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From: Woodage, A. <ali...@de...> - 2006-05-08 23:12:25
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Hi, =20 This is probably as newbie as they come......I'm being strongly encouraged to implement Unit Testing for the Flash development work we do. I've just come across AsUnit Ui and from what I can see it looks like it is an ideal tool that we could use. But I've only got a vague understanding of Unit Testing is, and I've got no real idea how to implement it, or how to use/implement AsUnit Ui. =20 =20 Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is anyone interested in sharing their experiences in how they started Unit testing? =20 =20 Thanks =20 =20 Alison Woodage Lead Educational Programmer Centre for Learning Innovation 51 Wentworth Ave Strathfield 2135 02 9715 8389 =20 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** |
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From: Luke B. <lb...@gm...> - 2006-05-09 00:44:16
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This is a great question! The single best source that I've found is the book, "Test Driven Developmen= t by Example" from Kent Beck. This book really cleared up a lot of questions for Ali and I. I also got a lot of inspiration from the Gang of Four Design Patterns book = - this book helped me see the underlying (testable) object structures that ar= e behind gui systems... Anyone else? Luke Bayes www.asunit.org |
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From: Peter H. <pet...@gm...> - 2006-05-09 01:03:37
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I just found that Kent Beck book in my apartment! Not sure exactly where it came from. Anyway... it looks pretty good! Peter On 5/9/06, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote: > > This is a great question! > > The single best source that I've found is the book, "Test Driven > Development by Example" from Kent Beck. > > This book really cleared up a lot of questions for Ali and I. > > I also got a lot of inspiration from the Gang of Four Design Patterns boo= k > - this book helped me see the underlying (testable) object structures tha= t > are behind gui systems... > > > Anyone else? > > > Luke Bayes > www.asunit.org > > |
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From: Johannes N. <joh...@gm...> - 2006-05-09 08:21:15
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i left it there, consider it a gift from our kind employers... ;) On 5/9/06, Peter Hall <pet...@gm...> wrote: > > I just found that Kent Beck book in my apartment! Not sure exactly where > it came from. Anyway... it looks pretty good! > > > Peter > > > > On 5/9/06, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote: > > > > This is a great question! > > > > The single best source that I've found is the book, "Test Driven > > Development by Example" from Kent Beck. > > > > This book really cleared up a lot of questions for Ali and I. > > > > I also got a lot of inspiration from the Gang of Four Design Patterns > > book - this book helped me see the underlying (testable) object structu= res > > that are behind gui systems... > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > > > Luke Bayes > > www.asunit.org > > > > > -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org |
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From: Johannes N. <joh...@gm...> - 2006-05-09 08:27:04
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unit testing was a pain for me in the begining, i hated writing proper tests, always slacked and paid the price for it later. when i got into unit testing full-on i found my life became so much easier when bugs were filled against me. you get a bug, follow the steps to recreate it, notice a new edge case, write it up and voila you have broken tests. also once you have several people working on a project with a proper continues integration system, you find yourself in a world where if any tes= t breaks with checked in code, everybody gets notified. very few things slip underneath the radar like that... i am a lazy sod however so i use automated ways of creating my test shells and the like, i would advice you to do the same. On 5/9/06, Johannes Nel <joh...@gm...> wrote: > > i left it there, consider it a gift from our kind employers... ;) > > > On 5/9/06, Peter Hall <pet...@gm...> wrote: > > > > I just found that Kent Beck book in my apartment! Not sure exactly wher= e > > it came from. Anyway... it looks pretty good! > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > On 5/9/06, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > This is a great question! > > > > > > The single best source that I've found is the book, "Test Driven > > > Development by Example" from Kent Beck. > > > > > > This book really cleared up a lot of questions for Ali and I. > > > > > > I also got a lot of inspiration from the Gang of Four Design Patterns > > > book - this book helped me see the underlying (testable) object struc= tures > > > that are behind gui systems... > > > > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Luke Bayes > > > www.asunit.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > j:pn > http://www.lennel.org > -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org |
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From: Woodage, A. <ali...@de...> - 2006-05-09 23:09:44
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Thanks everyone for the references and starting points. Johannes, can you give me some idea of how you go about using automatic ways to cre= ate your test shells? =20 Alison ________________________________ From: asu...@li... on behalf of Johannes Nel Sent: Tue 5/9/2006 6:26 PM To: asu...@li... Subject: Re: [Asunit-users] a true beginner... unit testing was a pain for me in the begining, i hated writing proper te= sts, always slacked and paid the price for it later. when i got into unit= =20testing full-on i found my life became so much easier when bugs were f= illed against me.=20 you get a bug, follow the steps to recreate it, notice a new edge case, w= rite it up and voila you have broken tests.=20 also once you have several people working on a project with a proper cont= inues integration system, you find yourself in a world where if any test = breaks with checked in code, everybody gets notified. very few things sli= p underneath the radar like that...=20 =20 i am a lazy sod however so i use automated ways of creating my test shell= s and the like, i would advice you to do the same. =20 On 5/9/06, Johannes Nel <joh...@gm...> wrote:=20 =09i left it there, consider it a gift from our kind employers... ;) =09 =09 =09 =09On 5/9/06, Peter Hall <pet...@gm... > wrote:=20 =09 I just found that Kent Beck book in my apartment! Not sure exactly wh= ere it came from. Anyway... it looks pretty good! =09 =20 =09=09 =09 Peter =09=09 =09=09 =09=09 =09=09 =09 On 5/9/06, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote:=20 =09 This is a great question! =09 =09 =09 The single best source that I've found is the book, "Test Driven Dev= elopment by Example" from Kent Beck. =09 =09 =09 This book really cleared up a lot of questions for Ali and I.=20 =09 =09 =09 I also got a lot of inspiration from the Gang of Four Design Pattern= s book - this book helped me see the underlying (testable) object structu= res that are behind gui systems... =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 Anyone else? =09 =20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 Luke Bayes=20 =09 www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org/>=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09--=20 =09j:pn=20 =09http://www.lennel.org <http://www.lennel.org/>=20 =09 --=20 j:pn=20 http://www.lennel.org ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** |
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From: Johannes N. <joh...@gm...> - 2006-05-10 08:52:46
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i use a set of ant and python scripts i wrote for work, peter hall modified them so that you can exclude certain folders. http://www.lennel.org/blog/2006/02/27/building-unit-tests-in-eclipse-from-a= n-ant-script-for-asunit/ with asunit there comes some xul stuff as well, search the mailing list for refrences to those On 5/10/06, Woodage, Alison <ali...@de...> wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the references and starting points. > Johannes, > can you give me some idea of how you go about using automatic ways to > create your test shells? > > Alison > > ________________________________ > > From: asu...@li... on behalf of Johannes Nel > Sent: Tue 5/9/2006 6:26 PM > To: asu...@li... > Subject: Re: [Asunit-users] a true beginner... > > > unit testing was a pain for me in the begining, i hated writing proper > tests, always slacked and paid the price for it later. when i got into un= it > testing full-on i found my life became so much easier when bugs were fill= ed > against me. > you get a bug, follow the steps to recreate it, notice a new edge case, > write it up and voila you have broken tests. > also once you have several people working on a project with a proper > continues integration system, you find yourself in a world where if any t= est > breaks with checked in code, everybody gets notified. very few things sli= p > underneath the radar like that... > > i am a lazy sod however so i use automated ways of creating my test shell= s > and the like, i would advice you to do the same. > > > On 5/9/06, Johannes Nel <joh...@gm...> wrote: > > i left it there, consider it a gift from our kind employers... ;) > > > > On 5/9/06, Peter Hall <pet...@gm... > wrote: > > I just found that Kent Beck book in my apartment! Not sure > exactly where it came from. Anyway... it looks pretty good! > > > Peter > > > > > On 5/9/06, Luke Bayes <lb...@gm...> wrote: > > This is a great question! > > The single best source that I've found is the book= , > "Test Driven Development by Example" from Kent Beck. > > This book really cleared up a lot of questions for > Ali and I. > > I also got a lot of inspiration from the Gang of > Four Design Patterns book - this book helped me see the underlying > (testable) object structures that are behind gui systems... > > > Anyone else? > > > > Luke Bayes > www.asunit.org <http://www.asunit.org/> > > > > > > > > -- > j:pn > http://www.lennel.org <http://www.lennel.org/> > > > > > > -- > j:pn > http://www.lennel.org > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Asunit-users mailing list > Asu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/asunit-users > -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org |
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