Re: [Atari800-users] Atari800-users Digest, Vol 126, Issue 5
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Re: [Atari800-users] Atari800-users Digest, Vol 126, Issue 5
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From: Chris C. <chr...@gm...> - 2024-05-09 03:42:12
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I still use Atari800 v2.2.1, which is ancient. I tried v4.0.0 a year or two ago and found that it was detectably sluggish in responding to the (Windows PC) keyboard, to the point of unusability. So I will probably stay with v2.2.1 forever, until-or-unless somebody can identify, and back out, whatever changed in keyboard handling between then and now. On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 4:01 PM < ata...@li...> wrote: > Send Atari800-users mailing list submissions to > ata...@li... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/atari800-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ata...@li... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ata...@li... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Atari800-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Removal of win32 (directx backend, not to be confused > with SDL one) (Miro Krop??ek) > 2. Re: Removal of win32 (directx backend, not to be confused > with SDL one) (Daniel Serpell) > 3. Serial I/O (Was: Re: Removal of win32 (directx backend, not > to be confused with SDL one)) (Miro Krop??ek) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:30:49 +0200 > From: Miro Krop??ek <mir...@gm...> > To: ata...@li... > Subject: Re: [Atari800-users] Removal of win32 (directx backend, not > to be confused with SDL one) > Message-ID: > < > CAN...@ma...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 14:25, bebing--- via Atari800-users < > ata...@li...> wrote: > > > The loading beeps don't really sound like beeps any more and the > "farting" > > SIO sounds sound very tinny, trebly, or thin. > > > Indeed! I have just discovered the same thing: > https://github.com/atari800/atari800/issues/229#issuecomment-2068163115. > I'll try to investigate where our beloved beep-beep-beep loading sound > went. > > I'm not a fan of Altirra. I tried it once via wine and did not like it. > > I guess it boils down to what one is accustomed to. I rarely use emulators > as I own real hardware and love using it so I had missed the whole Altirra > wave and how it took over Atari800's "market". However to be fair, Altirra > not only emulates correctly every obscure thing you throw at it but > additionally, Avery Lee (its author) has written an amazing Hardware guide > about all possible quirks you can imagine *and* occasionally > contributes with his knowledge to concrete Atari800 issues. So I'm really > grateful for Altirra and his author, no hard feelings whatsoever. > > -- > http://mikro.atari.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:27:21 -0400 > From: Daniel Serpell <dse...@gm...> > To: ata...@li... > Subject: Re: [Atari800-users] Removal of win32 (directx backend, not > to be confused with SDL one) > Message-ID: <Zia...@ap...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi! > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 09:39:51AM +0200, zy...@po... wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > [snip] > > > > > When I am thinking of the current "market" with the emulators, I see the > > following (this is, of course, subjective). > > > > > > Retro-Developers > > > > I would say, this piece of market is dominated by Altirra, because of > the > > emulation accuracy, very capable debugging tools, and native GUI. > > > > I don't believe atari800 can compete here, not now, not in the future. > > I disagree :) > > I consider myself a retro-developer, and I use atari800 over Altirra the > majority of the time - it is faster to startup, easier to use from > command line and easier to automate for testing. I only launch Altirra > to do final testing before releases and to solve problems difficult to > debug with the limited atari800 debugger. > > > Have Fun! > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:00:51 +0200 > From: Miro Krop??ek <mir...@gm...> > To: ata...@li... > Subject: [Atari800-users] Serial I/O (Was: Re: Removal of win32 > (directx backend, not to be confused with SDL one)) > Message-ID: > <CAN5rfbQt0AoD-bnc2U= > Wu6...@ma...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 18:30, Miro Krop??ek <mir...@gm...> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 14:25, bebing--- via Atari800-users < > > ata...@li...> wrote: > > > >> The loading beeps don't really sound like beeps any more and the > >> "farting" SIO sounds sound very tinny, trebly, or thin. > >> > > Indeed! I have just discovered the same thing: > > https://github.com/atari800/atari800/issues/229#issuecomment-2068163115. > > I'll try to investigate where our beloved beep-beep-beep loading sound > > went. > > > As mentioned in the issue #229, I have taken a look. Most likely my memory > has been fooling me, I went through 1.3.6 - 5.2.0 and all I can say is that > the sound I/O was gradually getting better, not worse. > > Of course, it is far away from what real hardware (and Altirra) sounds > like. But if you have some specific builds to point out where you feel the > sound was better, please do so. > > Anyway, this investigation also uncovered that the serial i/o sound is > indeed included in the synchronized sound "framework", i.e. the switch > doesn't have any meaning anymore for those platforms using synchronized > sound. > > I'm very much inclined to kick the volume only + serial i/o stuff out but > the DC and WinCE ports still use volumy only and not synchronized sound... > so that extended the question whether we want to: > - keep everything as is > - kick out volume only+serial i/o and leave dc/wince ports as is > - kick out also dc/wince along the way > > Opinions? > > -- > http://mikro.atari.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Atari800-users mailing list > Ata...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/atari800-users > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Atari800-users Digest, Vol 126, Issue 5 > ********************************************** > |
