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Re: [Astlinux-users] why HTML mails suck

[olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...>]

did you see the green text on my first mail?
no, you didn't, because you are focused against microsoft and so on(like=20
html mails).
your problem is your and only your, the mails are sended from=20
thunderbird, not from a microsoft software.
just for now, forget me and just have a look at the mail archives, you=20
will see a lot of my unreadable mails.
also, you will rarely see microsoft addicts on this list, afaik,=20
astlinux is not really a microsoft addicts software.
as far as I have seen, many more questions from you than answers.
then please, stop that now and be kind, better for all.

kind regards,

Olivier

ps: i will not answer to any further attacks

Carla Schroder a =E9crit :
> I don't want to start a stupid flamewar, so I'm going to list a few rea=
sons=20
> why HTML mails suck, especially for mailing lists, then go away:
>
> 1. HTML adds nothing useful to the content, just lard
> 2. It's primarily a spam and malware vector. Not so much as it used to =
be, but=20
> it's still enough of a problem that for most of my customers I run Mime=
defang=20
> and other tools to strip tags and attachments. All kinds of fun things =
lurk=20
> inside HTML spams, like Web bugs and download links to more malware. It=
's so=20
> much fun wasting billable hours on junk like that
> 3. Microsoft HTML is the worst offender- it rarely renders correctly on=
=20
> non-Microsoft mail clients, so all you see are masses of tags with the=20
> message buried somewhere deep inside
> 4. It sucks to read in text mail clients
> 5. It doesn't render in Web archives, so again all you see are masses o=
f tags=20
> surrounding the actual messages
> 6. Text is universal and can be read by anyone anywhere
>
> That's why I don't like HTML email, and usually bitbucket it. Obviously=
 I'm=20
> not the boss of anyone, and what people choose to use is up to them. 'N=
uff=20
> said, and I shall now grumble quietly to myself. :)
>
>  =20

[Astlinux-users] why HTML mails suck

[Carla S. <ca...@br...>]

I don't want to start a stupid flamewar, so I'm going to list a few reasons 
why HTML mails suck, especially for mailing lists, then go away:

1. HTML adds nothing useful to the content, just lard
2. It's primarily a spam and malware vector. Not so much as it used to be, but 
it's still enough of a problem that for most of my customers I run Mimedefang 
and other tools to strip tags and attachments. All kinds of fun things lurk 
inside HTML spams, like Web bugs and download links to more malware. It's so 
much fun wasting billable hours on junk like that
3. Microsoft HTML is the worst offender- it rarely renders correctly on 
non-Microsoft mail clients, so all you see are masses of tags with the 
message buried somewhere deep inside
4. It sucks to read in text mail clients
5. It doesn't render in Web archives, so again all you see are masses of tags 
surrounding the actual messages
6. Text is universal and can be read by anyone anywhere

That's why I don't like HTML email, and usually bitbucket it. Obviously I'm 
not the boss of anyone, and what people choose to use is up to them. 'Nuff 
said, and I shall now grumble quietly to myself. :)

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carla Schroder
Linux geek and random computer tamer
check out my Linux Cookbook! 
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/
best book for sysadmins and power users
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Re: [Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf

[olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...>]

mine did use exactly the same syntax as yours :)
A copy paste...
If mine wasn't polite, what about your?

Html mails are quite usuals right now, as well as internet, voip and so=20
on, even thunderbird is able to do that...
Back to the stone age?

Anyway, it wasn't an help request but an answer to an help request.

Kind regards,

ps: Just for you, this email is Text/Html compliant :)

Carla Schroder a =C3=A9crit :
> It was a polite request, and it's standard list etiquette to use plain =
text.=20
> Since you can't handle that, I can't be bothered to read your messages =
or try=20
> to help. Not that I know enough to be helpful all that much, but I do t=
ry.
>
> Carla
>
> On Thursday 04 January 2007 08:24, olivier.taylor wrote:
>  =20
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>> <head>
>>   <meta content=3D"text/html;charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty=
pe">
>> </head>
>> <body bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
>> <pre wrap=3D"">TXT mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use html=
?</pre>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Carla Schroder a =C3=A9crit :
>> <blockquote cite=3D"mid...@br..." type=3D"=
cite">
>>   <pre wrap=3D"">HTML mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use p=
lain
>> text?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Carla
>>
>> On Wednesday 03 January 2007 23:28, olivier.taylor wrote:
>>   </pre>
>>   <blockquote type=3D"cite">
>>     <pre wrap=3D""> Hi Phil,
>>
>>  Seems to be the same problem,
>>
>>  Docs doesn't tell you to modify grub.conf but you have to.
>>
>>  Genkd, If I understand well, creates the directories in Mnt/kd, Rc.co=
nf is
>> in /etc and there are some symlinks to /mnt/kd
>>
>>  in Grub.conf, you should have :
>>
>>  default saved
>>  timeout 3
>>  serial --unit=3D0 --speed=3D19200 --word=3D8 --parity=3Dno --stop=3D1
>>  terminal serial
>>
>>
>>  title AstLinux (Boot from CF - Use third partition for KeyDisk)
>>      root (hd0,0)
>>      kernel /boot/bzImage root=3D/dev/hda1 console=3DttyS0,19200n8
>> astlinux=3Dnet4801 astkd=3D/dev/sda1 ide=3Dnodma   -------&gt; Flash k=
eydisk
>> savedefault
>>
>>  Remember to make the system read/write before modifying grub.conf
>>
>>
>>  Olivier
>>
>>
>>  Phil McKerracher a =C3=A9crit :
>> It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB f=
lash
>> stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried again
>> without success.
>>
>> I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then rebo=
oting
>> as described on
>> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"
>> href=3D"http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20User=
s%20Guide
>> %20Cha">http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20User=
s%20Guid
>> e%20Cha</a> pter%202 and on
>> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"
>> href=3D"http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976">h=
ttp://w
>> ww.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976</a>).
>>
>> If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message
>>
>> Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=3D40 - Too =
many
>> levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php on l=
ine
>> 115
>>
>> ...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root=
 or
>> in /etc?).
>>
>> This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
>> astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
>> asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
>> cdr-csv         home            voicemail
>>
>> If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment I=
NTIF)
>> the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to make =
the
>> filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I tried wi=
th
>> and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the keydisk mou=
nted.
>> I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web interface. I t=
ried
>> power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried reformatting the flash dri=
ve
>> and the CF card. I searched the mailing list archive for a previous me=
ntion
>> of this without success.
>>
>> Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tel=
l me
>> it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all =
with
>> dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but it =
would
>> really be much easier if there was some documentation around somewhere.
>>
>> I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had t=
his
>> working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.
>>     </pre>
>>   </blockquote>
>>   <pre wrap=3D""><!---->
>>   </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </body>
>>    =20
>
>  =20

Re: [Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf

[Carla S. <ca...@br...>]

It was a polite request, and it's standard list etiquette to use plain text=
=2E=20
Since you can't handle that, I can't be bothered to read your messages or t=
ry=20
to help. Not that I know enough to be helpful all that much, but I do try.

Carla

On Thursday 04 January 2007 08:24, olivier.taylor wrote:
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> <head>
>   <meta content=3D"text/html;charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type">
> </head>
> <body bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
> <pre wrap=3D"">TXT mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use html?</=
pre>
> <br>
> <br>
> Carla Schroder a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> <blockquote cite=3D"mid...@br..." type=3D"cit=
e">
>   <pre wrap=3D"">HTML mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use plain
> text?
>
> thanks,
> Carla
>
> On Wednesday 03 January 2007 23:28, olivier.taylor wrote:
>   </pre>
>   <blockquote type=3D"cite">
>     <pre wrap=3D""> Hi Phil,
>
>  Seems to be the same problem,
>
>  Docs doesn't tell you to modify grub.conf but you have to.
>
>  Genkd, If I understand well, creates the directories in Mnt/kd, Rc.conf =
is
> in /etc and there are some symlinks to /mnt/kd
>
>  in Grub.conf, you should have :
>
>  default saved
>  timeout 3
>  serial --unit=3D0 --speed=3D19200 --word=3D8 --parity=3Dno --stop=3D1
>  terminal serial
>
>
>  title AstLinux (Boot from CF - Use third partition for KeyDisk)
>  =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 root (hd0,0)
>  =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 kernel /boot/bzImage root=3D/dev/hda1 console=3DttyS0=
,19200n8
> astlinux=3Dnet4801 astkd=3D/dev/sda1 ide=3Dnodma=C2=A0=C2=A0 -------&gt; =
=46lash keydisk
> savedefault
>
>  Remember to make the system read/write before modifying grub.conf
>
>
>  Olivier
>
>
>  Phil McKerracher a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB flash
> stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried again
> without success.
>
> I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then rebooti=
ng
> as described on
> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"
> href=3D"http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20Users%2=
0Guide
>%20Cha">http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20Users%20=
Guid
>e%20Cha</a> pter%202 and on
> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext"
> href=3D"http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976">http=
://w
>ww.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976</a>).
>
> If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message
>
> Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=3D40 - Too many
> levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php on line
> 115
>
> ...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root or
> in /etc?).
>
> This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
> astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
> asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
> cdr-csv         home            voicemail
>
> If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment INTI=
=46)
> the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to make the
> filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I tried with
> and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the keydisk mounte=
d.
> I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web interface. I tried
> power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried reformatting the flash drive
> and the CF card. I searched the mailing list archive for a previous menti=
on
> of this without success.
>
> Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tell me
> it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all with
> dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but it wou=
ld
> really be much easier if there was some documentation around somewhere.
>
> I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had this
> working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.
>     </pre>
>   </blockquote>
>   <pre wrap=3D""><!---->
>   </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </body>

=2D-=20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carla Schroder
Linux geek and random computer tamer
check out my Linux Cookbook!=20
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/
best book for sysadmins and power users
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Re: [Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf

[olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...>]

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta content=3D"text/html;charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"=
>
</head>
<body bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000">
<pre wrap=3D"">TXT mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use html?</=
pre>
<br>
<br>
Carla Schroder a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
<blockquote cite=3D"mid...@br..." type=3D"cit=
e">
  <pre wrap=3D"">HTML mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use plai=
n text?

thanks,
Carla

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 23:28, olivier.taylor wrote:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <pre wrap=3D""> Hi Phil,

 Seems to be the same problem,

 Docs doesn't tell you to modify grub.conf but you have to.

 Genkd, If I understand well, creates the directories in Mnt/kd, Rc.conf =
is
in /etc and there are some symlinks to /mnt/kd

 in Grub.conf, you should have :

 default saved
 timeout 3
 serial --unit=3D0 --speed=3D19200 --word=3D8 --parity=3Dno --stop=3D1
 terminal serial


 title AstLinux (Boot from CF - Use third partition for KeyDisk)
 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 root (hd0,0)
 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 kernel /boot/bzImage root=3D/dev/hda1 console=3DttyS0=
,19200n8
astlinux=3Dnet4801 astkd=3D/dev/sda1 ide=3Dnodma=C2=A0=C2=A0 -------&gt; =
Flash keydisk
savedefault

 Remember to make the system read/write before modifying grub.conf


 Olivier


 Phil McKerracher a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB flas=
h
stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried again
without success.

I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then rebooti=
ng
as described on
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/=
index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Cha">http://www.voip-info.org=
/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Cha</a>
pter%202 and on
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.voipplanet.com/back=
grounders/article.php/3646976">http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/ar=
ticle.php/3646976</a>).

If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message

Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=3D40 - Too man=
y
levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php on line
115

...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root or
in /etc?).

This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
cdr-csv         home            voicemail

If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment INTI=
F)
the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to make the
filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I tried with
and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the keydisk mounte=
d.
I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web interface. I trie=
d
power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried reformatting the flash drive
and the CF card. I searched the mailing list archive for a previous menti=
on
of this without success.

Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tell m=
e
it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all wit=
h
dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but it wou=
ld
really be much easier if there was some documentation around somewhere.

I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had this
working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=3D""><!---->
  </pre>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>

Re: [Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf

[Carla S. <ca...@br...>]

HTML mails are real PITAs- any chance you could use plain text?

thanks,
Carla

On Wednesday 03 January 2007 23:28, olivier.taylor wrote:
>  Hi Phil,
>
>  Seems to be the same problem,
>
>  Docs doesn't tell you to modify grub.conf but you have to.
>
>  Genkd, If I understand well, creates the directories in Mnt/kd, Rc.conf =
is
> in /etc and there are some symlinks to /mnt/kd
>
>  in Grub.conf, you should have :
>
>  default saved
>  timeout 3
>  serial --unit=3D0 --speed=3D19200 --word=3D8 --parity=3Dno --stop=3D1
>  terminal serial
>
>
>  title AstLinux (Boot from CF - Use third partition for KeyDisk)
>  =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 root (hd0,0)
>  =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 kernel /boot/bzImage root=3D/dev/hda1 console=3DttyS0=
,19200n8
> astlinux=3Dnet4801 astkd=3D/dev/sda1 ide=3Dnodma=C2=A0=C2=A0 -------> Fla=
sh keydisk
> savedefault
>
>  Remember to make the system read/write before modifying grub.conf
>
>
>  Olivier
>
>
>  Phil McKerracher a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB flash
> stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried again
> without success.
>
> I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then rebooti=
ng
> as described on
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20Users%20Guide%2=
0Cha
>pter%202 and on
> http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976).
>
> If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message
>
> Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=3D40 - Too many
> levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php on line
> 115
>
> ...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root or
> in /etc?).
>
> This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
> astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
> asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
> cdr-csv         home            voicemail
>
> If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment INTI=
=46)
> the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to make the
> filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I tried with
> and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the keydisk mounte=
d.
> I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web interface. I tried
> power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried reformatting the flash drive
> and the CF card. I searched the mailing list archive for a previous menti=
on
> of this without success.
>
> Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tell me
> it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all with
> dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but it wou=
ld
> really be much easier if there was some documentation around somewhere.
>
> I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had this
> working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.

=2D-=20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carla Schroder
Linux geek and random computer tamer
check out my Linux Cookbook!=20
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/
best book for sysadmins and power users
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Re: [Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf (correct version)

[olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...>]

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  <title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Hi Phil,<br>
<br>
Seems to be the same problem,<br>
<br>
Docs doesn't tell you to modify grub.conf but you have to.<br>
<br>
Genkd, If I understand well, creates the directories in mnt/kd, rc.conf
is in /etc and there are some symlinks to /mnt/kd<br>
<br>
in Grub.conf, you should have :<br>
<font color="#33cc00"><br>
<br>
</font><font color="#33cc00">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda1
console=ttyS0,19200n8
astlinux=net4801 astkd=/dev/sda1 ide=nodma&nbsp;&nbsp; <font color="#ff0000">-------&gt;
Flash keydisk</font></font><font color="#33cc00">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda1 console=ttyS0,19200n8
astlinux=net4801 astkd=/dev/hda2 ide=nodma&nbsp;&nbsp; <font color="#ff0000">-------&gt;
Second partion on flashdisk</font></font><font color="#33cc00"><font
 color="#ff0000"></font><br>
</font><br>
<br>
Remember to make the system read/write before modifying grub.conf<br>
<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<br>
Phil McKerracher a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
<blockquote cite="mid000001c72f7e$16d98f50$0a00a8c0@phil" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB flash stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried again without success.
 
I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then rebooting as described on <a
 class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=AstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Chapter%202">http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=AstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Chapter%202</a> and on <a
 class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976">http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976</a>).
 
If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message

Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=40 - Too many levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php on line 115

...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root or in /etc?).

This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
cdr-csv         home            voicemail

If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment INTIF) the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to make the filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I tried with and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the keydisk mounted. I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web interface. I tried power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried reformatting the flash drive and the CF card. I searched the mailing list archive for a previous mention of this without success.

Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tell me it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all with dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but it would really be much easier if there was some documentation around somewhere.

I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had this working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.
 
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Re: [Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf

[olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...>]

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Hi Phil,<br>
<br>
Seems to be the same problem,<br>
<br>
Docs doesn't tell you to modify grub.conf but you have to.<br>
<br>
Genkd, If I understand well, creates the directories in Mnt/kd, Rc.conf
is in /etc and there are some symlinks to /mnt/kd<br>
<br>
in Grub.conf, you should have :<br>
<font color="#33cc00"><br>
default saved<br>
timeout 3<br>
serial --unit=0 --speed=19200 --word=8 --parity=no --stop=1<br>
terminal serial<br>
<br>
<br>
title AstLinux (Boot from CF - Use third partition for KeyDisk)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; root (hd0,0)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kernel /boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda1 console=ttyS0,19200n8
astlinux=net4801 astkd=/dev/sda1 ide=nodma&nbsp;&nbsp; <font color="#ff0000">-------&gt;
Flash keydisk</font><br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; savedefault</font><br>
<br>
Remember to make the system read/write before modifying grub.conf<br>
<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<br>
Phil McKerracher a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
<blockquote cite="mid000001c72f7e$16d98f50$0a00a8c0@phil" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB flash stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried again without success.
 
I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then rebooting as described on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=AstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Chapter%202">http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=AstLinux%20Users%20Guide%20Chapter%202</a> and on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976">http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976</a>).
 
If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message

Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=40 - Too many levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php on line 115

...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root or in /etc?).

This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
cdr-csv         home            voicemail

If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment INTIF) the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to make the filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I tried with and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the keydisk mounted. I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web interface. I tried power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried reformatting the flash drive and the CF card. I searched the mailing list archive for a previous mention of this without success.

Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tell me it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all with dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but it would really be much easier if there was some documentation around somewhere.

I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had this working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.
 
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Re: [Astlinux-users] Connecting topology

[Phil M. <ph...@mc...>]

> From: "Kristian Kielhofner" <kri...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Connecting topology
> To: "AstLinux Users Mailing List"
> 
> ...The net4801 can ROUTE at about 40 mbit/sec between interfaces.
> That's pretty good.  Chances are your Netgear can't get 
> anywhere close to that...

>From memory it can, but I'll check.

> ... However, your Netgear probably also 
> has a layer two switch built in.  Switches have ASICs to do 
> simple ethernet switching at wire speed - 100 mbit/sec.  
> Comparing the throughput of a router to a dumb switch is 
> nowhere near a fair fight...

Exactly, that's why I wondered about the choice of hardware.

> ...  Do a speed test with the Netgear routing - from the "Internet"
> interface to any port on the switch and see how fast it is...

I'm not worried about that, I know it keeps up with my 4 Mbit/s internet
connection.

> Even IF you were to bridge the ports together to act like a 
> switch, the speed would be nowhere near wire speed on your net4801:
> 
> http://facweb.cti.depaul.edu/jyu/Publications/Yu-Linux-TSM2004.pdf
> 
>   As you can see, these tests were conducted with a 1.2ghz 
> Duron processor with TWO ethernet ports.  Your 266mhz Geode 
> has seven :).

Interesting link, thanks. Actually, I'm only likely to run two ports flat
out at once (e.g. when transferring files from one PC to another).

> ...  Your best bet is to connect your internet connection to 
> eth0 and connect a switch (not a router) to eth1 and then 
> connect all of your local devices to the switch.

Including the IP phones? Like this?
            __________      ________
           |          |    |        |----IP Phone
INTERNET---| astlinux |----| Switch |----IP Phone...
           |    box   |    |        |----Computer
           |__________|    |________|----Computer ...

Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.net

[Astlinux-users] Can't edit rc.conf

[Phil M. <ph...@mc...>]

It seems I lied when I said I could edit changes to rc.conf on a USB =
flash stick. I thought I had successfully done this but I just tried =
again without success.
=20
I tried reformatting the drive from scratch (using genkd and then =
rebooting as described on =
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux%20Users%20Guide%2=
0Chapter%202 and on =
http://www.voipplanet.com/backgrounders/article.php/3646976).
=20
If I go to /mnt/kd using the web interface I see the error message

Warning: is_dir(): Stat failed for /mnt/kd/asterisk (errno=3D40 - Too =
many levels of symbolic links) in /stat/var/www/admin/dirphp_class.php =
on line 115

...and I can't find rc.conf anywhere (is it supposed to be in the root =
or in /etc?).

This is what I see in the root of the keydisk:
astdb           crontabs        lost+found      ssh
asterisk        dnsmasq.leases  monitor         tftpboot
cdr-csv         home            voicemail

If I edit rc.conf in /etc using the web interface (e.g. to uncomment =
INTIF) the changes don't persist past a reboot. (Yes, I did remember to =
make the filesystem read/write first, then save changes and reboot.) I =
tried with and without doing a "reload". I tried with and without the =
keydisk mounted. I tried using nano from the terminal instead of the web =
interface. I tried power cycling instead of rebooting. I tried =
reformatting the flash drive and the CF card. I searched the mailing =
list archive for a previous mention of this without success.

Every reboot takes a few mins, so this has all taken hours. Please tell =
me it gets easier than this eventually! I'm trying not to bother you all =
with dumb questions (after the flaming I got from my initial ones!) but =
it would really be much easier if there was some documentation around =
somewhere.

I'm off to try an earlier version of asterisk because I'm sure I had =
this working at one stage and I was using a different version initially.
=20
--=20
Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.net
=20
=20

Re: [Astlinux-users] Native "extras" sounds

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

Responding to myself,

After some testing, I do not recommend these sound files.  This is  
not a re-record in native formats.

Many sounds are incorrect or missing data.

Sorry...  back to the old GSM "extras".

Lonnie

On Jan 3, 2007, at 12:35 AM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just noticed that the "extras" sounds are now in a variety of  
> native formats, including ulaw and wav:
>
> http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en- 
> ulaw-1.4.4.tar.gz
>
> http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en- 
> wav-1.4.4.tar.gz
>
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Re: [Astlinux-users] Native "extras" sounds

[Erick P. <eap...@gm...>]

too bad the extra sounds are only in english and just the "core"
sounds are available in spanish.


On 1/3/07, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just noticed that the "extras" sounds are now in a variety of native
> formats, including ulaw and wav:
>
> http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en-ulaw-1.4.4.tar.gz
>
> http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en-wav-1.4.4.tar.gz
>
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[Astlinux-users] Native "extras" sounds

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

Hi,

I just noticed that the "extras" sounds are now in a variety of  
native formats, including ulaw and wav:

http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en- 
ulaw-1.4.4.tar.gz

http://ftp.digium.com/pub/telephony/sounds/asterisk-extra-sounds-en- 
wav-1.4.4.tar.gz

Lonnie

Re: [Astlinux-users] Connecting topology

[Kristian K. <kri...@gm...>]

On 1/1/07, Phil McKerracher <ph...@mc...> wrote:
> Happy New Year everybody, and thanks for all your replies to my earlier query on this subject on the old mailing list.
>
> I've held off replying while I did a bit more research about using astlinux as a router, to avoid making a complete fool of myself in public. But I still don't understand it all, so here goes anyway. :-)
>
> I've got no problem with throttling my external connection to 90% of the available bandwidth to avoid queueing problems. Obviously it would be nice to have a system that copes with congestion without configuration, but I can live with it.
>
> I've discovered elsewhere that the net4801 won't cope with 100 Mbit/s ethernet routing (between PCs on my SoHo LAN) but should cope with my 4 Mbit/s internet connection OK. This is as I suspected, although it does make me wonder why my (much cheaper!) Netgear router copes with it all right - presumably it contains special hardware. This in turn makes me wonder whether the net4801 was a good choice of hardware for this sort of thing. Anyway, I think I can avoid all the speed problems by simply connecting my Netgear router downstream from the astlinux box, with my PCs connected to the router and my phones to the astlinux box. It's twice as much cable but what the heck.

  The net4801 can ROUTE at about 40 mbit/sec between interfaces.
That's pretty good.  Chances are your Netgear can't get anywhere close
to that.  However, your Netgear probably also has a layer two switch
built in.  Switches have ASICs to do simple ethernet switching at wire
speed - 100 mbit/sec.  Comparing the throughput of a router to a dumb
switch is nowhere near a fair fight...

  Do a speed test with the Netgear routing - from the "Internet"
interface to any port on the switch and see how fast it is...

> I'm a bit puzzled that PBX-only mode is now the default, since that implies no traffic shaping, which I would have thought would guarantee problems whenever a big download or upload was in progress. What do people do in this situation? Use a separate internet connection? Or a clever router?

  PBX-Only is the default in terms of configuration but all of the
functionality is still there.  All you have to do is make sure the box
has two ethernet adapters (your net4801 has three), and uncomment
INTIF in rc.conf.  Now you are in router mode.  To activate traffic
shaping, simply define EXTUP and EXTDOWN.

> Anyway, I now want to enable the other ethernet ports on my box, and it's not obvious how to do this from reading rc.conf. My net4801 has seven ports (which now looks like a mistake). Assuming I was happy with slower speeds I still don't see how I can configure the unit to connect several phones or PCs to it. Is there a hidden assumption here that I'm missing, that an external router is always used? In PBX-only mode the phones connect to the EXTERNAL interface (the only one active by default), right? So the asterisk box is just another device on the internal LAN, rather than being physically connected between the phones and the external internet as I had assumed. If so, then I think I need to buy yet another router. :-(

  If your net4801 has seven ports you must have added the four port
ethernet adapter.  That's great, except that (like I mentioned above),
you will never see the same level of performance from this sollution.
Even IF you were to bridge the ports together to act like a switch,
the speed would be nowhere near wire speed on your net4801:

http://facweb.cti.depaul.edu/jyu/Publications/Yu-Linux-TSM2004.pdf

  As you can see, these tests were conducted with a 1.2ghz Duron
processor with TWO ethernet ports.  Your 266mhz Geode has seven :).


> I hope this is all clear. Maybe a couple of diagrams would help:
>
> 1. This is how I originally expected to connect things:
>             __________
>            |          |----IP Phone
> INTERNET---| astlinux |----IP Phone ...
>            |    box   |----Computer
>            |__________|----Computer ...
>
> 2. I now think PBX-only mode is meant to be connected like this:
>             ________
>            | Router |----IP Phone
>            |        |----IP Phone ...
> INTERNET---|        |    __________
>            |        |---| astlinux |
>            |        |   |    box   |
>            |________|   |__________|
>
> 3. And this is how I now think the PCs should be connected:
>             ________
>            | Router |----IP Phone
>            |        |----IP Phone
> INTERNET---|        |    __________      ________
>            |        |---| astlinux |----| Fast   |----Computer
>            |        |   |    box   |    | Router |----Computer ...
>            |________|   |__________|    |________|
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> --
> Phil McKerracher
> www.mckerracher.net
>

Phil,

  Your best bet is to connect your internet connection to eth0 and
connect a switch (not a router) to eth1 and then connect all of your
local devices to the switch.

-- 
Kristian Kielhofner

Re: [Astlinux-users] Connecting topology

[<v-c...@po...>]

Phil McKerracher <ph...@mc...> wrote:
> Happy New Year everybody, and thanks for all your replies to
> my earlier query on this subject on the old mailing list. 
>  
> I've held off replying while I did a bit more research about
> using astlinux as a router, to avoid making a complete fool
> of myself in public. But I still don't understand it all, so
> here goes anyway. :-)
>  
> I've got no problem with throttling my external connection
> to 90% of the available bandwidth to avoid queueing
> problems. Obviously it would be nice to have a system that
> copes with congestion without configuration, but I can live
> with it. 
>  
> I've discovered elsewhere that the net4801 won't cope with
> 100 Mbit/s ethernet routing (between PCs on my SoHo LAN) but
> should cope with my 4 Mbit/s internet connection OK. This is
> as I suspected, although it does make me wonder why my (much
> cheaper!) Netgear router copes with it all right -
> presumably it contains special hardware. This in turn makes
> me wonder whether the net4801 was a good choice of hardware
> for this sort of thing. Anyway, I think I can avoid all the
> speed problems by simply connecting my Netgear router
> downstream from the astlinux box, with my PCs connected to
> the router and my phones to the astlinux box. It's twice as
> much cable but what the heck.
> 
> I'm a bit puzzled that PBX-only mode is now the default,
> since that implies no traffic shaping, which I would have
> thought would guarantee problems whenever a big download or
> upload was in progress. What do people do in this situation?
> Use a separate internet connection? Or a clever router?
> 
> Anyway, I now want to enable the other ethernet ports on my
> box, and it's not obvious how to do this from reading
> rc.conf. My net4801 has seven ports (which now looks like a
> mistake). Assuming I was happy with slower speeds I still
> don't see how I can configure the unit to connect several
> phones or PCs to it. Is there a hidden assumption here that
> I'm missing, that an external router is always used? In
> PBX-only mode the phones connect to the EXTERNAL interface
> (the only one active by default), right? So the asterisk box
> is just another device on the internal LAN, rather than
> being physically connected between the phones and the
> external internet as I had assumed. If so, then I think I
> need to buy yet another router. :-(
> 
> I hope this is all clear. Maybe a couple of diagrams would
> help:
> 
> 1. This is how I originally expected to connect things:
>             __________           
>            |          |----IP Phone
> INTERNET---| astlinux |----IP Phone ...
>            |    box   |----Computer
>            |__________|----Computer ...
> 
> 2. I now think PBX-only mode is meant to be connected like
> this:
>             ________
>            | Router |----IP Phone
>            |        |----IP Phone ...
> INTERNET---|        |    __________
>            |        |---| astlinux |
>            |        |   |    box   |
>            |________|   |__________|
> 
> 3. And this is how I now think the PCs should be connected:
>             ________
>            | Router |----IP Phone
>            |        |----IP Phone
> INTERNET---|        |    __________      ________
>            |        |---| astlinux |----| Fast  
> |----Computer
>            |        |   |    box   |    | Router
> |----Computer ...
>            |________|   |__________|    |________|
> 
> Does that make sense?
> 
> --
> Phil McKerracher
> www.mckerracher.net
> 
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Re: [Astlinux-users] Keydisk on a CF partition

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hello,<br>
<br>
you just have to change grub.conf (/boot/grub/grub.conf)<br>
<br>
Default configuration doesn't use keydisk on CF.<br>
<font color=3D"#009900">astkd=3D/dev/hda2</font><br>
<br>
and reboot.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
Phil McKerracher a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
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can't get this to work, following the instructions on <a
 href=3D"http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux+Keydisk"=
>http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux+Keydisk</a>.</sp=
an></font></div>
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>I
can create the partition on the CF card (I only bought a 48 meg one,
but I think there's still enough room=C2=A0as long as=C2=A0I don't use vo=
icemail
or store phone configurations). It has to be created as a primary
partition which is missing from the note.</span></font></div>
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></span></font>=C2=A0</div>
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>I
can then run genkd /dev/hda2 (after a reboot) and it seems to
initialise the keydisk partition OK (although it seems to be necessary
to make the filesystem read/write, which is also missing from the
instructions). But if I then save everything and reboot, the /mnt/kd
folder is visible but it's empty apart from rc.conf. Has anyone got
this to work? What have I missed?</span></font></div>
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[Astlinux-users] Keydisk on a CF partition

[Phil M. <ph...@mc...>]

I can't get this to work, following the instructions on =
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=3DAstLinux+Keydisk.
=20
I can create the partition on the CF card (I only bought a 48 meg one, =
but I think there's still enough room as long as I don't use voicemail =
or store phone configurations). It has to be created as a primary =
partition which is missing from the note.
=20
I can then run genkd /dev/hda2 (after a reboot) and it seems to =
initialise the keydisk partition OK (although it seems to be necessary =
to make the filesystem read/write, which is also missing from the =
instructions). But if I then save everything and reboot, the /mnt/kd =
folder is visible but it's empty apart from rc.conf. Has anyone got this =
to work? What have I missed?
=20
For the moment, I'm back to using a memory stick on the USB port, which =
does work OK.
--=20
Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.net <http://www.mckerracher.net/>=20
=20
=20
=20

[Astlinux-users] Connecting topology

[Phil M. <ph...@mc...>]

Happy New Year everybody, and thanks for all your replies to my earlier =
query on this subject on the old mailing list.=20
=20
I've held off replying while I did a bit more research about using =
astlinux as a router, to avoid making a complete fool of myself in =
public. But I still don't understand it all, so here goes anyway. :-)
=20
I've got no problem with throttling my external connection to 90% of the =
available bandwidth to avoid queueing problems. Obviously it would be =
nice to have a system that copes with congestion without configuration, =
but I can live with it.=20
=20
I've discovered elsewhere that the net4801 won't cope with 100 Mbit/s =
ethernet routing (between PCs on my SoHo LAN) but should cope with my 4 =
Mbit/s internet connection OK. This is as I suspected, although it does =
make me wonder why my (much cheaper!) Netgear router copes with it all =
right - presumably it contains special hardware. This in turn makes me =
wonder whether the net4801 was a good choice of hardware for this sort =
of thing. Anyway, I think I can avoid all the speed problems by simply =
connecting my Netgear router downstream from the astlinux box, with my =
PCs connected to the router and my phones to the astlinux box. It's =
twice as much cable but what the heck.

I'm a bit puzzled that PBX-only mode is now the default, since that =
implies no traffic shaping, which I would have thought would guarantee =
problems whenever a big download or upload was in progress. What do =
people do in this situation? Use a separate internet connection? Or a =
clever router?

Anyway, I now want to enable the other ethernet ports on my box, and =
it's not obvious how to do this from reading rc.conf. My net4801 has =
seven ports (which now looks like a mistake). Assuming I was happy with =
slower speeds I still don't see how I can configure the unit to connect =
several phones or PCs to it. Is there a hidden assumption here that I'm =
missing, that an external router is always used? In PBX-only mode the =
phones connect to the EXTERNAL interface (the only one active by =
default), right? So the asterisk box is just another device on the =
internal LAN, rather than being physically connected between the phones =
and the external internet as I had assumed. If so, then I think I need =
to buy yet another router. :-(

I hope this is all clear. Maybe a couple of diagrams would help:

1. This is how I originally expected to connect things:
            __________          =20
           |          |----IP Phone
INTERNET---| astlinux |----IP Phone ...
           |    box   |----Computer
           |__________|----Computer ...

2. I now think PBX-only mode is meant to be connected like this:
            ________
           | Router |----IP Phone
           |        |----IP Phone ...
INTERNET---|        |    __________
           |        |---| astlinux |
           |        |   |    box   |
           |________|   |__________|

3. And this is how I now think the PCs should be connected:
            ________
           | Router |----IP Phone
           |        |----IP Phone
INTERNET---|        |    __________      ________
           |        |---| astlinux |----| Fast   |----Computer
           |        |   |    box   |    | Router |----Computer ...
           |________|   |__________|    |________|

Does that make sense?

--
Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.net

Re: [Astlinux-users] Booting From CF

[JohnZee <jo...@gm...>]

Morning,
Some additional information that might help
The jffs2 file is 10.6 MB. Does this seem about right for a default config
image? If so, it would seem that it could fit directly into the Gumstix
Flash and load from there.  ( I have not tried this yet)

I did locate the mkimage tool in the staging_dir/bin and ran it on the jffs2
image. It got me past the Bad Magic Number issue when I try to boot it. This
time however, it errors with an invalid instruction. I used a load address
of a2000000 and and entry point of a2000000 and specified no compression as
parameters to mkimage.

Of course, if my original image is bad, nothing is going to work. Do any
gumstix factory images exist yet?

Any pointers?
Thanks

On 12/26/06, JohnZee <jo...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Morning!
> Once again I need some help to proceed. I am trying to boot Astlinux from
> a CF card on a Netstix system. I have run:
>
> make
> make jffs2root
>
> and now have a .jffs2 file. I copied this to a CF card, renamed to uImage,
> along with a U-boot script to boot the image. U-boot recognizes the CF card
> and runs my script and attempts to load the image but then fails with "Bad
> Magic Number."  I don't know where this magic number is to be set or how to
> proceed from here.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks!
> John
>
> I am running U-Boot r1161 from the gumstix factory images
>
> the u-boot script is
>
> echo "Booting Astlinux System..."
>  set workedok Failed
>
> 	if fatload ide 0 a2000000 uImage; then
> 		set workedok Success
> 	fi
>  bootm a2000000
>
>
>

Re: [Astlinux-users] Asterisk 1.4 Challenges for AstLinux

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

On Dec 26, 2006, at 10:39 PM, Darrick Hartman wrote:

Thanks Darrick,
> Other strongly suggested aliases
> are webmaster and abuse.

Yes, I recently removed all my 'webmaster' mail user aliases because  
they were a conduit for spam.

I can deal with this 'postmaster' requirement for this list.  I just  
think it creates more problems than it solves.

Lonnie

Re: [Astlinux-users] Asterisk 1.4 Challenges for AstLinux

[Darrick H. <dha...@dj...>]

Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>   As far as the lists.sf.net question, I'm afraid that I don't quite
>> understand what you mean...
>>     
> To reduce spam guessing, my mail domains reject all mail not exactly  
> addressed to known users.  The sourceforge lists require a posting  
> email to have a 'postmaster' user in the same domain (or sub-domain)  
> as the sender.  (There are RFC's that say a 'postmaster' user should  
> be defined, but I have never quite understood why.)
>
> After defining a 'postmaster' user in my mail system, I was able to  
> post to this new list
>
> I am just curious the logic of requiring the 'postmaster' and not  
> creating a spam email channel.
>
>   
Lonnie,

I believe this is either strongly suggested or a requirement to be able 
to address abusive people on your domain.  Generally the postmaster 
account is an alias to an actual user.  Other strongly suggested aliases 
are webmaster and abuse.

Darrick

-- 
Darrick Hartman
DJH Solutions, LLC
http://www.djhsolutions.com

Re: [Astlinux-users] Asterisk 1.4 Challenges for AstLinux

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

>   It's not that big of a deal...
That is good news.

>   As far as the lists.sf.net question, I'm afraid that I don't quite
> understand what you mean...
To reduce spam guessing, my mail domains reject all mail not exactly  
addressed to known users.  The sourceforge lists require a posting  
email to have a 'postmaster' user in the same domain (or sub-domain)  
as the sender.  (There are RFC's that say a 'postmaster' user should  
be defined, but I have never quite understood why.)

After defining a 'postmaster' user in my mail system, I was able to  
post to this new list

I am just curious the logic of requiring the 'postmaster' and not  
creating a spam email channel.

Lonnie


> On 12/25/06, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
>> Kristian,
>>
>> I am curious if there are any major challenges merging asterisk 1.4
>> into AstLinux?
>>
>> Just some small hurdles or are there mountains to climb?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lonnie
>>
>> PS:  Interesting lists.sourceforge.net requires me to have a
>> postmaster address.  Do most people here simply auto-delete all
>> postmaster mail?  This seems very attractive to spammers.
>>
>
> Lonnie,
>
>   It's not that big of a deal.  I started work on it, but stalled
> because most important things came up and it wasn't even released yet
> :).  I'll get back to work on it now that there is an actual release.
>
>   As far as the lists.sf.net question, I'm afraid that I don't quite
> understand what you mean...
>
> -- 
> Kristian Kielhofner
>
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Re: [Astlinux-users] Asterisk 1.4 Challenges for AstLinux

[Kristian K. <kri...@gm...>]

On 12/25/06, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
> Kristian,
>
> I am curious if there are any major challenges merging asterisk 1.4
> into AstLinux?
>
> Just some small hurdles or are there mountains to climb?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lonnie
>
> PS:  Interesting lists.sourceforge.net requires me to have a
> postmaster address.  Do most people here simply auto-delete all
> postmaster mail?  This seems very attractive to spammers.
>

Lonnie,

  It's not that big of a deal.  I started work on it, but stalled
because most important things came up and it wasn't even released yet
:).  I'll get back to work on it now that there is an actual release.

  As far as the lists.sf.net question, I'm afraid that I don't quite
understand what you mean...

-- 
Kristian Kielhofner

[Astlinux-users] Booting From CF

[JohnZee <jo...@gm...>]

Morning!
Once again I need some help to proceed. I am trying to boot Astlinux from a
CF card on a Netstix system. I have run:

make
make jffs2root

and now have a .jffs2 file. I copied this to a CF card, renamed to uImage,
along with a U-boot script to boot the image. U-boot recognizes the CF card
and runs my script and attempts to load the image but then fails with "Bad
Magic Number."  I don't know where this magic number is to be set or how to
proceed from here.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
John

I am running U-Boot r1161 from the gumstix factory images

the u-boot script is

echo "Booting Astlinux System..."
 set workedok Failed
	if fatload ide 0 a2000000 uImage; then
		set workedok Success
	fi
 bootm a2000000

[Astlinux-users] Asterisk 1.4 Challenges for AstLinux

[Lonnie A. <li...@lo...>]

Kristian,

I am curious if there are any major challenges merging asterisk 1.4  
into AstLinux?

Just some small hurdles or are there mountains to climb?

Thanks,

Lonnie

PS:  Interesting lists.sourceforge.net requires me to have a  
postmaster address.  Do most people here simply auto-delete all  
postmaster mail?  This seems very attractive to spammers.