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Re: [Atari800-users] Atari800 4.2.0 released

[Bruce B. <bru...@gm...>]

Thanks. Fingers crossed.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 12:49 Petr Stehlík <pst...@so...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have just released a new version of Atari800 with a few fixes and
> some improvements.
>
> https://github.com/atari800/atari800/releases/
>
> Binaries will appear there shortly, hopefully (if someone builds them).
>
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[Atari800-users] Atari800 4.2.0 released

[Petr S. <pst...@so...>]

Hi all,

I have just released a new version of Atari800 with a few fixes and
some improvements.

https://github.com/atari800/atari800/releases/

Binaries will appear there shortly, hopefully (if someone builds them).

Petr

[Atari800-users] Atari 800 4.1.0 on Android

[Bruce B. <bru...@gm...>]

Hello,

The changelist for Atari 800 4.1.0 says it has "fixed building of the
Android target."
Has anyone been able to compile for Android and provide the executable?

Thanks so much.

Bruce Baier

Re: [Atari800-users] atari800 falcon SuperVidel window-mode?

[Miro K. <mir...@gm...>]

Dňa po 25. 11. 2019, 19:16 patjomki <pat...@we...> napísal(a):

> I have to reinstall MiNT (hard disk died) anyway so I think I postpone
> it until my MiNT installation is back again.
>
Btw, trying out FreeMiNT is quite easy these days, just unpack the
preinstalled archive from
https://freemint.github.io/#snapshots, set video option to, say, 26 in
xaaes.cnf and you have a setup to play with. :)

>

Re: [Atari800-users] atari800 falcon SuperVidel window-mode?

[patjomki <pat...@we...>]

> See https://github.com/mikrosk/SDL/blob/master/README.MiNT -- the
> SDL_VIDEODRIVER env variable has to be set to "gem". The easiest is to
> use some modern AES for that but I'm sure there are tools to set env
> variables also for TOS.

Thanks for the info.

I have to reinstall MiNT (hard disk died) anyway so I think I postpone
it until my MiNT installation is back again. But it is good to know how
to get atari800 running in a window under TOS.

Re: [Atari800-users] atari800 falcon SuperVidel window-mode?

[Miro K. <mir...@gm...>]

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 00:43, patjomki <pat...@we...> wrote:

> O.k. Understood. But what do I have to do to get the sdl-version
> running in a window? When I start it under TOS it always starts fullscreen.
>
See https://github.com/mikrosk/SDL/blob/master/README.MiNT -- the
SDL_VIDEODRIVER env variable has to be set to "gem". The easiest is to use
some modern AES for that but I'm sure there are tools to set env variables
also for TOS.

-- 
http://mikro.atari.org

Re: [Atari800-users] atari800 falcon SuperVidel window-mode?

[patjomki <pat...@we...>]

> For that you have to use the SDL version, which has window (and to some
> extent, SuperVidel) support included. The plain falcon version uses only
> some basic VDI setup, i.e. no GEM at all. I had been thinking about it
> but in the end I decided that it is not worth it because running in GEM
> means supporting all the bit depths and planar/chunky formats, i.e. it
> would get extremely complicated.

O.k. Understood. But what do I have to do to get the sdl-version running
in a window? When I start it under TOS it always starts fullscreen.

Re: [Atari800-users] atari800 falcon SuperVidel window-mode?

[Miro K. <mir...@gm...>]

Hi,

thank you for your kind words!

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 14:42, patjomki <pat...@we...> wrote:

> I just tried ATARI800 with TOS 4.04 and SuperVidel (-videl switch) but
> is there a way to get it running in a window? With MiNT perhaps?
>
For that you have to use the SDL version, which has window (and to some
extent, SuperVidel) support included. The plain falcon version uses only
some basic VDI setup, i.e. no GEM at all. I had been thinking about it but
in the end I decided that it is not worth it because running in GEM means
supporting all the bit depths and planar/chunky formats, i.e. it would get
extremely complicated.

-- 
http://mikro.atari.org

[Atari800-users] atari800 falcon SuperVidel window-mode?

[patjomki <pat...@we...>]

Hi atari800-users on an ATARI falcon,

today I tried out the latest version of atari800 4.1.0 on my ct63
equipped falcon and it runs full speed even with sound enabled. Wow.

So thanks a lot to all of those people involved getting atari800 running
on the ATARI falcon. I am using atari800 since the good old days where I
tried it on my afterburner/nova equipped falcon and I really appreciate
that it has been supported over the years (and still is). So my thanks
go to not only Miro for the latest version but also to Petr for
maintaining the ATARI 16-Bit part for so long and of course for all the
others that contributed.

I just tried ATARI800 with TOS 4.04 and SuperVidel (-videl switch) but
is there a way to get it running in a window? With MiNT perhaps?

Best regards,

patjomki

[Atari800-users] Display both 80-column and main Atari output?

[James W. <ja...@sl...>]

Is there a way to show the main Atari screen as well as an 80-column
hardware device at the same time in separate windows?  I was thinking this
was possible, but I don't see an option that'll allow anything besides one
or the other.  I also could just be smoking something and remembering a
XEP80 support prototype I briefly worked on many years ago.

Re: [Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?

[James W. <ja...@sl...>]

Thanks for the info Tomasz.  That's helpful.  And no, I was too dumb to
remember to look at cart.txt.... :)

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 5:39 AM Tomasz Krasuski <tom...@in...>
wrote:

> James,
>
> Have you read the descriptions at DOC/cart.txt? The links there should
> provide some useful information.
>
> Anyway, let me chime in as the developer of both mappings.
>
> OSS_8 is the banking used by OSS's "The Writer's Tool". It was an 8KB
> banking cartridge that used OSS's single-chip PCB, the same they used in
> some of their 16KB cartridges. The mapping in Atari800 was implemented by
> analysing the PCB schematics.
>
> http://www.retrobits.net/atari/osshack.shtml
>
> LOW_BANK_8 was used by "Monkey Wrench II for the Atari XL". It maps itself
> to $8000-9FFF. While I haven't seen the cartridge's PCB, the result can be
> easily achieved by asserting the RD4 line while not asserting the RD5 line,
> and I believe that's what they used back in 1983. The implementation is
> based on this assumption.
>
> As the instruction manual for "Monkey Wrench II for the Atari XL" states,
> the cartridge must be initialised by user by entering "X=USR(32768)",
> because the XL/XE operating system removed support for initialisation of
> "right cartridges".
>
>
> https://atariage.com/forums/topic/161828-hooked-on-8-bit-carts/?do=findComment&comment=2338297
>
> So, to answer your question:
>
>
> On 12.10.2019 at 21:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
>
> do they represent real cartridges that existed in the wild
>
> Yes.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?

[Tomasz K. <tom...@in...>]

James,

Have you read the descriptions at DOC/cart.txt? The links there should 
provide some useful information.

Anyway, let me chime in as the developer of both mappings.

OSS_8 is the banking used by OSS's "The Writer's Tool". It was an 8KB 
banking cartridge that used OSS's single-chip PCB, the same they used in 
some of their 16KB cartridges. The mapping in Atari800 was implemented 
by analysing the PCB schematics.

http://www.retrobits.net/atari/osshack.shtml

LOW_BANK_8 was used by "Monkey Wrench II for the Atari XL". It maps 
itself to $8000-9FFF. While I haven't seen the cartridge's PCB, the 
result can be easily achieved by asserting the RD4 line while not 
asserting the RD5 line, and I believe that's what they used back in 
1983. The implementation is based on this assumption.

As the instruction manual for "Monkey Wrench II for the Atari XL" 
states, the cartridge must be initialised by user by entering 
"X=USR(32768)", because the XL/XE operating system removed support 
for initialisation of "right cartridges".

https://atariage.com/forums/topic/161828-hooked-on-8-bit-carts/?do=findComment&comment=2338297

So, to answer your question:


On 12.10.2019 at 21:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
> do they represent real cartridges that existed in the wild

Yes.

Regards,

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Tomek

Re: [Atari800-users] Atari800-users Digest, Vol 99, Issue 1

[Peter D. <Pet...@we...>]

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Subject: [Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?<br />
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Hey guys - long time no write.<br />
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I have quick questions about a couple of the cartridge formats supported by<br />
Atari800.  Basically, do they represent real cartridges that existed in the<br />
wild, or were they conveniences created for emulators or otherwise?  These<br />
are the two:<br />
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<br />
* Type $2C (OSS_8) - Is this legit?  The only example that comes to<br />
mine is a I have a cart image for ACE-80 XL that is set up this way.  Is<br />
that how it actually came, presumably (if I read the code right) banking 4k<br />
at a time into B000?  Are there any others that used this scheme?<br />
* Type $35 (LOW_BANK_8) - Again, is this legit?  The only example I<br />
have readily available is a &quot;Monkey Wrench II XL&quot; cart image that allows you<br />
to load into the emulator similar to a right cartridge without stomping on<br />
built-in basic.  Was that a real thing?  Anything else that would have been<br />
produced that way?<br />
<br />
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<br />
Thanks!<br />
<br />
James<br />
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Here is the discussion about Monkey Wrench II XL <a href="https://atariage.com/forums/topic/125889-monkey-wrench/">https://atariage.com/forums/topic/125889-monkey-wrench/</a><br />
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Here?s the chat about the ACE-80 XL <a href="https://atariage.com/forums/topic/99666-ace80-xl">https://atariage.com/forums/topic/99666-ace80-xl</a> in which ClausB (the author) pops up.<br />
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&gt; On Oct 12, 2019, at 14:27, James Wilkinson &lt;ja...@sl...&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Hey guys ? long time no write?<br />
&gt;  <br />
&gt; I have quick questions about a couple of the cartridge formats supported by Atari800.  Basically, do they represent real cartridges that existed in the wild, or were they conveniences created for emulators or otherwise?  These are the two:<br />
&gt;  <br />
&gt; Type $2C (OSS_8) ? Is this legit?  The only example that comes to mine is a I have a cart image for ACE-80 XL that is set up this way.  Is that how it actually came, presumably (if I read the code right) banking 4k at a time into B000?  Are there any others that used this scheme?<br />
&gt; Type $35 (LOW_BANK_8) ? Again, is this legit?  The only example I have readily available is a ?Monkey Wrench II XL? cart image that allows you to load into the emulator similar to a right cartridge without stomping on built-in basic.  Was that a real thing?  Anything else that would have been produced that way?<br />
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&gt; Thanks!<br />
&gt; James<br />
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Thanks.<br />
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Especially in the MRII thread, there is a lot of supposition about how the XL cart may or may not have worked, which to me says it may or may not have matched up to the LOW_BANK_8 scheme.  Of course, I may have misunderstood something in there that 100% answers the question.  Have I?<br />
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The ACE-80 thread does seem to support that OSS_8 was a legit cart layout at one time and was used for that.  Is that how you read it as well?<br />
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James<br />
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From: Steve Boswell &lt;st...@at...&gt; <br />
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:26 PM<br />
To: Atari800 Users &lt;ata...@li...&gt;<br />
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Here is the discussion about Monkey Wrench II XL <a href="https://atariage.com/forums/topic/125889-monkey-wrench/">https://atariage.com/forums/topic/125889-monkey-wrench/</a><br />
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<br />
Here?s the chat about the ACE-80 XL <a href="https://atariage.com/forums/topic/99666-ace80-xl">https://atariage.com/forums/topic/99666-ace80-xl</a> in which ClausB (the author) pops up.<br />
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On Oct 12, 2019, at 14:27, James Wilkinson &lt;ja...@sl... &lt;mailto:ja...@sl...&gt; &gt; wrote:<br />
<br />
 <br />
<br />
Hey guys ? long time no write?<br />
<br />
 <br />
<br />
I have quick questions about a couple of the cartridge formats supported by Atari800.  Basically, do they represent real cartridges that existed in the wild, or were they conveniences created for emulators or otherwise?  These are the two:<br />
<br />
 <br />
<br />
* Type $2C (OSS_8) ? Is this legit?  The only example that comes to mine is a I have a cart image for ACE-80 XL that is set up this way.  Is that how it actually came, presumably (if I read the code right) banking 4k at a time into B000?  Are there any others that used this scheme?<br />
* Type $35 (LOW_BANK_8) ? Again, is this legit?  The only example I have readily available is a ?Monkey Wrench II XL? cart image that allows you to load into the emulator similar to a right cartridge without stomping on built-in basic.  Was that a real thing?  Anything else that would have been produced that way?<br />
<br />
 <br />
<br />
Thanks!<br />
<br />
James<br />
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Re: [Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?

[James W. <ja...@sl...>]

Thanks.

 

Especially in the MRII thread, there is a lot of supposition about how the XL cart may or may not have worked, which to me says it may or may not have matched up to the LOW_BANK_8 scheme.  Of course, I may have misunderstood something in there that 100% answers the question.  Have I?

 

The ACE-80 thread does seem to support that OSS_8 was a legit cart layout at one time and was used for that.  Is that how you read it as well?

 

James

 

From: Steve Boswell <st...@at...> 
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 4:26 PM
To: Atari800 Users <ata...@li...>
Subject: Re: [Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?

 

Here is the discussion about Monkey Wrench II XL https://atariage.com/forums/topic/125889-monkey-wrench/

 

Here’s the chat about the ACE-80 XL https://atariage.com/forums/topic/99666-ace80-xl in which ClausB (the author) pops up.

 





On Oct 12, 2019, at 14:27, James Wilkinson <ja...@sl... <mailto:ja...@sl...> > wrote:

 

Hey guys – long time no write…

 

I have quick questions about a couple of the cartridge formats supported by Atari800.  Basically, do they represent real cartridges that existed in the wild, or were they conveniences created for emulators or otherwise?  These are the two:

 

*	Type $2C (OSS_8) – Is this legit?  The only example that comes to mine is a I have a cart image for ACE-80 XL that is set up this way.  Is that how it actually came, presumably (if I read the code right) banking 4k at a time into B000?  Are there any others that used this scheme?
*	Type $35 (LOW_BANK_8) – Again, is this legit?  The only example I have readily available is a “Monkey Wrench II XL” cart image that allows you to load into the emulator similar to a right cartridge without stomping on built-in basic.  Was that a real thing?  Anything else that would have been produced that way?

 

Thanks!

James

 

 



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Re: [Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?

[Steve B. <st...@at...>]

Here is the discussion about Monkey Wrench II XL https://atariage.com/forums/topic/125889-monkey-wrench/

Here’s the chat about the ACE-80 XL https://atariage.com/forums/topic/99666-ace80-xl in which ClausB (the author) pops up.


> On Oct 12, 2019, at 14:27, James Wilkinson <ja...@sl...> wrote:
> 
> Hey guys – long time no write…
>  
> I have quick questions about a couple of the cartridge formats supported by Atari800.  Basically, do they represent real cartridges that existed in the wild, or were they conveniences created for emulators or otherwise?  These are the two:
>  
> Type $2C (OSS_8) – Is this legit?  The only example that comes to mine is a I have a cart image for ACE-80 XL that is set up this way.  Is that how it actually came, presumably (if I read the code right) banking 4k at a time into B000?  Are there any others that used this scheme?
> Type $35 (LOW_BANK_8) – Again, is this legit?  The only example I have readily available is a “Monkey Wrench II XL” cart image that allows you to load into the emulator similar to a right cartridge without stomping on built-in basic.  Was that a real thing?  Anything else that would have been produced that way?
>  
> Thanks!
> James
>  
>  
> 
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[Atari800-users] Are these cart types true to life?

[James W. <ja...@sl...>]

Hey guys - long time no write.

 

I have quick questions about a couple of the cartridge formats supported by
Atari800.  Basically, do they represent real cartridges that existed in the
wild, or were they conveniences created for emulators or otherwise?  These
are the two:

 

*	Type $2C (OSS_8) - Is this legit?  The only example that comes to
mine is a I have a cart image for ACE-80 XL that is set up this way.  Is
that how it actually came, presumably (if I read the code right) banking 4k
at a time into B000?  Are there any others that used this scheme?
*	Type $35 (LOW_BANK_8) - Again, is this legit?  The only example I
have readily available is a "Monkey Wrench II XL" cart image that allows you
to load into the emulator similar to a right cartridge without stomping on
built-in basic.  Was that a real thing?  Anything else that would have been
produced that way?

 

Thanks!

James

 

 

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 10:36:22AM -0500, Steve Boswell wrote:
> If you want to do a directory listing or copy files etc. as Bill said you will have to also put a DOS2.5 disk in the D1: slot. Then you can type DOS to get a dos menu. 
> 
> From the dos Manu, typing 
> 
> A<return>
> H:<return>
> 
> Will give you a directory listing, if you get an error you probably have a mistake in your H path

Well, now that I know "H:" works all the time (and duh, why would it not!?),
I'm happy to report that DOS isn't _actually_ necessary to get a file
directory listing, if you want to go the tedious BASIC route, e.g.:

  10 DIM A$(40)
  20 OPEN #1,6,0,"H:*.*":TRAP 60
  30 INPUT #1,A$
  40 ? A$
  50 GOTO 30
  60 CLOSE #1

(As usual, [Ctrl]+[1] to pause text output, if it starts scrolling too
fast for you)

I haven't toyed with sub-directories.  I should really go look into the
documentation or source code to what the H: driver actually delivers!
I've obviously only ever used it for only the most extremely basic
file xfer purposes. ;)

-bill1

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Steve B. <st...@at...>]

To set up an H device you need to go to emulator configuration and set…

Disable BASIC when booting Atari: NO
H: Device (hard disk): Read/Write
H1: <FULL path of the folder to be the H1 disk>

You can then boot the emulator and should get a READY prompt, from which you can 

LOAD “H:PROGNAME.BAS”

Note H1 and H are synonyms 

If you want to do a directory listing or copy files etc. as Bill said you will have to also put a DOS2.5 disk in the D1: slot. Then you can type DOS to get a dos menu. 

From the dos Manu, typing 

A<return>
H:<return>

Will give you a directory listing, if you get an error you probably have a mistake in your H path

Steve


> On Sep 28, 2019, at 16:09, Phil Barnhart <phi...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> I downloaded the atari800win 4.1 emulator and have access to a lot of games.
> 
> However, I'd like to use BASIC as well. I cannot for the life of me save a program to my computer.
> 
> I've tried setting up D1 and H1 in the program, but I get error 130(device not found)
> 
> Can anyone help me? I've looked all over online to no avail.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Atari800-users mailing list
> Ata...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/atari800-users

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 09:40:59AM +0200, Petr Stehlík wrote:
> Bill, Phil says he'd like to SAVE a BASIC program to his COMPUTER.
> Saving to Host requires using the H: device. H: device does not need a
> DOS, it's emulated completely, I believe (hope I'm not wrong here).

Holy smokes, how did I never know this!?!?

-bill!

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[<be...@op...>]

Run atari800 with basic inserted (400/800/1200) or enabled (xl/xe)

Tell atari800 it's okay to write to hard drive:
F1 -> Emulator Configuration -> H: device (hard disk):Read/write

In the same menu screen select directory to use as hard drive
H1:

Escape out of menu system

SAVE"H1:TEST.BAS"
LOAD"H1:TEST.BAS"

LIST"H1:TEST.LST"
ENTER"H1:TEST.LST"

On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 07:13:52 -0400
Phil Barnhart <phi...@gm...> wrote:

> So what is the procedure for setting up an H drive?
> 
> I assumed that it was in the emulator for setting up a hard disk, but I
> can’t get that to work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 4:02 AM Petr Stehlík <pst...@so...> wrote:
> 
> > Bill, Phil says he'd like to SAVE a BASIC program to his COMPUTER.
> > Saving to Host requires using the H: device. H: device does not need a
> > DOS, it's emulated completely, I believe (hope I'm not wrong here).
> >
> > You can either save the tokenized form (unreadable on Host) using
> >
> > SAVE "H1:PROGRAM.BAS"
> >
> > or you can save the text version (fully readable and even editable on
> > Host) using
> >
> > LIST "H5:PROGRAM.LST"
> >
> > Using H5 instead of H1 for texts is better because there's auto
> > conversion of end-of-line characters.
> >
> > Error 130 means that either the path to host is not set correctly or
> > that the destination cannot be written to (the latter might be a
> > different error code, though).
> >
> > Petr
> >
> > Bill Kendrick píše v So 28. 09. 2019 v 14:58 -0700:
> > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:09:47PM -0400, Phil Barnhart wrote:
> > > > I downloaded the atari800win 4.1 emulator and have access to a lot
> > > > of games.
> > > >
> > > > However, I'd like to use BASIC as well. I cannot for the life of me
> > > > save a
> > > > program to my computer.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried setting up D1 and H1 in the program, but I get error
> > > > 130(device
> > > > not found)
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me? I've looked all over online to no avail.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > >
> > > You want D1: drive to contain a DOS (like Atari DOS, MyDOS, etc.),
> > > which the Atari will boot up, before handing the system off to BASIC.
> > >
> > > (You should be able to type "DOS" from BASIC to get to the DOS menu
> > > or prompt.
> > > > From Atari DOS and MyDOS menus, the "B. RUN CARTRIDGE" option will
> > > > get you
> > >
> > > back to BASIC.  Note that unless you do some work to set things up
> > > (MEM.SAV),
> > > your BASIC program will be lost when you go to DOS!)
> > >
> > > AtariMania has Atari DOS 2.5 here, for example:
> > >
> > http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-dos-25_s13808.html
> > >
> > > Anyhow, once you're up and running, it sounds like you already know
> > > this
> > > (but in case anyone else comes along and sees this archived, later),
> > > you can use the SAVE and LOAD (and RUN) commands to save & load your
> > > program.
> > > e.g.:
> > >
> > >   SAVE "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> > >
> > > then later
> > >
> > >   LOAD "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> > >
> > > or to load-and-run in one command, you can give RUN an optional
> > > filespec!
> > >
> > >   RUN "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> > >
> > > Generally, "D:" is short for "D1:" (disk drive 1), but in some DOSes
> > > (e.g., MyDOS) this can be changed to different drives, or sub-
> > > directories!
> > >
> > > (My typical steps when firing up MyDOS to do some programming in
> > > TurboBASIC XL
> > > is to boot to the DOS menu, tell it to set up RAMdisk as drive #9
> > > ([O]),
> > > format it ([I]), and then use it as my 'current directory' ([R]),
> > > then
> > > load TBXL ([L]).)
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Atari800-users mailing list
> > Ata...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/atari800-users
> >
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Phil Barnhart
> Maintenance Craft Director APWU

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Phil B. <phi...@gm...>]

So what is the procedure for setting up an H drive?

I assumed that it was in the emulator for setting up a hard disk, but I
can’t get that to work.




On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 4:02 AM Petr Stehlík <pst...@so...> wrote:

> Bill, Phil says he'd like to SAVE a BASIC program to his COMPUTER.
> Saving to Host requires using the H: device. H: device does not need a
> DOS, it's emulated completely, I believe (hope I'm not wrong here).
>
> You can either save the tokenized form (unreadable on Host) using
>
> SAVE "H1:PROGRAM.BAS"
>
> or you can save the text version (fully readable and even editable on
> Host) using
>
> LIST "H5:PROGRAM.LST"
>
> Using H5 instead of H1 for texts is better because there's auto
> conversion of end-of-line characters.
>
> Error 130 means that either the path to host is not set correctly or
> that the destination cannot be written to (the latter might be a
> different error code, though).
>
> Petr
>
> Bill Kendrick píše v So 28. 09. 2019 v 14:58 -0700:
> > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:09:47PM -0400, Phil Barnhart wrote:
> > > I downloaded the atari800win 4.1 emulator and have access to a lot
> > > of games.
> > >
> > > However, I'd like to use BASIC as well. I cannot for the life of me
> > > save a
> > > program to my computer.
> > >
> > > I've tried setting up D1 and H1 in the program, but I get error
> > > 130(device
> > > not found)
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me? I've looked all over online to no avail.
> > >
> > > Phil
> >
> > You want D1: drive to contain a DOS (like Atari DOS, MyDOS, etc.),
> > which the Atari will boot up, before handing the system off to BASIC.
> >
> > (You should be able to type "DOS" from BASIC to get to the DOS menu
> > or prompt.
> > > From Atari DOS and MyDOS menus, the "B. RUN CARTRIDGE" option will
> > > get you
> >
> > back to BASIC.  Note that unless you do some work to set things up
> > (MEM.SAV),
> > your BASIC program will be lost when you go to DOS!)
> >
> > AtariMania has Atari DOS 2.5 here, for example:
> >
> http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-dos-25_s13808.html
> >
> > Anyhow, once you're up and running, it sounds like you already know
> > this
> > (but in case anyone else comes along and sees this archived, later),
> > you can use the SAVE and LOAD (and RUN) commands to save & load your
> > program.
> > e.g.:
> >
> >   SAVE "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> >
> > then later
> >
> >   LOAD "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> >
> > or to load-and-run in one command, you can give RUN an optional
> > filespec!
> >
> >   RUN "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> >
> > Generally, "D:" is short for "D1:" (disk drive 1), but in some DOSes
> > (e.g., MyDOS) this can be changed to different drives, or sub-
> > directories!
> >
> > (My typical steps when firing up MyDOS to do some programming in
> > TurboBASIC XL
> > is to boot to the DOS menu, tell it to set up RAMdisk as drive #9
> > ([O]),
> > format it ([I]), and then use it as my 'current directory' ([R]),
> > then
> > load TBXL ([L]).)
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Atari800-users mailing list
> Ata...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/atari800-users
>
-- 
Sincerely,

Phil Barnhart
Maintenance Craft Director APWU

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Petr S. <pst...@so...>]

Bill, Phil says he'd like to SAVE a BASIC program to his COMPUTER.
Saving to Host requires using the H: device. H: device does not need a
DOS, it's emulated completely, I believe (hope I'm not wrong here).

You can either save the tokenized form (unreadable on Host) using

SAVE "H1:PROGRAM.BAS"

or you can save the text version (fully readable and even editable on
Host) using

LIST "H5:PROGRAM.LST"

Using H5 instead of H1 for texts is better because there's auto
conversion of end-of-line characters.

Error 130 means that either the path to host is not set correctly or
that the destination cannot be written to (the latter might be a
different error code, though).

Petr

Bill Kendrick píše v So 28. 09. 2019 v 14:58 -0700:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:09:47PM -0400, Phil Barnhart wrote:
> > I downloaded the atari800win 4.1 emulator and have access to a lot
> > of games.
> > 
> > However, I'd like to use BASIC as well. I cannot for the life of me
> > save a
> > program to my computer.
> > 
> > I've tried setting up D1 and H1 in the program, but I get error
> > 130(device
> > not found)
> > 
> > Can anyone help me? I've looked all over online to no avail.
> > 
> > Phil
> 
> You want D1: drive to contain a DOS (like Atari DOS, MyDOS, etc.),
> which the Atari will boot up, before handing the system off to BASIC.
> 
> (You should be able to type "DOS" from BASIC to get to the DOS menu
> or prompt.
> > From Atari DOS and MyDOS menus, the "B. RUN CARTRIDGE" option will
> > get you
> 
> back to BASIC.  Note that unless you do some work to set things up
> (MEM.SAV),
> your BASIC program will be lost when you go to DOS!)
> 
> AtariMania has Atari DOS 2.5 here, for example:
> 
http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-dos-25_s13808.html
> 
> Anyhow, once you're up and running, it sounds like you already know
> this
> (but in case anyone else comes along and sees this archived, later),
> you can use the SAVE and LOAD (and RUN) commands to save & load your
> program.
> e.g.:
> 
>   SAVE "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> 
> then later
> 
>   LOAD "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> 
> or to load-and-run in one command, you can give RUN an optional
> filespec!
> 
>   RUN "D:MYGAME.BAS"
> 
> Generally, "D:" is short for "D1:" (disk drive 1), but in some DOSes
> (e.g., MyDOS) this can be changed to different drives, or sub-
> directories!
> 
> (My typical steps when firing up MyDOS to do some programming in
> TurboBASIC XL
> is to boot to the DOS menu, tell it to set up RAMdisk as drive #9
> ([O]),
> format it ([I]), and then use it as my 'current directory' ([R]),
> then
> load TBXL ([L]).)
> 
> Good luck!
> 

Re: [Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:09:47PM -0400, Phil Barnhart wrote:
> I downloaded the atari800win 4.1 emulator and have access to a lot of games.
> 
> However, I'd like to use BASIC as well. I cannot for the life of me save a
> program to my computer.
> 
> I've tried setting up D1 and H1 in the program, but I get error 130(device
> not found)
> 
> Can anyone help me? I've looked all over online to no avail.
> 
> Phil

You want D1: drive to contain a DOS (like Atari DOS, MyDOS, etc.),
which the Atari will boot up, before handing the system off to BASIC.

(You should be able to type "DOS" from BASIC to get to the DOS menu or prompt.
>From Atari DOS and MyDOS menus, the "B. RUN CARTRIDGE" option will get you
back to BASIC.  Note that unless you do some work to set things up (MEM.SAV),
your BASIC program will be lost when you go to DOS!)

AtariMania has Atari DOS 2.5 here, for example:
http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-dos-25_s13808.html

Anyhow, once you're up and running, it sounds like you already know this
(but in case anyone else comes along and sees this archived, later),
you can use the SAVE and LOAD (and RUN) commands to save & load your program.
e.g.:

  SAVE "D:MYGAME.BAS"

then later

  LOAD "D:MYGAME.BAS"

or to load-and-run in one command, you can give RUN an optional filespec!

  RUN "D:MYGAME.BAS"

Generally, "D:" is short for "D1:" (disk drive 1), but in some DOSes
(e.g., MyDOS) this can be changed to different drives, or sub-directories!

(My typical steps when firing up MyDOS to do some programming in TurboBASIC XL
is to boot to the DOS menu, tell it to set up RAMdisk as drive #9 ([O]),
format it ([I]), and then use it as my 'current directory' ([R]), then
load TBXL ([L]).)

Good luck!

-- 
-bill!
Sent from my computer

[Atari800-users] BASIC Programs - Saving

[Phil B. <phi...@gm...>]

I downloaded the atari800win 4.1 emulator and have access to a lot of games.

However, I'd like to use BASIC as well. I cannot for the life of me save a
program to my computer.

I've tried setting up D1 and H1 in the program, but I get error 130(device
not found)

Can anyone help me? I've looked all over online to no avail.

Phil

Re: [Atari800-users] What "HTML attachment" did I miss? (Was Re: Atari800-users Digest, Vol 97, Issue 1)

[Steve <mr_...@at...>]

Your mailer is doing the scrubbing, I got that message in html not plaintext, you didn’t miss anything except a little formatting.



> On Jul 19, 2019, at 17:46, Chris Chiesa <chr...@gm... <mailto:chr...@gm...>> wrote:
> 
> Just curious what "HTML attachment was scrubbed; what did I miss?   Is it just me, or does everyone see this?   If just me, is there something I can do to fix it?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 8:21 AM <ata...@li... <mailto:ata...@li...>> wrote:
> 
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> 
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> To: "Ata...@li... <mailto:Ata...@li...>"
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> hi,? seems like the harddisk access is broken. a DIR H1:" gives me an error "Write protected or bad sector" this has been happening since 3.x but not sure of exact version where this started.
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