design. If you want to set your environment for debugging/running files, just do ...(?) ( ) What do you expect? This is still alpha. The features you are talking about may be added in a future release. But there's a workaround: ... (?) ( ) This is a general python question. Please ask on a python list. TIA! Yuppie |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-07-31 21:06:05
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Hi Yuppie, Yuppie wrote: > > Hi! > > By default applications use the same sys.path settings as Boa itself. If > I want to run my app using modules located in other paths - how would I > do that? When you run a module in Boa, it is not executed in Boa's process, so it knows nothing about Boa's sys.path. Also it is executed with the current directory being the directory where the script (or the application module) is saved. If your application needs to access any special paths, you have to add that logic to your code, just like you would have to without Boa. > > Thanks! > > Yuppie HTH, Riaan. |
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From: Misner, R. <rm...@ac...> - 2002-07-31 20:50:59
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> By default applications use the same sys.path settings as Boa itself. = If=20 > I want to run my app using modules located in other paths - how would = I=20 > do that? It depends on these "other paths" and how they are used... On my system (WinXP / Python 2.2) Boa executes the script pointed to by = the PYTHONSTART environment variable. In my case, I have set up a = script called PythonStart.py in my home folder and set = PYTHONSTART=3DX:\PythonStart.py. In my PythonStart module, I import = sys, and call sys.path.append() for all the python module paths I want = to use. I find this is a good way to set up paths for my local = workstation, particularly to modules I have written to do specialized = shell-only functions that I used for experimentation and introspection. = But of course this method doesn't work if you need to set up these paths = for your application to run on somebody else's workstation. If these paths are dependant on your application rather than your = workstation, then you could just do some sys.path.append() calls at the = beginning of your application's main module. Then every time you run = it, it will set up the appropriate path. If these paths are relative to = your main application's directory, you can use code like this: in main.py: ------------------ import os import main as thismodule sThisFilePath =3D thismodule.__file__ sThisFileDir =3D os.path.split(sThisFilePath)[0] sPathToAdd =3D os.path.join(sThisFileDir, "MySubDir") os.path.append(sPathToAdd) -----end main.py------ However, if you are just trying to import or execute modules located = under your project directory tree, then you should consider setting up = your project as a python package. All you have to do is create an empty = file in each directory and subdirectory of your project and name it = __init__.py and it will cause the local directory (and all those in the = tree that have an __init__.py file) to be searched for modules before = the standard python path is searched. That way if you have a local = module in your project that has the same name as another module in the = sys.path, your local module is what will be loaded. You can read more = about packages on the python website. They explain it better than I = can. In windows, there is also a PYTHONPATH environment variable, which you = can try changing. I have not had any success changing it so I don't = think it is actually supported, but then maybe there was some other = problem going on that I didn't notice. Again, this is only for = workstation-specific paths. If you need your application to have access = to the directories in question when it is run on another machine, then = you can't use this method. I'm pretty new to Python so maybe somebody else has better ideas? Hope = this helped anyway... -Ris |
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From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> - 2002-07-31 17:28:51
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Hi! By default applications use the same sys.path settings as Boa itself. If I want to run my app using modules located in other paths - how would I do that? Thanks! Yuppie |
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From: rboulanger <ro...@bl...> - 2002-07-30 15:13:33
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This is no Boa related error. UTF support for ZPT will come with Zope 2.7. Stephan Richter is currently working on a backport from internationalization code from Zope 3. So stay tuned :) -- Robert Boulanger ----------------------------------------- www.bluedynamics.com www.bluedynamics.org |
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From: Yuppie <sc...@we...> - 2002-07-30 13:21:33
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Hi! My environment: Boa 0.1.2a preview, Zope 2.5.1 My problem: I use umlauts (ISO-8859-1 encoding) inside of ZopePageTemplates. If I try to edit them in Boa, I get this error: "UnicodeError: UTF-8 decoding error: invalid data" The xmlrpc response send by Zope is not UTF-8 encoded, xmlrpclib calls the parser for UTF-8 processing. I'm not sure: Is this a bug in Zope, in xmlrpclib, in expat or in Boa? http://www.xmlrpc.com/spec says: "Any characters are allowed in a string except < and &, which are encoded as < and &. A string can be used to encode binary data." So I think the Zope response is correct. Is this a known issue? Are there any workarounds? Thanks! Yuppie BTW: Thanks for Boa! It's great. |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-07-29 19:47:08
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Hi David, David LeBlanc wrote: > > Boa: refreshed from CVS today, 7/27/2002 > > I'm following the tutorial, building the notebook example. > > I don't know how or why, but the menu created has the name of the menu as > not only the text that appears in the menubar, but also as the first item in > the drop-down; i.e, the "File" menu has "File" (followed by a separator) as > the first item. You are confusing menus with menu items. wxMenu has a title property which appears in bold at the top of the menu followed by a separator. The title property used to be default filled in (which is what you see in the tutorial). Usually better to leave blank. > > Any suggestions? To change a menu item label, double click on the wxMenu to bring up the collection editor, add/select an item and edit it's label property. > > TIA, > > David LeBlanc > Seattle, WA USA > Cheers, Riaan. |
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From: David L. <wh...@oz...> - 2002-07-28 10:50:40
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Boa: refreshed from CVS today, 7/27/2002 I'm following the tutorial, building the notebook example. I don't know how or why, but the menu created has the name of the menu as not only the text that appears in the menubar, but also as the first item in the drop-down; i.e, the "File" menu has "File" (followed by a separator) as the first item. Any suggestions? TIA, David LeBlanc Seattle, WA USA |
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From: Riaan B. <riaan@e.co.za> - 2002-07-09 09:29:52
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Hi Angel, Angel Asencio wrote: > > Hi, I have a different spin. > I do not care as much for the Shell Editor, > but the Interactive Shell. > > In our development we handle huge collections > and is annoying to click to find what we are > looking for when you have 1000+ items. > > Is there a way to force a wrap to the Interpreter Shell? > I tryied to find the module that handle the Interpreter Shell > with no luck. I think the newest Scinilla allows something like this, but it's not exposed in Boa yet. You may use the standard lib module called pprint. Like this: >>> from pprint import pprint >>> pprint(big_objects) Cheers, Riaan. |
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From: John B. <jbe...@ya...> - 2002-07-07 07:05:38
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Hi John, I just thought that I'd jump in and offer a bit of meta-advice here. I know that jumping into an area like GUI programming can be a bit daunting if your primary area isn't computer science, and perhaps even more so when you're using Open Source code since this necessarily immerses you in the playpen of us CS types :-) I apologise if any of this advice is redundant to you, but I have no way of knowing exactly what you have and haven't worked out to date. Firstly, let's look at the subject of what list to post any specific question to. The important thing here is to understand that the code generated by Boa runs stand-alone. That is, Boa is not used only in the design process. It is not invoked at run time. Therefore any problem encountered at run time is almost certainly a non-Boa problem and should be directed to the wxPython list. Similarly, any question of the type "How do I get widget XXX to do YYY?" is best directed to the wxPython list. You can be assured that all the "top" wxPython people know Boa and will have no problems understanding your code. A lot more people read the wxPython list including many non-CS types (even some medical researchers :-) ) You should direct questions/grizzles re. code generation and generated code to the Boa list. On the subject of what platform to use, you're really best off with the CVS version of boa, wxPython/Windows 2.3.2.1. Have you got CVS under control yet? I'd advise against working on CVS versions of wxPython/Windows as these are HIGHLY volatile and often introduce new method signatures that Boa won't understand. John --- Robin Dunn <ro...@al...> wrote: > > John Bell gave the correct advice, but > wxShapeCanvas is unfortunately > > an exception to convention of supporting a 'name' > keyword argument. > > > > Just for consistency I wish this could be added to > wxWindows, Robin? > > Done. > > -- > Robin Dunn > Software Craftsman > http://wxPython.org Java give you jitters? Relax > with wxPython! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Got root? We do. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Boa-constructor-users mailing list > Boa...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boa-constructor-users __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com |
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From: Robin D. <ro...@al...> - 2002-07-06 18:35:44
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> John Bell gave the correct advice, but wxShapeCanvas is unfortunately > an exception to convention of supporting a 'name' keyword argument. > > Just for consistency I wish this could be added to wxWindows, Robin? Done. -- Robin Dunn Software Craftsman http://wxPython.org Java give you jitters? Relax with wxPython! |
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From: Steve H. <sh...@ho...> - 2002-07-06 16:01:01
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Riaan Booysen" <riaan@e.co.za>
To: <joh...@om...>
Cc: <boa...@li...>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:15 PM
[ ... ]
>
> > Im sure you are a very busy man and have other things to do than answer
my
> > questions, but I really do appreciate the help getting started. Just
let me
> > know if I am wearing out my welcome. Once I get some basics down, I
think I
> > will be fine.
>
> As a guideline, I would prefer to help with Boa spesific issues.
>
The wxPython mailing list is also helpful, and they have a wxWiki now that
has useful design ideas in it. Try
http://www.wxpython.org/
to start with -- this should let you subscribe to the list if you want, then
http://wiki.wxpython.org
regards
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From: Steve H. <sh...@ho...> - 2002-07-06 15:54:53
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Riaan Booysen" <riaan@e.co.za> To: <joh...@om...> Cc: "Boa," <boa...@li...> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:15 PM > Hello John, > > John Boik wrote: [ ... ] > > I could upgrade to the new CVS > > version, but Im not sure how to do that. I went to the CVS site and I see I > > can download several different modules, but which ones do I want and how do > > I install them in Windows? Do I just copy them over the old folders? > > Learning to use CVS is of value to any developer IMO. > Boa is not released that regularly, so if you need support for the > latest wxPython or new features/fixes then it's up to you to learn CVS. > There's plenty of help on the web and in the Boa application help. > > I do suggest leaving it until you are more familiar with everything. > [ ... ] As a relatively new CVS user, I would point out that simply to *track* the CVS version of a project is relatively simple, and definitely worthwhile for stuff like Boa. If you run Windows I would recommend that you install cygwin, which comes with an up-to-date version of CVS quite good enough for the likes of you or me. An initial checkout (cvs co) of the whole project is easily done -- every SourceForge prject explains how to get the code. Thereafter a periodic "cvs update" will keep you in synch with your project. So I'd recommend that everyone who's been thinking "maybe I'll try the CVS versionm" do so, and start giving Riaan more feedback. He need the encouragement of knowing that people are using his code! [Riaan: You're doing a great job, keep it up!] regards ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/pwp/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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