[bme-develop] Re: bme-develop digest, Vol 1 #90 - 6 msgs

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>    1. bme-develop digest (=?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Grumeau?=)
>    2. Is there something horribly broken in CVS? (Cian Duffy)
>    3. RE: bme-develop digest (Sir Mik)
>    4. RE: Is there something horribly broken in CVS? (Sir Mik)
>    5. RE: Is there something horribly broken in CVS? (Simon Taylor)
>    6. RE: bme-develop digest (Simon Taylor)
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> Message: 1
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Grumeau?= <re...@be...>
> To: <bme...@li...>
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:46:09 +0100
> Subject: [bme-develop] bme-develop digest
> Reply-To: bme...@li...
>
> > > Today's Topics:
> >    1. Webpage (Sir Mik)
> > >
> > > Hey guys,
> > >
> > > just discussed this with Rémi(from BeosFrance)...I think we desperately
> > need
> > > a new homepage for Bme...I want to start with this: ask a friend to do
> the
> > > html and work together with Rémi to program the php as he has offered to
> > > help us with that. But now: what do we need on our homepage? a news
> > section
> > > of course....but what else?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > P.s. Rémi subscribed to this list so we can discuss it with him here!
> > >
>
>
>
> > Hi everybody :)
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >   I fixed the bug you mention, also added the online sorting in the
> > ContactListView and last I modified Common::getMsnBuddy to return a
> > Contact rather than a ContactItem and made the necessary modifications.
> > I've commited these changes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
> >
>
>
>
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > >
> > > I committed the emoticongrid code yesterday...it also includes some
> changes
> > > in the contactlistview! So make sure your new code isn't overridden
> > > by mine.
> > > Also this code may contain some bugs...I'll try to fix these ASAP.
> > > Also status changes aren't changed directly...sometimes (scroll and the
> > > status changes) I'll try to fix this too. But now you can start working
> on
> > > the contactlistview! Hope you commit the sorting fix soon!
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
>
>
>
>
> > Nice work!
> >
> > I updated the emoticongrid view, committed that too...but still needs a
> bit
> > of work...after that I'll have a look at the contact and user
> caching...and
> > fix some other bugs...
> >
> > Btw...welcome to this list Rémi,
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Tim
>
>
>
>
> > >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >   I fixed the bug you mention, also added the online sorting in the
> > >ContactListView and last I modified Common::getMsnBuddy to return a
> > >Contact rather than a ContactItem and made the necessary modifications.
> > >I've commited these changes.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Daniel
> > >
> > > > Hi Daniel,
> > > >
> > > > I committed the emoticongrid code yesterday...it also includes some
> > > > changes in the contactlistview! So make sure your new code isn't
> overridden
> > > > by mine.
> > > > Also this code may contain some bugs...I'll try to fix these ASAP.
> > > > Also status changes aren't changed directly...sometimes (scroll and
> the
> > > > status changes) I'll try to fix this too. But now you can start
> working on
> > > > the contactlistview! Hope you commit the sorting fix soon!
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tim
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim !
>
> Cause it's hard to sleep when you get back from abroad, i have done a short
> picture of a BME website this night at 2am. So it's a 2am work, don't be to
> hard ;) It's a first shot ...
>
> You can see it here: http://www.beosfrance.com/muckups/BME/BME-website01.jpg
>
> Remi
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
> From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
> To: bme...@li...
> Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> Reply-To: bme...@li...
>
> I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean R5,
> with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
> connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
>
> I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 'bad',
> but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
> 113msecs to Google.
>
> One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there an
> issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
>
> I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a look
> at that later on today.
>
> Cian/MYOB
>
>
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> Message: 3
> From: "Sir Mik" <obe...@ho...>
> To: bme...@li...
> Subject: RE: [bme-develop] bme-develop digest
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:20:26 +0100
> Reply-To: bme...@li...
>
> Hey Rémi,
>
> >Cause it's hard to sleep when you get back from abroad, i have done a short
> >picture of a BME website this night at 2am. So it's a 2am work, don't be to
> >hard ;) It's a first shot ...
> >
> >You can see it here:
> >http://www.beosfrance.com/muckups/BME/BME-website01.jpg
> >
> wow! if this is a 2am work for you, I can't wait to see a "normal work", it
> looks fantastic! If you need any help implementing it (php/mysql) just let
> me know! I see you also thought about the available sections:
>
> -News
> -About Bme
> -Screenshots
> -CVS
> -Links
> -Advice and reactions
> -Contact us
>
> I think we also should include a download section ;), where the packages
> will be available...maybe drop the cvs section for that...so we can offer
> packages in the download section and also explain how to download the code
> from cvs, for example:
>
> Downloads:
> ---------------
>
> *Bme_x86_net_server.pkg
> *Bme_x86_BONE.pkg
> *Bme_ppc.pkg
>
> CVS Instructions:
> ----------------------
>
> Bladiebla cvs login...bladiebla cvs download ;)
>
> What do you think?
>
> I really like the advice and reactions section!!! as we surely want to make
> a user friendly app (with emphasis on the USER) we need that advice and
> reactions!  nice!
>
> regards,
>
> Tim
>
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> Message: 4
> From: "Sir Mik" <obe...@ho...>
> To: bme...@li...
> Subject: RE: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:26:20 +0100
> Reply-To: bme...@li...
>
> Very weird!
>
> I'll try building it later...haven't got time now....I must say I mainly use
> the BONE project file...I believe Simon is the only one using the net_server
> file....but he's currently busy working on Firefox....maybe he can try
> building the net_server version, as it doesn't work on BONE
> installations(doesn't login to msn server)
>
> regards,
>
> Tim
>
> >From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
> >Reply-To: bme...@li...
> >To: bme...@li...
> >Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> >Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
> >
> >I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean R5,
> >with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
> >connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
> >
> >I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were 'bad',
> >but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
> >113msecs to Google.
> >
> >One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there an
> >issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
> >
> >I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a look
> >at that later on today.
> >
> >Cian/MYOB
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> To: bme...@li...
> Subject: RE: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> From: "Simon Taylor" <sj...@ca...>
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:36:17 GMT
> Reply-To: bme...@li...
>
> Maybe there are some new changes that cause problems. My personal
> project file is a bit out of sync anyway, with the work-in-progress on
> the emoticons.
>
> Later today I'll try to get a clean CVS and see what happens.
>
> Simon
>
> > Very weird!
> >
> > I'll try building it later...haven't got time now....I must say I
> > mainly use
> > the BONE project file...I believe Simon is the only one using the
> > net_server
> > file....but he's currently busy working on Firefox....maybe he can
> > try
> > building the net_server version, as it doesn't work on BONE
> > installations(doesn't login to msn server)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > >From: Cian Duffy <my...@gm...>
> > >Reply-To: bme...@li...
> > >To: bme...@li...
> > >Subject: [bme-develop] Is there something horribly broken in CVS?
> > >Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:20 +0100
> > >
> > >I compiled off a clean from CVS version a few days ago, on a clean
> > > R5,
> > >with the net_server build of cryptlib, and after the initial
> > >connection attempt, nothing. Dead silence.
> > >
> > >I was on a 2Mbit WAN connection at the time, so latencies were
> > > 'bad',
> > >but still better than DSL on BT in rural areas, from my experience -
> > >113msecs to Google.
> > >
> > >One of the devs should try building clean from CVS to see is there
> > > an
> > >issue, or is my apparently clean R5 somehow dirty...
> > >
> > >I think the compile is broken on Dano again, btw.... I'll take a
> > > look
> > >at that later on today.
> > >
> > >Cian/MYOB
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 6
> To: bme...@li...
> Subject: RE: [bme-develop] bme-develop digest
> From: "Simon Taylor" <sj...@ca...>
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:47:57 GMT
> Reply-To: bme...@li...
>
> > I think we also should include a download section ;), where the
> > packages
> > will be available...maybe drop the cvs section for that...so we can
> > offer
> > packages in the download section and also explain how to download the
> > code
> > from cvs, for example:
> >
> > Downloads:
> > ---------------
> >
> > *Bme_x86_net_server.pkg
> > *Bme_x86_BONE.pkg
> > *Bme_ppc.pkg
> >
> > CVS Instructions:
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Bladiebla cvs login...bladiebla cvs download ;)
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> Yes, sounds like a good idea.
>
> > I really like the advice and reactions section!!! as we surely want
> > to make
> > a user friendly app (with emphasis on the USER) we need that advice
> > and
> > reactions!  nice!
>
> I agree we need a section like that, but "Advices and Reactions" does
> not make a lot of sense in English. "Advice" is something we give
> people (a better name would be "Tips and Tricks" or something), and
> "Reactions" are things they give us - this would be better called
> "Feedback".
>
> About the header - we decided on the capitalisation "Bme" instead of
> "BME", and the full name "Be-messeng-er" (but mainly for the beer
> connection). This was only ever meant to be a temporary name though, so
> I guess it's not all that important.
>
> Also it would be nice if the tracker windown in the header was replaced
> with a Bme window.
>
> Looks very nice overall though.
>
> Simon
>
> > regards,
> >
> > Tim
> >

Hi there !

 I have already start to code the php, mysql will follow tonight or tomorrow
morning i think. Cause i want it to be ok to see with NetPositive but not in
crappy html (net+ do not support CSS :( ), i have decided to code it in xHtml /
css. It's ok with Mozilla, Firefox, Safari (and also IE). On Net+, it will be
like a none style website. The Xhtml is ok also CSS. Very fast and W3C
validated :)

Advices and reactions has already been changed to feedback ... seems like i
wrote in your mind ;) For the download section, it's ok, i haven't worked on it
yet so great :)

Also about the traker view, i have just put it cause it was in my screenshot
library (remember ... 2AM) but of course, it will be changed to a Bme window !

Cya for perhaps a RC online on monday if everything goes like it started.

Regards,
Remi

ps: all filenames and comments in the code are in english, so you will all be
able to first understand how it works and make changes if needed :)