I am a very beginner ASTAP user. I have been experimenting with using ASTAP to make position and magnitude measurements of asteroids. I have some questions concerning the "MPC1992 report line" function. In particular, could you explain what the "B" means after the magnitude measurements in the two ASTAP-generated reports below?
I'm not sure, but I think the "B" indicates that the measurements were made in the "B" (blue?) band, and for some reason ASTAP used "B" as the default?
I used ASTAP's split into R,G,B files function to create separate R,G,B images of these asteroids from my one-shot color image. I then generated the magnitude and position reports from the G image using the MPC1992 report line function. If the letter "B" represents the band, shouldn't I manually change it to be reported as "G" or "V"?
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This is the standard
{ https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/info/OpticalObs.html
Columns Format Use
1 - 5 A5 Packed minor planet number
6 - 12 A7 Packed provisional designation, or a temporary designation
13 A1 Discovery asterisk
14 A1 Note 1
15 A1 Note 2
16 - 32 Date of observation
33 - 44 Observed RA (J2000.0)
45 - 56 Observed Decl. (J2000.0)
57 - 65 9X Must be blank
66 - 71 F5.2,A1 Observed magnitude and band
(or nuclear/total flag for comets)
72 - 77 X Must be blank
78 - 80 A3 Observatory code
I have build it last year and then left it. The B is currently hardcoded. But I could extract letter from the filter specified in the header. At this moment I do not know which letters they use but I assume at least V, B, R but I'm not sure about clear view. I can look into this.
Have you ever tried to report an observation?
I do not think "minor planet centre" is interested in amateur observations any more unless you have something like a 0.5 meter telescope at a very dark site. The current surveys pick up any visible object. Amateurs in general can not compete.
cs, Han
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Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. You answered my question by telling me the "B" is hard coded.
I am just tinkering with asteroid observing right now and toying with the idea of obtaining an MPC code for my backyard observing setup. I haven't tried to report any observations to the MPC.
By telling me that the "B" is hard coded, you told me exactly what I needed to know. The MPC web site lists all the available band codes so if, and when, I ever try to send a report the MPC, it will be a simple matter to manually replace the "B" with a "G" or "V". For me, ASTAP's MPC report function is fine as is. No need to invest any more time on this.
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Hello,
I am a very beginner ASTAP user. I have been experimenting with using ASTAP to make position and magnitude measurements of asteroids. I have some questions concerning the "MPC1992 report line" function. In particular, could you explain what the "B" means after the magnitude measurements in the two ASTAP-generated reports below?
00140 B2026 03 17.17362 11 22 18.65 +08 38 47.3 13.02B XXX
02117 B2026 03 17.17362 11 22 31.08 +08 25 18.7 16.31B XXX
I'm not sure, but I think the "B" indicates that the measurements were made in the "B" (blue?) band, and for some reason ASTAP used "B" as the default?
I used ASTAP's split into R,G,B files function to create separate R,G,B images of these asteroids from my one-shot color image. I then generated the magnitude and position reports from the G image using the MPC1992 report line function. If the letter "B" represents the band, shouldn't I manually change it to be reported as "G" or "V"?
Hi Russ,
This is the standard
{ https://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/info/OpticalObs.html
Columns Format Use
1 - 5 A5 Packed minor planet number
6 - 12 A7 Packed provisional designation, or a temporary designation
13 A1 Discovery asterisk
14 A1 Note 1
15 A1 Note 2
16 - 32 Date of observation
33 - 44 Observed RA (J2000.0)
45 - 56 Observed Decl. (J2000.0)
57 - 65 9X Must be blank
66 - 71 F5.2,A1 Observed magnitude and band
(or nuclear/total flag for comets)
72 - 77 X Must be blank
78 - 80 A3 Observatory code
I have build it last year and then left it. The B is currently hardcoded. But I could extract letter from the filter specified in the header. At this moment I do not know which letters they use but I assume at least V, B, R but I'm not sure about clear view. I can look into this.
Have you ever tried to report an observation?
I do not think "minor planet centre" is interested in amateur observations any more unless you have something like a 0.5 meter telescope at a very dark site. The current surveys pick up any visible object. Amateurs in general can not compete.
cs, Han
Hi Han,
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. You answered my question by telling me the "B" is hard coded.
I am just tinkering with asteroid observing right now and toying with the idea of obtaining an MPC code for my backyard observing setup. I haven't tried to report any observations to the MPC.
By telling me that the "B" is hard coded, you told me exactly what I needed to know. The MPC web site lists all the available band codes so if, and when, I ever try to send a report the MPC, it will be a simple matter to manually replace the "B" with a "G" or "V". For me, ASTAP's MPC report function is fine as is. No need to invest any more time on this.
In next version, I will take the first letter of the filter name. That is easy. If you succeed or have any problem with the format tell me.
I assume MPC is still interested in NEO, near earth observations.
Success, Han
Thank you, Han!