Re: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Jixt <jan...@pa...>]

>Aloha Jixt,

Hoi hoi again ;)

>
>>This is my first mail (test test...).
>To answer this with a quote of one of Belgium's most famous comedians 
>"ikels...ikels" :D

Hmm, Belgium comedian... which one? :-O

>
>>I've followed the developing of the BeMSN project since the beginning. =
I 
>>thought I already send a >mail to one of you to ask if the project was =

>>still alive and that I wanted to help with the >development. The reason=
 why 
>>I want to help is because I like MSN and many of us here in >Belgium us=
e 
>>it. Some years ago I've started to create a BeMSN myself, but I could n=
ot 
>>finish it >because of a lack of time. Now I see you are busy with BeMSN=
 and 
>>because I do not >like 'reinventing the weel' and 'double work', I want=
 to 
>>help you.
>I agree with you here...double work is something the beOS community is g=
ood 
>in ;) So you already did some work on an MSN client....is there some cod=
e we 
>would be able to re-use in this project? Btw you must know we want to ma=
ke 
>this messenger the Be way, not mimic the windoze MSN, but trying to surp=
ass 
>it...especially in user friendliness....

I agree and disagree a bit with that. Comments will come later ;)

>
>>I can say that I am good in c++( I love it!!) and I like solving diffic=
ult 
>>problems ;). Maybe some of >you know I am the creator of the BeDiGiCam,=
 so 
>>that is the experience I have in developing in ?>BeOs. I can say that I=
'm 
>>not new in developing applications under BeOs.
>I know the app, doesn't work with my Fuji Finipix sad enough...good in c=
++ 
>is nice...I am only starting to get the hang of it...
>
>>What I want to do for BeMSN deppends on what you give me ;). I want to =

>>change the >preferences screen, but if there are some other things that=
 are 
>>more urgent, then I'd like to >develop them for you. So tell me what I =
have 
>>to do and I will create it with pleasure! I don't know >how we are goin=
g to 
>>do it with the CVS-access and all stuff around, but we can discuss that=
 
>> >later ;)
>Preferences view and the way preferences(like login) are handled have to=
 be 
>changed indeed, so it's an area we need some work in....but we also have=
 to 
>discuss how we want to handle preferences(a Handler for example?)...The =

>login preferences are saved with the entire window that represents them,=
 so 
>they need a lot of work.... one problem though is that we don't have too=
 
>much features for preferences...so does anyone know another job for 
>Jixt...the UI also needs a lot of work...and I think maybe Daniel would =
like 
>some assistance on the protocol side, am I right about that...cvs access=
 
>won't be a problem, we can arrange that soon enough...

I've seen some things that could change(login procedure...) in the GUI. C=
hat screen need some bug-fixes....

1) When a Windoze MSN'er sends a file the BeMSN craches.
2) It is also possible to send empty messages.
3) When a chat screen opens, it is opened in 'small' in the left corner. =
You need to resize it and drag it to the middle of the screen.
4) ...

I think a test-procedure should be created(readable for beta-testers) and=
 there should be a good developing-plan. Milestones are needed. This acce=
lerates development. A bug-reporting-system is also needed to have contro=
l over the bugs. And it should be very handy that every developper has hi=
s own part of code to develop. I mean that every developer does developme=
nt of some component (ex: chat screen) and testd the component of another=
 developer during alpha testing. In the alfa testing every feature that s=
hould be in a certain release should be implemented. After alfa testing, =
a Beta should be released to the beta testers. This is a structured way o=
f working and will bring much progress to this project ;)
It is just my way of thinking, I don't now what you all think about it ;)=


>
>regards,
>
>Tim(aka Sir Mik)
>
greets
   Jixt