Re: [ast-users] Stock Track
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From: Michael W. <msw...@uw...> - 2006-11-15 15:49:17
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Hi Nick, I put the binary here: http://ast.sourceforge.net/ast-bin-svn-20061114.tar.= gz To install it, either use the install.pl or follow the directions in INSTAL= L.=20 You may have to adapt them slightly for your vhost. If you have any problem= s=20 please let me know! To build from svn: svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ast/trunk cd src =2E/autogen.sh # creates configure =2E/configure --enable-game make -j3 cp src/ast ../ Please let me know if you have any problems. =2D- Michael. On Tuesday 14 November 2006 23:18, Nick Nyberg wrote: > Hey Michael, > > Yes I have a server. I have a Virtual private server on go daddy and I > would love to help you guys out. I have a couple spare domains around to= o. > I have just been super busy with the side business and the full time job > been kicking my butt. I am not sure I know how to build the binary exact= ly > so if you could build it for me, or give me some directions I would love = to > learn. I have a whole crew of test users that have been working > feedthebull.com for me that we can release on the test server too. > > Did I mention how good you are? =3D) You're good... > > -Nick > > > > > > > Nick Nyberg | ni...@ho... | 303.845.4881 | http://www.HomeNetcc.com > HomeNet Consulting Company > "Small business I.T. consulting the way it should be." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Williamson [mailto:msw...@uw...] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:00 PM > To: Nick Nyberg > Cc: ast...@li... > Subject: Re: Stock Track > > Hi Nick, > > The latest SVN sources have support for rules and I've cleaned up the game > code a bit. There are few little polish things left to do, like push the > rule > limits back up to the user (e.g. it says you can't pick stocks on this > market, when instead it would be nicer to just not let them select that > market at all). The rules I have implemented are: > > 1. Minimum security price > 2. Limited markets > 3. Commissions > 4. Maximum / Minimum investment in one security > 5. Maximum number of holdings > 6. Disable selling > > I haven't done anything with dividends yet. Here is what I was thinking: A > script that runs nightly and looks for dividends and records the > transaction. > The only potential problem here is I don't know how timely the dividend > data > > is. > > Now I think we need to do some beta testing. I'm not sure how to organise > this > exactly. If you are interested in hosting something that would be great. > Otherwise I have a server but I don't want to publish the URL, so maybe > I'll > > do it invite only. > > If you would like me to build a binary for you let me know (I have a scri= pt > that does this). Remember that you have to configure with --enable-game to > actually get this code. Let me know what you think. Thanks. > > -- Michael. > > On Friday 06 October 2006 15:28, Nick Nyberg wrote: > > Hey Michael, > > > > You are correct, I don't believe there is any software out there that > > currently provides this functionality. Google does although have a list > > of > > > sites that you can use to sign up: > > http://www.google.com/Top/Business/Investing/Games/ > > > > So, I like the idea they have here, some of these actually offer a priz= e. > > I was sort of thinking the same thing with my site although a $100,000 > > prize is way out of my league. I was thinking like a trophy or > > something. > > > > The problem is that people can no implement these on their own sites, a= nd > > its not obviously open source. It looks like you have already put way > > more > > > thought into it that I have. =3D) > > > > I think the maximum investment in a stock is something that should be an > > option, the reason is we're basically letting people simulate trading > > with a real $100,000. It may not be the best idea, but if people wanted > > to do it then it would be allowed by any broker. I think the same thing > > with > > the > > > dividends. I see your point though about artificially inflating, but... > > again if we want to simulate then people should be allowed to do that. > > > > Other options are,: > > Max trades per day. > > Do they have to pay a commission to make the trades / how much? > > What markets they can enter. Is it a NASDAQ only challenge? > > Obviously we'll have to execute trades like the market would with market > > trades, limit trades. > > > > Those are the ones that comes to mind. No, I don=92t mind the e-mail g= oing > > out to the mailing list, in fact I replied to all. > > > > You also said very soon, does that mean development has started already? > > I > > > am a pretty much a newbie at .php but I am learning as I go so I can do > > what I can to help. > > > > -Nick > > > > > > > > > > Nick=A0Nyberg > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Williamson [mailto:msw...@uw...] > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:17 PM > > To: Nick Nyberg; ast...@li... > > Subject: Re: Stock Track > > > > Hi Nick, > > > > This is actually a commonly requested feature. As far as I know, there = is > > no > > > > software out there that meets these needs. I think that I will implement > > this > > feature in (near) future... Here is what I was thinking: > > > > 1. When creating a portfolio, give the user the option to create > > a "competition portfolio". The user would select the type, which could = be > > defined the administrator. > > > > 2. The administrator can create different portfolio types with different > > rules. There will be some pre-built rules, such as a min # of stocks, m= ax > > investment in a stock, etc. In addition, you can define custom rules > > (that apply to one security probably) by writing expressions on the > > portfolio. One > > > > thing we need to do is brainstorm what rules we need. > > > > 3. There will be a status page (or various status pages) where you can > > see who > > is winning, lossing, biggest gainer in the week, etc. > > > > 4. Disable recording of dividends on a competition portfolio, but need a > > way > > > > to otherwise account for stock splits (and possibly dividends if you wa= nt > > them to be counted). If the user could record dividends, they could > > obvious > > > inflate the gains. > > > > 5. Probably want to have a page where a user can create an account > > (currently > > only admin can). This has also been requested a couple of times. > > > > 6. Ability to define a contest end date, after which the portfolio is no > > longer updated. I'm not quite sure how this would be handled... looking > > up historical quotes or somehow modifying the portfolio database. > > > > 7. Probably would like to be able to copy old contests and change the e= nd > > date. > > > > 8. Allow read-only sharing on portfolios so that other users can browse > > them > > > > (should be easy since read-write sharing is already implemented). > > > > 9. You may wish to disable certain features in AST, such as stock > > screener that can cause high load if you have many users. > > > > 10. Maybe a permission level that says users can or cannot join > > competitions? > > How to limit these to a group of users (since AST has no groups). > > > > 11. Should this be an option in system settings or a compile-time optio= n? > > Probably compile time until it is stabilized. > > > > I apologize for the length of this email, its sort of a to-do list for > > me. Please let me know if you have any ideas for #4 and which filters we > > need (#2). I hope you don't mind I edited your message a bit and CC-ed > > the mailing > > list. > > > > Thanks for your input. > > > > -- Michael. > > > > On Thursday 05 October 2006 13:34, you wrote: > > > Hey Michael, > > > > > > Awesome program, I just read the details on source forge and am > > uploading > > > > to my host now. I have a couple questions if you don't mind. One > > > idea that we had was to incorporate a stock trading program that would > > > allow users to compete. Basically monthly you log onto the site and > > make > > > > purchases/shorts etc with $100,000 fake money and the user with the > > > most money at the end of the month hopefully wins a prize, or a trophy > > > or something.So this is where your software came in. I didn't find > > anything > > > > similar but thought yours might work for this, any ideas or suggestio= ns > > > before I get started? > > > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > > > Nick |