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Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[Michael K. <li...@mk...>]

> Am 20.10.2018 um 23:50 schrieb David Kerr <da...@ke...>:
> 
> So, been thinking this through.  I didn't realize that primary and secondary DNS could in fact be both used in parallel.  I had assumed that secondary would be used only if primary failed.  If I had a dedicated DNS server for pi-hole this might be okay (raspberry pi on my network maybe?) but I have it running in a VM which is running on Astlinux and it is also my UniFi Controller.  I am trying to cover the possibility of that VM not being running, even if for just a few minutes during a reboot.  When Astlinux reboots the VM image also restarts but maybe delayed by a minute or two as it goes through its boot.  So DNS will take longer to come back up.
> 
> I think two choices.  I can change DHCP to push out the IP address of pi-hole VM.  Or I can put some iptables rules in place to reroute DNS requests that come in to Astlinux (using NAT rules, needs both DNAT and SNAT rules).  The benefit of iptables rules is that I could apply it to entire network (even statically assigned clients) if I want and I can quickly revert the entire network to using Astlinux directly for DNS if I need to.  But it is a more complex solution than just pushing out a DNS server address.
> 
> Pondering over this.  Any thoughts?
> 
> David

Hi David,

I am running a real Raspi 3 Model B+ with Pi hole, and my AstLinux router does DHCP and upstream DNS.
All DHCP devices get only the Pi as DNS server, which does Ad-blocking and then forwards the requests to the AstLinux router (with the config described in my former email). The Raspi is always on.
 
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:33 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
> Ahhh, pi-hole ....
> 
> Keep in mind that depending on the DNS client, given two DNS server IP's they can be queried in parallel and not just failover as primary/secondary would imply.
> 
> Can you configure AstLinux to use the pi-hole IP as the system's static DNS server ? or is there a startup chicken/egg issue ?
> 
> Network -> DNS: ____
> 
> Lonnie
> 
> 
> 
> > On Oct 19, 2018, at 4:13 PM, David Kerr <Da...@Ke...> wrote:
> > 
> > I'll try dnsmasq.static.   As to why... I have installed pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) on a VM and want to point clients at it as primary DNS, astlinux as secondary in case it fails.  I configured pi-hole to use my astlinux as its primary DNS so all queries will ultimately go through astlinux, after pi-hole has done its thing to filter out the unwanted.  No idea if I will keep this but thought I would give it a try and see if the family notices or if anything breaks.
> > 
> > David  
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On Oct 19, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do that?
> > 
> > No trivial way.  Possibly you could override the "dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,.." value using /mnt/kd/dnsmasq.static .
> > 
> > Which begs the question, Why ? :-)
> > 
> > Lonnie

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[David K. <da...@ke...>]

So, been thinking this through.  I didn't realize that primary and
secondary DNS could in fact be both used in parallel.  I had assumed that
secondary would be used only if primary failed.  If I had a dedicated DNS
server for pi-hole this might be okay (raspberry pi on my network maybe?)
but I have it running in a VM which is running on Astlinux and it is also
my UniFi Controller.  I am trying to cover the possibility of that VM not
being running, even if for just a few minutes during a reboot.  When
Astlinux reboots the VM image also restarts but maybe delayed by a minute
or two as it goes through its boot.  So DNS will take longer to come back
up.

I think two choices.  I can change DHCP to push out the IP address of
pi-hole VM.  Or I can put some iptables rules in place to reroute DNS
requests that come in to Astlinux (using NAT rules, needs both DNAT and
SNAT rules).  The benefit of iptables rules is that I could apply it to
entire network (even statically assigned clients) if I want and I can
quickly revert the entire network to using Astlinux directly for DNS if I
need to.  But it is a more complex solution than just pushing out a DNS
server address.

Pondering over this.  Any thoughts?

David


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:33 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
wrote:

> Ahhh, pi-hole ....
>
> Keep in mind that depending on the DNS client, given two DNS server IP's
> they can be queried in parallel and not just failover as primary/secondary
> would imply.
>
> Can you configure AstLinux to use the pi-hole IP as the system's static
> DNS server ? or is there a startup chicken/egg issue ?
>
> Network -> DNS: ____
>
> Lonnie
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2018, at 4:13 PM, David Kerr <Da...@Ke...> wrote:
> >
> > I'll try dnsmasq.static.   As to why... I have installed pi-hole (
> https://pi-hole.net/) on a VM and want to point clients at it as primary
> DNS, astlinux as secondary in case it fails.  I configured pi-hole to use
> my astlinux as its primary DNS so all queries will ultimately go through
> astlinux, after pi-hole has done its thing to filter out the unwanted.  No
> idea if I will keep this but thought I would give it a try and see if the
> family notices or if anything breaks.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <
> li...@lo...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 19, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define
> the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted
> to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do
> that?
> >
> > No trivial way.  Possibly you could override the
> "dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,.." value using /mnt/kd/dnsmasq.static .
> >
> > Which begs the question, Why ? :-)
> >
> > Lonnie
>
>
>
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Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

Ahhh, pi-hole ....

Keep in mind that depending on the DNS client, given two DNS server IP's they can be queried in parallel and not just failover as primary/secondary would imply.

Can you configure AstLinux to use the pi-hole IP as the system's static DNS server ? or is there a startup chicken/egg issue ?

Network -> DNS: ____

Lonnie



> On Oct 19, 2018, at 4:13 PM, David Kerr <Da...@Ke...> wrote:
> 
> I'll try dnsmasq.static.   As to why... I have installed pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) on a VM and want to point clients at it as primary DNS, astlinux as secondary in case it fails.  I configured pi-hole to use my astlinux as its primary DNS so all queries will ultimately go through astlinux, after pi-hole has done its thing to filter out the unwanted.  No idea if I will keep this but thought I would give it a try and see if the family notices or if anything breaks.
> 
> David  
> 
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Oct 19, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do that?
> 
> No trivial way.  Possibly you could override the "dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,.." value using /mnt/kd/dnsmasq.static .
> 
> Which begs the question, Why ? :-)
> 
> Lonnie

Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[Michael K. <li...@mk...>]

> Am 19.10.2018 um 23:13 schrieb David Kerr <da...@ke...>:
> 
> I'll try dnsmasq.static.   As to why... I have installed pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) on a VM and want to point clients at it as primary DNS, astlinux as secondary in case it fails.  I configured pi-hole to use my astlinux as its primary DNS so all queries will ultimately go through astlinux, after pi-hole has done its thing to filter out the unwanted.  No idea if I will keep this but thought I would give it a try and see if the family notices or if anything breaks.
> 
> David  

Hi David,

exactly what I do:
I set the Pi-hole-IP as described in dnsmasq.static (dns-server).

Then in Pi-hole in Settings/DNS disable all Upstream DNS Servers on the left and under "Custom 1(IPv4)" on the right set the IP of your AstLinux router and activate it. E.g. "192.168.1.1#53". That's all.

> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Oct 19, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do that?
> 
> No trivial way.  Possibly you could override the "dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,.." value using /mnt/kd/dnsmasq.static .
> 
> Which begs the question, Why ? :-)
> 
> Lonnie

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[David K. <da...@ke...>]

I'll try dnsmasq.static.   As to why... I have installed pi-hole (
https://pi-hole.net/) on a VM and want to point clients at it as primary
DNS, astlinux as secondary in case it fails.  I configured pi-hole to use
my astlinux as its primary DNS so all queries will ultimately go through
astlinux, after pi-hole has done its thing to filter out the unwanted.  No
idea if I will keep this but thought I would give it a try and see if the
family notices or if anything breaks.

David

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
wrote:

>
>
> > On Oct 19, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define
> the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted
> to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do
> that?
>
> No trivial way.  Possibly you could override the
> "dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,.." value using /mnt/kd/dnsmasq.static .
>
> Which begs the question, Why ? :-)
>
> Lonnie
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:
> 
> I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do that?

No trivial way.  Possibly you could override the "dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,.." value using /mnt/kd/dnsmasq.static .

Which begs the question, Why ? :-)

Lonnie
 

Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[Michael K. <li...@mk...>]

> Am 19.10.2018 um 22:49 schrieb Michael Keuter <li...@mk...>:
> 
> 
>> Am 19.10.2018 um 22:44 schrieb David Kerr <da...@ke...>:
>> 
>> I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do that?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> David
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> that's easy. E.g.
> 
> dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,192.168.1.10
> dhcp-option=lan,option:router,192.168.1.10
> 
> Where "lan" is the 1st LAN Interface. Next would be "lan2" etc.

Update: The entries need to be made in "dnsmasq.static".
The router line is only an example if would need to route over another gateway.

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

Re: [Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[Michael K. <li...@mk...>]

> Am 19.10.2018 um 22:44 schrieb David Kerr <da...@ke...>:
> 
> I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do that?
> 
> Thanks
> David

Hi David,

that's easy. E.g.

dhcp-option=lan,option:dns-server,192.168.1.10
dhcp-option=lan,option:router,192.168.1.10

Where "lan" is the 1st LAN Interface. Next would be "lan2" etc.

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

[Astlinux-users] Configure DNS server in DHCP

[David K. <da...@ke...>]

I'm probably just overlooking it, but is there a way for me to define the
DNS servers that get pushed to clients in DHCP responses?  Say I wanted to
push out 192.168.1.2 instead (or as well as) 192.168.1.1, how would I do
that?

Thanks
David

Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>]

Just for sake of conversation :)

I know the actual point of astlinux is to run lean....
But to say 25MB is bloated... Makes me feel that we are still in 1972 :P
/me is now running! :P

And yes compared to a dynamic bin its huge! But in the over all schema its
small :)
The point is to cary everything you need in one binary so you don't have to
satisfy dependencies.....

Most of my use cases are VM's and or mITX systems with plenty resources.....
I Like AstLinux because its simplicity, clean OS, and webUI...
When I have a 20GB KD Partition..... The last thing I kind of worry about
are binary size....

There is certain things people do need for the sake of trouble shooting or
just how their environment is driven....
I dont want to get away from AstLinux just because something is missing for
me.....

This is one of those where my env just runs on B2 so here I am :)

I am sure Tarsnap is a no brainer and even better that is native to the
AstLinux build! But it just not fit in my env.

With that said, Thank you to all of the devs for the amazing work done to
AstLinux!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You,

Fernando Fuentes
Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>



On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:09 PM Michael Knill <
mic...@ip...> wrote:

> Tarsnap is a no brainer. I am updating all my systems to use it.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Michael Knill
>
>
>
> *From: *David Kerr <da...@ke...>
> *Reply-To: *AstLinux List <ast...@li...>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 1:48 am
> *To: *AstLinux List <ast...@li...>
> *Subject: *Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup
>
>
>
> I think is backup Astlinux is the goal then tarsnap is a far better
> approach.  rclone is a general purpose copy utility much like rsync with
> support for an awful lot of protocols some proprietary to specific cloud
> vendors.  So there is a use case for it.
>
>
>
> But I don't think it belongs in Astlinux.  While it works perfectly well
> it is a huge binary (relative to the norm for Astlinux).  I had
> experimented with it to backup some content of my NAS to off site cloud
> storage and thought it would be cool to have astlinux act as the copying
> agent with rclone.  But in the end I decided that was not the place for it.
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:25 AM Lonnie Abelbeck <
> li...@lo...> wrote:
>
> Hi Fernando,
>
> Have you looked at Tarsnap? This remote backup service is directly
> supported within AstLinux.
>
> Tarsnap Online Backup
> https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:tt_tarsnap_online_backup
>
> The data "deduplication" works spectacularly well, along with it's
> tar-like command-line interface.
>
> Lonnie
>
> PS, Fernando I took a quick look at your scripts, you violate the AstLinux
> rule for not writing to the main image here:
> --
> ln -s /mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone /usr/sbin/rclone
> --
>
> Why not just use "/mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone" instead of creating a
> symlink ?
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
> > I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
> > rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies
> are very minimal to none.
> > Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network
> storage
> > For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your
> self out :)
> > https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
> >
> > Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older
> version as I got rid of my old one.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Fernando Fuentes
> > Texas Weather
>
>
>
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
>
> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to
> pa...@kr....
>
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>
> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to
> pa...@kr....

Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[Michael K. <mic...@ip...>]

Tarsnap is a no brainer. I am updating all my systems to use it.

Regards
Michael Knill

From: David Kerr <da...@ke...>
Reply-To: AstLinux List <ast...@li...>
Date: Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 1:48 am
To: AstLinux List <ast...@li...>
Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

I think is backup Astlinux is the goal then tarsnap is a far better approach.  rclone is a general purpose copy utility much like rsync with support for an awful lot of protocols some proprietary to specific cloud vendors.  So there is a use case for it.

But I don't think it belongs in Astlinux.  While it works perfectly well it is a huge binary (relative to the norm for Astlinux).  I had experimented with it to backup some content of my NAS to off site cloud storage and thought it would be cool to have astlinux act as the copying agent with rclone.  But in the end I decided that was not the place for it.

David


On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:25 AM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...<mailto:li...@lo...>> wrote:
Hi Fernando,

Have you looked at Tarsnap? This remote backup service is directly supported within AstLinux.

Tarsnap Online Backup
https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:tt_tarsnap_online_backup

The data "deduplication" works spectacularly well, along with it's tar-like command-line interface.

Lonnie

PS, Fernando I took a quick look at your scripts, you violate the AstLinux rule for not writing to the main image here:
--
ln -s /mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone /usr/sbin/rclone
--

Why not just use "/mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone" instead of creating a symlink ?




> On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Fernando F. <dig...@gm...<mailto:dig...@gm...>> wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
> I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
> rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies are very minimal to none.
> Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network storage
> For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your self out :)
> https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
>
> Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older version as I got rid of my old one.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Fernando Fuentes
> Texas Weather



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Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>]

Hello David,

Yup I saw that and agree but the reason I did this was for systems like
mine that are allready up and running.
Thanks for pointing it out!

Thank You,

Fernando Fuentes
Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>



On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:25 AM David Kerr <da...@ke...> wrote:

> It is also possible to build rclone right into Astlinux if you build your
> own custom image.  See...
>
> https://github.com/dkerr64/astlinux/commit/32a341eb11d9102b1c51222504161022d98dd10b
> This added it to my own custom image.
>
> But, after using it for a while I no longer include it in my builds.  The
> binary is huge.  And I decided that if I really wanted to use rclone I
> would use it from a full Ubuntu image (that I run in a QEMU KVM on my
> Astlinux box... yes if custom build you can include QEMU and run a full
> linux (or any OS supported by QEMU/KVM) on Astlinux).
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:58 AM Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Team,
>>
>> I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
>> I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
>> rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies
>> are very minimal to none.
>> Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network
>> storage
>> For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your
>> self out :)
>> https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
>>
>> Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older
>> version as I got rid of my old one.
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Fernando Fuentes
>> Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Astlinux-users mailing list
>> Ast...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
>>
>> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to
>> pa...@kr....
>
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
>
> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to
> pa...@kr....

Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>]

Hello Lonnie!
The symlink was for ease of mind when running the command from the shell.
/mnt/kd is not on the path so it makes it easier to just run when working
with it :)
I allready have Backblaze B2 so I just didnt want to just jump ship. All of
my servers are up there.
Plus rclone gives your more options. :)

I did look in to it though. Seems appealing and price is not bad at all :)

Thank You,

Fernando Fuentes
Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>



On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:26 AM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
wrote:

> Hi Fernando,
>
> Have you looked at Tarsnap? This remote backup service is directly
> supported within AstLinux.
>
> Tarsnap Online Backup
> https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:tt_tarsnap_online_backup
>
> The data "deduplication" works spectacularly well, along with it's
> tar-like command-line interface.
>
> Lonnie
>
> PS, Fernando I took a quick look at your scripts, you violate the AstLinux
> rule for not writing to the main image here:
> --
> ln -s /mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone /usr/sbin/rclone
> --
>
> Why not just use "/mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone" instead of creating a
> symlink ?
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
> > I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
> > rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies
> are very minimal to none.
> > Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network
> storage
> > For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your
> self out :)
> > https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
> >
> > Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older
> version as I got rid of my old one.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Fernando Fuentes
> > Texas Weather
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Astlinux-users mailing list
> Ast...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
>
> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to
> pa...@kr....
>

Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[David K. <da...@ke...>]

I think is backup Astlinux is the goal then tarsnap is a far better
approach.  rclone is a general purpose copy utility much like rsync with
support for an awful lot of protocols some proprietary to specific cloud
vendors.  So there is a use case for it.

But I don't think it belongs in Astlinux.  While it works perfectly well it
is a huge binary (relative to the norm for Astlinux).  I had experimented
with it to backup some content of my NAS to off site cloud storage and
thought it would be cool to have astlinux act as the copying agent with
rclone.  But in the end I decided that was not the place for it.

David


On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:25 AM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
wrote:

> Hi Fernando,
>
> Have you looked at Tarsnap? This remote backup service is directly
> supported within AstLinux.
>
> Tarsnap Online Backup
> https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:tt_tarsnap_online_backup
>
> The data "deduplication" works spectacularly well, along with it's
> tar-like command-line interface.
>
> Lonnie
>
> PS, Fernando I took a quick look at your scripts, you violate the AstLinux
> rule for not writing to the main image here:
> --
> ln -s /mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone /usr/sbin/rclone
> --
>
> Why not just use "/mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone" instead of creating a
> symlink ?
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
> > I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
> > rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies
> are very minimal to none.
> > Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network
> storage
> > For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your
> self out :)
> > https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
> >
> > Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older
> version as I got rid of my old one.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Fernando Fuentes
> > Texas Weather
>
>
>
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>
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> pa...@kr....
>

Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

Hi Fernando,

Have you looked at Tarsnap? This remote backup service is directly supported within AstLinux.

Tarsnap Online Backup
https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:tt_tarsnap_online_backup

The data "deduplication" works spectacularly well, along with it's tar-like command-line interface.

Lonnie

PS, Fernando I took a quick look at your scripts, you violate the AstLinux rule for not writing to the main image here:
--
ln -s /mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone /usr/sbin/rclone
--

Why not just use "/mnt/kd/.rclone/bin/rclone" instead of creating a symlink ?




> On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Fernando F. <dig...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Team,
> 
> I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
> I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
> rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies are very minimal to none.
> Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network storage
> For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your self out :)
> https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
> 
> Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older version as I got rid of my old one. 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Fernando Fuentes
> Texas Weather

Re: [Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[David K. <da...@ke...>]

It is also possible to build rclone right into Astlinux if you build your
own custom image.  See...
https://github.com/dkerr64/astlinux/commit/32a341eb11d9102b1c51222504161022d98dd10b
This added it to my own custom image.

But, after using it for a while I no longer include it in my builds.  The
binary is huge.  And I decided that if I really wanted to use rclone I
would use it from a full Ubuntu image (that I run in a QEMU KVM on my
Astlinux box... yes if custom build you can include QEMU and run a full
linux (or any OS supported by QEMU/KVM) on Astlinux).

David


On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:58 AM Fernando F. <dig...@gm...> wrote:

> Team,
>
> I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
> I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
> rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies
> are very minimal to none.
> Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network
> storage
> For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your
> self out :)
> https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone
>
> Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older
> version as I got rid of my old one.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Fernando Fuentes
> Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Astlinux-users mailing list
> Ast...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
>
> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to
> pa...@kr....

[Astlinux-users] rclone backup

[Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>]

Team,

I have created an rclone install script for AstLinux.
I needed a way to backup to Backblaze B2.
rclone does the trick.... been that is a static binary and dependencies are
very minimal to none.
Also it can backup to many other cloud services including local/network
storage
For those who are brave and like to work on the command line knock your
self out :)
https://github.com/parallelsys/astlinux_scripts/tree/master/rclone

Tested with the latest version of astlinux. Unable to test on an older
version as I got rid of my old one.

Thank You,

Fernando Fuentes
Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>

Re: [Astlinux-users] Startup

[Michael K. <mic...@ip...>]

No. Never change rc.conf. Use rc.local (late in the boot process) or rc.elocal (early in the boot process)

Regards
Michael Knill

From: "Fernando F." <dig...@gm...>
Reply-To: AstLinux List <ast...@li...>
Date: Tuesday, 16 October 2018 at 10:42 am
To: AstLinux List <ast...@li...>
Subject: [Astlinux-users] Startup

Team,

If I want a script to run on startup.
Do I put it under rc.conf?

Thank You,

Fernando Fuentes
Texas Weather<http://www.txweather.org>

Re: [Astlinux-users] Startup

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

> On Oct 15, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Fernando F. <dig...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Team,
> 
> If I want a script to run on startup.
> Do I put it under rc.conf?

First, any changed/added files (minor exceptions) must in the /mnt/kd/ path.
https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:tt_editable_files

Given that, startup scripts may occur in two places ...

1) /mnt/kd/rc.local
  * Called on startup by service "local" /etc/init.d/local
  * Occurs after all primary services have started.

2) /mnt/kd/rc.elocal
  * Called on startup by service "elocal" /etc/init.d/elocal
  * Occurs immediately after the "network" service has started, but before primary services have started.

In either case, they must be shell scripts, for example ...
--
#!/bin/sh

. /etc/rc.conf

mail -r "REBOOT-$HOSTNAME <no...@ex...>" -s "Rebooted at '$HOSTNAME'" me...@ex... <<EOF
Rebooted at '$HOSTNAME'

[Generated at $(date "+%H:%M:%S on %B %d, %Y")]
EOF
--

and must be made executable ...
--
chmod 700 /mnt/kd/rc.local
--

Tip -> you can test such scripts, for example "local" (/mnt/kd/rc.local) with:
--
service local init
--


Lonnie

[Astlinux-users] Startup

[Fernando F. <dig...@gm...>]

Team,

If I want a script to run on startup.
Do I put it under rc.conf?

Thank You,

Fernando Fuentes
Texas Weather <http://www.txweather.org>

Re: [Astlinux-users] 4G Router

[Michael K. <mic...@ip...>]

Yes I had not heard of them either. External antennas will be nice.
Interesting point about more basic the better as it means fewer security entry points. I suppose you have a point there but not sure if it could be applied in all scenarios. I would probably prefer to be using an appliance that is being regularly updated which this one appears to be.

Regards
Michael Knill

On 15/10/18, 8:03 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lo...> wrote:

    Hi Michael,
    
    > As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
    
    Can you explain what the Netgear in router mode is missing ?  Works perfectly for me.
    
    I would argue the more basic the better, fewer security entry points.
    
    OTOH, if the Teltonika RUT240 is less expensive than the Netgear LB21XX for you in AU, that is important.
    
    It looks like the RUT240 has WiFi built-in, I would hope that radio could be turned off completely.
    
    The company Teltonika is out of Lithuania, no US presence, possibly explains why I have never heard of their products before your mention.
    
    Lonnie
    
    
    
    > On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
    > 
    > To the group
    >  
    > As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
    > As such, I am going to try out this device which looks very interesting. Its based on OpenWRT.
    >  
    > https://teltonika.lt/product/rut240/
    >  
    > Interesting that it can support OpenVPN as well so this could be a good remote site router with 4G backup or even a mobile site router.
    >  
    > Regards
    > Michael Knill
    > _______________________________________________
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    > Ast...@li...
    > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
    > 
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Re: [Astlinux-users] 4G Router

[Michael K. <li...@mk...>]

> Am 14.10.2018 um 23:53 schrieb Michael Keuter <li...@mk...>:
> 
>> 
>> Am 14.10.2018 um 23:03 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>>> As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
>> 
>> Can you explain what the Netgear in router mode is missing ?  Works perfectly for me.
>> 
>> I would argue the more basic the better, fewer security entry points.
>> 
>> OTOH, if the Teltonika RUT240 is less expensive than the Netgear LB21XX for you in AU, that is important.
>> 
>> It looks like the RUT240 has WiFi built-in, I would hope that radio could be turned off completely.
>> 
>> The company Teltonika is out of Lithuania, no US presence, possibly explains why I have never heard of their products before your mention.
>> 
>> Lonnie
> 
> The product is here in Germany available at resellers that only sell industrial-grade products. A few of those where I buy stuff.
> So it seems to be no SoHo/consumer device. But it is also available on Amazon. A few of the reviewers use it in their cars or caravan. 
> Interesting device, the price is OK.
> 
> Michael

Their Wiki seems to be very informative: https://wiki.teltonika.lt/index.php?title=RUT240
The device also uses the VRRP protocol :-) https://wiki.teltonika.lt/index.php?title=VRRP_configuration

>>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> To the group
>>> 
>>> As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
>>> As such, I am going to try out this device which looks very interesting. Its based on OpenWRT.
>>> 
>>> https://teltonika.lt/product/rut240/
>>> 
>>> Interesting that it can support OpenVPN as well so this could be a good remote site router with 4G backup or even a mobile site router.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Knill


Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

Re: [Astlinux-users] 4G Router

[Michael K. <li...@mk...>]

> Am 14.10.2018 um 23:03 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
>> As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
> 
> Can you explain what the Netgear in router mode is missing ?  Works perfectly for me.
> 
> I would argue the more basic the better, fewer security entry points.
> 
> OTOH, if the Teltonika RUT240 is less expensive than the Netgear LB21XX for you in AU, that is important.
> 
> It looks like the RUT240 has WiFi built-in, I would hope that radio could be turned off completely.
> 
> The company Teltonika is out of Lithuania, no US presence, possibly explains why I have never heard of their products before your mention.
> 
> Lonnie

The product is here in Germany available at resellers that only sell industrial-grade products. A few of those where I buy stuff.
So it seems to be no SoHo/consumer device. But it is also available on Amazon. A few of the reviewers use it in their cars or caravan. 
Interesting device, the price is OK.

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

>> On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
>> 
>> To the group
>> 
>> As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
>> As such, I am going to try out this device which looks very interesting. Its based on OpenWRT.
>> 
>> https://teltonika.lt/product/rut240/
>> 
>> Interesting that it can support OpenVPN as well so this could be a good remote site router with 4G backup or even a mobile site router.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Michael Knill

Re: [Astlinux-users] 4G Router

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

Hi Michael,

> As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.

Can you explain what the Netgear in router mode is missing ?  Works perfectly for me.

I would argue the more basic the better, fewer security entry points.

OTOH, if the Teltonika RUT240 is less expensive than the Netgear LB21XX for you in AU, that is important.

It looks like the RUT240 has WiFi built-in, I would hope that radio could be turned off completely.

The company Teltonika is out of Lithuania, no US presence, possibly explains why I have never heard of their products before your mention.

Lonnie



> On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
> 
> To the group
>  
> As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
> As such, I am going to try out this device which looks very interesting. Its based on OpenWRT.
>  
> https://teltonika.lt/product/rut240/
>  
> Interesting that it can support OpenVPN as well so this could be a good remote site router with 4G backup or even a mobile site router.
>  
> Regards
> Michael Knill
> _______________________________________________
> Astlinux-users mailing list
> Ast...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users
> 
> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr....

[Astlinux-users] 4G Router

[Michael K. <mic...@ip...>]

To the group

As I am now moving to router mode rather than bridge mode for the 4G device, the Netgear LB21XX is too basic for me.
As such, I am going to try out this device which looks very interesting. Its based on OpenWRT.

https://teltonika.lt/product/rut240/

Interesting that it can support OpenVPN as well so this could be a good remote site router with 4G backup or even a mobile site router.

Regards
Michael Knill