[Asunit-users] Re: [osflash] ASUNIT Primer

[Luke B. <lb...@gm...>]

Hey Mark,

Thanks for the heads up. It definitely looks interesting. I'll check it out=
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Does anyone else have any opinions about TestNG?


Thanks,


Luke Bayes
www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org>


On 9/19/05, M Daggett <hea...@gm...> wrote:
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> Hey Luke,
> Have you done any research into the testng framework?
> Many of my friends who are very serious about testing belive it will
> replace unit testing very soon.
> http://testng.org/doc/
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> Best,
> Mark
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> On 9/16/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hey Mark,
> >
> > Thanks so much for that, I really appreciate you taking the time to=20
> write
> > this out.
> >
> > I'm going to post a link to your file right now.
> >
> >
> > Luke Bayes
> > www.asunit.com <http://www.asunit.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/15/05, M Daggett <hea...@gm...> wrote:
> > > Opps the PDF link is actually:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.collcoll.com/content/uploads/Unit-Testing-with-ASUNIT.pdf
> > >
> > > On 9/15/05, M Daggett < hea...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > Hey Luke,
> > > > Here is the URL to my primer:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.collcoll.com/index.php/2005/09/13/asunit-primer/
> > > >
> > > > This is the url to the PDF which is formated much nicer:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.collcoll.com/index.php/2005/09/13/asunit-primer/
> > > >
> > > > If you see anything out of order on the writing let me know.
> > > > Best,
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > On 9/15/05, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > Great,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for putting this together!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Luke
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/14/05, M Daggett < hea...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Luke,
> > > > > > Ok, I'll stick to the shallow waters, I don't want to lose my
> > intended
> > > > > > audience. However, if you find any sections of my guide that ar=
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> not
> > > > > > up to snuff in regards to best practicies (or just plain wrong)
> > please
> > > > > > let me know. When I get some down time, I'll follow up this=20
> article
> > > > > > with a more general "why-to" as opposed to this "how-to".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/14/05, Luke Bayes < lb...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey Mark,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really appreciate your feedback, and if you're using AsUnit
> > > > > regularly,
> > > > > > > please feel free to let us know any issues you have or
> > enhancements you
> > > > > > > would like!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are really hoping AsUnit will remain the first choice for
> > developers
> > > > > > > that write to the Flash Player - regardless of their=20
> development
> > tools.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With this article, you have begun an extremely helpful=20
> endeavor
> > that we
> > > > > > > have been lacking for a long, long time now...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Answers below:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> 1. I'll give a more detailed usage of the proper use of
> > fixtures.
> > > > > > > Awesome!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> 2. I have been asked from another reader to explain to the=
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> new
> > users
> > > > > > > >> why you should use a framework like ASUNIT as opposed to
> > writing
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > >> own custom testClass (which seems pretty obvious, but I'll=
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> dig
> > into
> > > > > > > >> the subject anyway).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been asked about this quite a few times. I think this=20
> would
> > be a
> > > > > > > really important article, but I would separate it from the=20
> getting
> > > > > started
> > > > > > > guide. That is the "why", in your article, you have concisely=
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> and
> > > > > eloquently
> > > > > > > described the "how".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> 3. I would like to give more input on XULRUNNER though I a=
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> a
> > little
> > > > > > > >>fuzzy on how some of the details work so it would probably=
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> be
> > best if
> > > > > > > >>I could ask you some specific questions about it. For=20
> example,
> > I can
> > > > > > > >>create test suites from it, but can I run them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please don't spend too much time documenting the alpha that w=
e
> > have
> > > > > > > released! We're busy iterating on it right now and there are=
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> some
> > big
> > > > > > > improvements on the way... To your question, you will probabl=
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> not
> > be
> > > > > able
> > > > > > > to "execute" test suites from XULRunner. It is meant to be a
> > standalone
> > > > > > > application that "integrates" with whatever development tools=
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> you
> > use -
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > name a few that I have used over the past year: FAMES,
> > FlexBuilder,
> > > > > Flash MX
> > > > > > > 2k4, Flash 8.x, PrimalScript, TextPad, Emacs... The main=20
> compiler
> > that
> > > > > we're
> > > > > > > writing it to is MTASC. If you're not using that yet, I would
> > highly
> > > > > > > recomend that you start, it's AMAZING. I finally came around
> > pretty
> > > > > > > recently, but I don't think I'll be able to go back!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> 4. Can ASUNIT support mock objects, if so do you think tha=
t
> > would be
> > > > > > > >> worth mentioning in an intro article?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It absolutely can support mock objects, as a matter of fact,
> > we're
> > > > > looking
> > > > > > > at automatically writing mock stubs for the XULRunner build..=
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> I
> > think
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > your article has a perfect amount of depth as it is and I=20
> wouldn't
> > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > get into much more detail in that first chapter. With that=20
> said, I
> > think
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > would be an excellent spokesperson for unit testing and if=20
> you'd
> > like to
> > > > > > > publish any number of additional articles, we would be more=
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> than
> > happy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > host or at least link to your "series"... ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Luke Bayes
> > > > > > > www.asunit.com <http://www.asunit.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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