Re: [Bluemusic-users] Mac OSX and Blue - Bug?

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Hi Danilo,

Very glad to hear that you have CS5 working with blue on OSX!  For
MIDI, you should be able to use MIDI in the same way as using MIDI
with Csound alone.  I have not programmed anything (yet) for MIDI in
blue so being able to record MIDI as generic score is not possible.
(It's been requested in the past but hasn't been a high priority for
me, though I've been thinking of some sort of quick note entry system
that would be like a floating dialog, and had scheduled for myself to
take looks at MIDI while I'm here in Warsaw).

You could try taking a look at Andres Cabrera's "Diffamator" (Link on
csounds.com I believe).  He has furnished a .blue project file that
should show one way of working with MIDI.

steven

On 8/1/06, Doc Savage <doc...@ho...> wrote:
>
> On 31 jul 2006, at 13.04, Steven Yi wrote:
>
> > Hi Danilo,
> >
> > Yes, when you install csound5 the executable is installed as
> > /usr/local/bin/csound (I'm working from memory).  So if you use the
> > Program Settings Dialog and for the csound exectuable option in the
> > Realtime settings you can use the [...] button to open up a file
> > dialog and navigate to /usr/local/bin and choose csound as the
> > executable to use.
>
> Hi steven
>
> yes It's working , now I can choose all my outputs
>
> very well
>
> what about midi?
> can I use a midi source to control an orchestra in Blue?
> or can I record a midi source as generic score?
>
> anyway now it's working!
>
> regards
>
> danilo
>
>
>
> >
> > I'm not sure if the csound5 installer sets up paths for OPCODEDIR64
> > and OPCODEDIR so if you try the above and get errors where opcodes and
> > audio drivers aren't loaded, then those variables that csound uses
> > aren't set.  We can work from there if you find that to be the case.
> > (Can't test at the moment as my girlfriend has her computer with her).
> >
> > steven
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/06, Doc Savage <doc...@ho...> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 31 jul 2006, at 10.21, Steven Yi wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Danilo,
> >>>
> >>> The -+ flags are in Csound5, but in the picture you've given it says
> >>> you are using Csound version 4.23f12 from Jan 12, 2005.  I am
> >>> assuming
> >>> then that you've accidentally chosen the wrong Csound to use with
> >>> blue
> >>> as you said you installed 5.02, and most of these features, such as
> >>> audio drivers and detecting cards for those drivers, are all only
> >>> available in 5.00 and higher.
> >>>
> >>> steven
> >>
> >> So if i understand well I must have another commandline for Cs0und5
> >> I have used the commandline that matt ingalls posted on the
> >> MacCsounds forum
> >>
> >> How can use the the new csound5?
> >>
> >> best regards
> >>
> >> danilo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/31/06, Doc Savage <doc...@ho...> wrote:
> >>>> I did as you told me and that's the result
> >>>> from the terminal :
> >>>>
> >>>> <PROCESSING_START> =3D 0.0
> >>>> Global Duration =3D 360.33334
> >>>> Began Exec(/Applications/blue/bin/csound -+msg_color=3Dfalse -
> >>>> +rtaudio=3DCoreAudio -o dac999  -m135  "/tmp/tempCsd1182.csd").
> >>>> Ended Exec(/Applications/blue/bin/csound -+msg_color=3Dfalse -
> >>>> +rtaudio=3DCoreAudio -o dac999  -m135  "/tmp/tempCsd1182.csd").
> >>>>
> >>>> from csound output (f7)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I see a strange flag -+
> >>>> but only -- is allowed
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 30 jul 2006, at 11.53, Steven Yi wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Danilo,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The commandline that blue generated looks correct, but maybe it
> >>>>> didn't
> >>>>> use the expected soundcard.  Could you try using PortAudio or
> >>>>> CoreAudio and use "dac999" for the card and see what the output
> >>>>> is in
> >>>>> the csound output dialog (F7)?  Csound should fail to open that
> >>>>> audio
> >>>>> output and then list the available cards for those two drivers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, when you are using the "Complete Override" method that you
> >>>>> said
> >>>>> worked, what do you use for the "-o dac" setting? Whatever you
> >>>>> put in
> >>>>> there should work for the "Audio Device Out" setting in the
> >>>>> Program
> >>>>> Options dialog.
> >>>>
> >>>> I write -  csound -Ado dac
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, just from the output to the console itself it is hard to
> >>>>> diagnose if csound ran correctly or not.  Could you post what was
> >>>>> shown in the Csound Output Dialog after running once?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a USB soundcard for my Linux laptop that I will try to use
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> my girlfriend's iBook and will see if I can reproduce what is
> >>>>> happening for you.  Sorry the auto-detection isn't working for
> >>>>> you at
> >>>>> the moment but your feedback is very helpful in helping me to fix
> >>>>> these things as I don't use OSX regularly and would like to make
> >>>>> this
> >>>>> system work out-of-the-box for everyone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> steven
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/29/06, Doc Savage <doc...@ho...> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29 jul 2006, at 10.42, Steven Yi wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Danilo,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I asked about the checkbox because it had become a point that
> >>>>>>> prevented other users from getting the detection to work.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hmm... could you try with portaudio driver and tell me if the
> >>>>>>> autodetection works for that?
> >>>>>> No same as Core as well as Jack
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It could very well be that the
> >>>>>>> programming I did for coreaudio detection is not right; I have
> >>>>>>> only my
> >>>>>>> girlfriend's laptop to test on, and she only has the onboard
> >>>>>>> soundcard.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If the detection doesn't work, you should also be able to just
> >>>>>>> type in
> >>>>>>> the card into the audio device driver text box (i.e. dac) and
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> should work alright.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> doesn't work
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I get this :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <TOTAL_DUR> =3D 450.0
> >>>>>> <PROCESSING_START> =3D 0.0
> >>>>>> Global Duration =3D 450.0
> >>>>>> Began Exec(/Applications/blue/bin/csound -Ado dac -
> >>>>>> +msg_color=3Dfalse -
> >>>>>> +rtaudio=3DCoreAudio -o dac  -m135  "/tmp/tempCsd60997.csd").
> >>>>>> Ended Exec(/Applications/blue/bin/csound -Ado dac -
> >>>>>> +msg_color=3Dfalse -
> >>>>>> +rtaudio=3DCoreAudio -o dac  -m135  "/tmp/tempCsd60997.csd").
> >>>>>> Window already registered with name: ProgramOptionsDialog
> >>>>>> Began Exec(/Applications/blue/bin/csound -Ado dac -
> >>>>>> +msg_color=3Dfalse  -
> >>>>>> +rtaudio=3DCoreAudio -o dac999 /tmp/temp60998.csd).
> >>>>>> Ended Exec(/Applications/blue/bin/csound -Ado dac -
> >>>>>> +msg_color=3Dfalse  -
> >>>>>> +rtaudio=3DCoreAudio -o dac999 /tmp/temp60998.csd).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Could you describe a little about your mac setup (mainly what
> >>>>>>> soundcard(s) do you have installed)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a G4 2X1ghz 1 GB ram 10.4.7 latest java
> >>>>>> onboard card, Soundstick , imic (USB) , X-station ( usb)
> >>>>>> soundscard
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I can try on my laptop 1.5 Ghz Powerbook I let you know
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Danilo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 7/29/06, Doc Savage <doc...@ho...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 28 jul 2006, at 21.00, Steven Yi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Danilo,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Do you have the checkbox next to the Driver checked (this
> >>>>>>>>> enables
> >>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>> use)?
> >>>>>>>> Yes , of course
> >>>>>>>> bTW the other system that you describe is working ( override=85)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also, what version of Csound are you using?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have install 5.0.2
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/28/06, Doc Savage <doc...@ho...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Steven
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "If you want ot use the new render method, you should
> >>>>>>>>>> setup the
> >>>>>>>>>> program
> >>>>>>>>>>   options in the Program Options dialog available from the
> >>>>>>>>>> File
> >>>>>>>>>> Menu.
> >>>>>>>>>>   Under Realt-time settings, you should pick your Audio
> >>>>>>>>>> Driver
> >>>>>>>>>> (for OSX,
> >>>>>>>>>>   CoreAudio is recommended), click the checkbox next to
> >>>>>>>>>> that to
> >>>>>>>>>> enable
> >>>>>>>>>>   using it, and then click the [...] button next to audio
> >>>>>>>>>> device
> >>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>   text field to open a dialog and choose what device you
> >>>>>>>>>> want to
> >>>>>>>>>> use for
> >>>>>>>>>>   audio output. If you click the checkbox next to the device,
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>   make it enabled by default in new projects.  After this
> >>>>>>>>>> you can
> >>>>>>>>>> do the
> >>>>>>>>>>   same for audio device in, midi out and midi in, as well as
> >>>>>>>>>> set
> >>>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>>   settings here."
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I did exactly as you say but
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the problem is that I got an error message " Could not
> >>>>>>>>>> discover
> >>>>>>>>>> devices for this driver"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> regards
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> danilo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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