RE: [Autopilot] Hello. (Glider system)
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From: Kahn, A. -A. <Aar...@it...> - 2002-10-28 16:21:24
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Hello, From what you have said, it sounds like you have a good plan. I would have to say that thermal flying would be the easier in terms of a flight controls and navigation point of view. I too fly sailplanes and have flown both thermal and slope, but mostly thermal. A simple GPS receiver, even in differential mode, will not have the precision required for slope soaring. It would be good enough for thermalling. Barometric altimetry can be very good, but it is all in the analog circuitry. A pitot tube will be fine for flight control. It is important to use a very low-pass filter on this input to reject wind noise. Also, play with different tube fronts. A prop would be too much drag. If the sailplane is very stable, polyhedral for example, then attitude stablization is not required. A yaw-damper is a good thing to have though. Most of all, my only suggestion is to start simple and work up from there. take care, Aaron Kahn -----Original Message----- From: Nick Shaw To: aut...@li... Sent: 10/28/2002 9:26 AM Subject: [Autopilot] Hello. (Glider system) Dear all, I have spent the weekend gleaning information from the web about this project and thinking about my own implementation. These are a few of my thoughts, interspersed with some details about myself. The first important detail is that I will be installing my system in a glider rather than a helicopter. Whether or not this makes the implementation easier, remains to be seen, but I hope that by using the same components as for the helicopter control system, that reasonable comparisons can be made. From a first principles point of view the inputs to the control system are all important, so I wrote down the following list (comments are welcome)... 1.Barometric altitude (above MSL) using a gauge pressure sensor. 2.Air speed using a Pitot tube and a differential pressure sensor. 3.Electronic magnetic compass (to give instantaneous bearing when horizontal). Could be automatically set/calibrated using input from DGPS (differential GPS) when in motion? Used to augment the inertial navigation system. 4.Thermometer - very short time constant (maybe fast enough to measure warm air once centred in a thermal). In any case, could be used to calibrate sensors. 5.DGPS (WAAS is not available here in the UK) - most GPS I have seen only update their info. every 1 second. Therefore I would use GPS to give absolute position (x,y). Altitude information from GPS is very poor, but could be used to recalibrate barometric altitude for very long flights. Also get the absolute ground velocity from the DGPS. Finally, they seem to output the error of the measurement - which is IMPORTANT. Used to augment the inertial navigation system. 6. Voltmeter - measuring for low batteries. 7. Ammeter - for interest and checking that there is not too much current drain if servos are stalled. 8. Precalculated polar curves for the glider (stored in memory). 9. Sonar range finder (height above ground). This could be used to create its own digital elevation map. (Maximum distance is rather short though). 10.Most tricky - the attitude system. I would have thought the best is using 3 gyros and 3 accelerometers. Is this the plan for the next version? I fly my radio controlled gliders both on the slope and thermal soaring from flat fields. These two activities require different inputs to the control system. On the slope, you have a quasi-static lift field - which needs to be evaluated and then stored in memory, along with a digital elevation map - so that you don't keep on hitting the slope. For thermalling off the flat, the need for a digital elevation map disappears, replaced by the need to circle for long times in a coordinated turn (bad news for the inertial navigation system). I imagine having several different flight regimes: Normal - i.e. cruising flight either at minimum sink speed or best glide speed. Aerobatic - simple acrobatics should be feasible with a good inertial navigation system. I'm thinking of loops and stall turns for the moment (same controls as a helicopter) Searching for lift - either slope lift or thermal lift - using information from all of the inputs. Landing - needs to know the ground level, wind velocity and lie of the land. For a glider, there are also many factors that can be calculated from the inputs and used to gain height better. These include - Variometer (including total energy compensation) Glide efficiency and optimal glide speeds, McCready values. Final glide speed computation for competitions. So those are my thoughts at the moment. Can I now ask a couple of questions... 1.Does the above sound like dreaming or is it a realistic aim? 2.Am I right thinking that there is no consensus at the moment about the gyros and the accelerometers to be used in version 3? 3.Are there going to be 3 gyros and 3 accelerometers in version 3? 4.Does anyone know if a Pitot tube with a differential pressure sensor is better (accuracy/stability) than an air speed propeller? For the record, my background is in Physics, with a mathematical leaning. I have been programming in C for the past 4 years and am currently writing up my PhD thesis on genetic algorithms and MRI design of the main B field. I also hold the world duration record for model flying (36 hours) which I broke last September (see http://www.rc-soar.com/wr_duration/index.html). 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