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From: Michael R. <mic...@sh...> - 2005-07-11 01:50:29
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OOPs wrong place. Working on an OpenWRT version of CSound if I can get it
working. :-(
-----Original Message-----
From: blu...@li...
[mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Michael
Rempel
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 8:24 PM
To: blu...@li...
Subject: RE: [Bluemusic-users] New ideas
Here is the whole session minus the ifconfig stuff which I will do next.
Michael
login as: root
root@192.168.1.1's password:
BusyBox v1.00 (2005.05.25-20:30+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
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root@OpenWrt:~# cd /etc/init.d
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# ls
S10boot S50dnsmasq S50pppoe S99peercast
S40network S50dnsmasq.old S50syslog lighttpd
S45firewall S50dropbear S50telnet rcS
S45firewall.old S50httpd S99done
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# vi s45firewall
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"s45firewall" line 1 of 1 --100%--
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root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# ls
S10boot S50dnsmasq S50pppoe S99peercast
S40network S50dnsmasq.old S50syslog lighttpd
S45firewall S50dropbear S50telnet rcS
S45firewall.old S50httpd S99done
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# del S45firewall
-ash: del: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# del ./S45firewall
-ash: del: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# delete -?
-ash: delete: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# help
Built-in commands:
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. : alias bg break cd chdir command continue eval exec exit export
false fg getopts hash help jobs kill let local pwd read readonly
return set shift times trap true type ulimit umask unalias unset
wait
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# rem
-ash: rem: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# info
-ash: info: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# remove
-ash: remove: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# rf
-ash: rf: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# del S45firewall
-ash: del: not found
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# mv S45firewall S45firewall.ded
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# ls
S10boot S50dnsmasq S50pppoe S99peercast
S40network S50dnsmasq.old S50syslog lighttpd
S45firewall.ded S50dropbear S50telnet rcS
S45firewall.old S50httpd S99done
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# ln -s /rom/etc/init.d /S45firewall S45firewall
ln: S45firewall/S45firewall: File exists
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d# ls -l
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jan 1 00:04 S10boot ->
/rom/etc/init .d/S10boot
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jan 1 00:04 S40network ->
/rom/etc/i nit.d/S40network
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan 1 00:11 S45firewall ->
/rom/etc/ init.d
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 1 00:03 S45firewall.ded ->
/rom/ etc/init.d/
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3199 Jan 1 2000 S45firewall.old
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jan 1 2000 S50dnsmasq ->
/rom/etc/i nit.d/S50dnsmasq
-rwx------ 1 root root 28 Jan 1 2000 S50dnsmasq.old
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Jan 1 00:04 S50dropbear ->
/rom/etc/ init.d/S50dropbear
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jan 1 00:04 S50httpd ->
/rom/etc/ini t.d/S50httpd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Jan 1 00:04 S50pppoe ->
/rom/etc/ini t.d/S50pppoe
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 39 Sep 12 2004 S50syslog
-rwx------ 1 root root 42 Jan 1 2000 S50telnet
-rwx------ 1 root root 98 Jan 1 00:06 S99done
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 159 Jan 1 2000 S99peercast
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 323 May 25 2005 lighttpd
-rwx------ 1 root root 123 Jan 1 2000 rcS
root@OpenWrt:/etc/init.d#
-----Original Message-----
From: blu...@li...
[mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Michael
Rempel
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:22 PM
To: blu...@li...
Subject: RE: [Bluemusic-users] New ideas
Render to disk is to ensure that the sync is good. Lag time from
instatiating Csound to the start of play is not easy to track. Any good
wav/mp3 player component will track the time. Knowing p2= start time and p3=
durration makes it fairly trivial. Steven already knows start and end times
for notes, since they are generated for the csd.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: blu...@li...
[mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of t grey
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:27 PM
To: blu...@li...
Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] New ideas
I like the following timeline idea, but I'm sure that would be
considerable work.
If following on the time line isn't possible, how about an option just
to pre-render a tmp file and play it back? Sometimes projects can't
render real time (lots of pvoc, etc), especially on an older laptop
that's short on ram. It gets a little old alt-tabbing to a console
just to play a wav. ;)
-Kevin
On 7/10/05, Michael Rempel <mic...@sh...> wrote:
> I agree completely but when I get sounds in the score I cant figure out I
> refer to the CSD, and try to follow the time line as it plays back. Nother
> idea, follow the timeline with the screen CSD, and change colors as it
plays
> back. Probably need to render to disk, then play back for time sync.
>
> Comments in the score help a great deal. You could also consider
pre-pending
> sections with the name of the blue soundobject they come from, and what
the
> soundobject's settings are as a comment block. If it is any easier to do I
> can also suggest an alternative of having an editor for instruments
similar
> to the one in csedit. Each field has a description, a range, and a current
> value. All optional of course. That way the usual comment blocks can be
> auto-generated.
>
> If formating the CSD text is not an option, then I suppose then it would
be
> good to turn off line wrap in the editor window and just have it
> horizontallly scroll. I tend to get parameter happy with my designs,
putting
> a LOT of control in the score. Linewrap makes it harder to do. I like
doing
> it even if it is not the best coding practice.
>
> Finally for now, Another suggestion. Generated CSDs when Solo is checked
> there should be an option to eliminate silence at the front of the score.
> Make the start 1sec (user configable) to allow ftables to gen and so on.
>
> I hope you dont have to refactor too much to do some of these things.
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blu...@li...
> [mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Steven
> Yi
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:01 PM
> To: blu...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] New ideas
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> This would actually be somewhat very tricky to implement I think.
> blue parses and strips out everything into internal notelists so that
> it's noteProcessors can work. It might be possible to do such a thing
> if I add a both a comment object as well as a comment field to the
> Note object so that note lines that have comment text as well as
> simple blocks of comment text can be handled. It's a good idea and
> might not be too bad to implement, but to be honest I don't have too
> much time to look into it at the moment.
>
> Generally, for me at least, I view the blue project itself as the
> primary entity one works with, while the CSD is a means to communicate
> to Csound. A similar view is what a sequencer's project file is to
> the midi information it generates. The MIDI is stripped of
> information compared to all of the metadata in the project file.
> Hence, blue has many places in which commenting is available
> (instruments, comment objects, internally with soundObject scores,
> etc.) while the stripped file is used to communicate to Csound. Also,
> the blue soundObjects as a system are a higher-level view of the music
> than the CSD, thus preserve musical ideas intact for later analysis by
> users, something which is not preserved in standard musical notation
> or most every other musical software. (i.e. "this musical idea in the
> soundObject library is a motive which is manipulated and used
> throughout the piece")
>
> steven
>
> On 7/10/05, Michael Rempel <mic...@sh...> wrote:
> > A suggestion of my own.
> >
> > Can you implement an option not to reformat the text of a score, leaving
> in
> > the comments and not putting tabs between score elements. I like to use
> > headers and comments to give me an idea of where various things are
> > happening.
> >
> > I know your manipulation of p2 makes this awkward. I can live with that.
I
> > suppose it is reasonable to expect a tab after p2 or it will look a mess
> for
> > sure.
> >
> > Perhaps you already have this somewhere and I just missed it.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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