Re: [ast-users] Stock Track

[Michael W. <msw...@uw...>]

Hi Nick,

I put the binary here: http://ast.sourceforge.net/ast-bin-svn-20061114.tar.=
gz
To install it, either use the install.pl or follow the directions in INSTAL=
L.=20
You may have to adapt them slightly for your vhost. If you have any problem=
s=20
please let me know!

To build from svn:
svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ast/trunk
cd src
=2E/autogen.sh # creates configure
=2E/configure --enable-game
make -j3
cp src/ast ../

Please let me know if you have any problems.

=2D- Michael.

On Tuesday 14 November 2006 23:18, Nick Nyberg wrote:
> Hey Michael,
>
> Yes I have a server.  I have a Virtual private server on go daddy and I
> would love to help you guys out.  I have a couple spare domains around to=
o.
> I have just been super busy with the side business and the full time job
> been kicking my butt.  I am not sure I know how to build the binary exact=
ly
> so if you could build it for me, or give me some directions I would love =
to
> learn.  I have a whole crew of test users that have been working
> feedthebull.com for me that we can release on the test server too.
>
> Did I mention how good you are?  =3D) You're good...
>
> -Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nick Nyberg | ni...@ho... | 303.845.4881 | http://www.HomeNetcc.com
> HomeNet Consulting Company
> "Small business I.T. consulting the way it should be."
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Williamson [mailto:msw...@uw...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:00 PM
> To: Nick Nyberg
> Cc: ast...@li...
> Subject: Re: Stock Track
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> The latest SVN sources have support for rules and I've cleaned up the game
> code a bit. There are few little polish things left to do, like push the
> rule
> limits back up to the user (e.g. it says you can't pick stocks on this
> market, when instead it would be nicer to just not let them select that
> market at all). The rules I have implemented are:
>
> 1. Minimum security price
> 2. Limited markets
> 3. Commissions
> 4. Maximum / Minimum investment in one security
> 5. Maximum number of holdings
> 6. Disable selling
>
> I haven't done anything with dividends yet. Here is what I was thinking: A
> script that runs nightly and looks for dividends and records the
> transaction.
> The only potential problem here is I don't know how timely the dividend
> data
>
> is.
>
> Now I think we need to do some beta testing. I'm not sure how to organise
> this
> exactly. If you are interested in hosting something that would be great.
> Otherwise I have a server but I don't want to publish the URL, so maybe
> I'll
>
> do it invite only.
>
> If you would like me to build a binary for you let me know (I have a scri=
pt
> that does this). Remember that you have to configure with --enable-game to
> actually get this code. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
>
> -- Michael.
>
> On Friday 06 October 2006 15:28, Nick Nyberg wrote:
> > Hey Michael,
> >
> > You are correct, I don't believe there is any software out there that
> > currently provides this functionality.  Google does although have a list
>
> of
>
> > sites that you can use to sign up:
> > http://www.google.com/Top/Business/Investing/Games/
> >
> > So, I like the idea they have here, some of these actually offer a priz=
e.
> > I was sort of thinking the same thing with my site although a $100,000
> > prize is way out of my league.  I was thinking like a trophy or
> > something.
> >
> > The problem is that people can no implement these on their own sites, a=
nd
> > its not obviously open source.  It looks like you have already put way
>
> more
>
> > thought into it that I have.  =3D)
> >
> > I think the maximum investment in a stock is something that should be an
> > option, the reason is we're basically letting people simulate trading
> > with a real $100,000.  It may not be the best idea, but if people wanted
> > to do it then it would be allowed by any broker.  I think the same thing
> > with
>
> the
>
> > dividends.  I see your point though about artificially inflating, but...
> > again if we want to simulate then people should be allowed to do that.
> >
> > Other options are,:
> > Max trades per day.
> > Do they have to pay a commission to make the trades / how much?
> > What markets they can enter.  Is it a NASDAQ only challenge?
> > Obviously we'll have to execute trades like the market would with market
> > trades, limit trades.
> >
> > Those are the ones that comes to mind.  No, I don=92t mind the e-mail g=
oing
> > out to the mailing list, in fact I replied to all.
> >
> > You also said very soon, does that mean development has started already?
>
> I
>
> > am a pretty much a newbie at .php but I am learning as I go so I can do
> > what I can to help.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick=A0Nyberg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Williamson [mailto:msw...@uw...]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:17 PM
> > To: Nick Nyberg; ast...@li...
> > Subject: Re: Stock Track
> >
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > This is actually a commonly requested feature. As far as I know, there =
is
> > no
> >
> > software out there that meets these needs. I think that I will implement
> > this
> > feature in (near) future... Here is what I was thinking:
> >
> > 1. When creating a portfolio, give the user the option to create
> > a "competition portfolio". The user would select the type, which could =
be
> > defined the administrator.
> >
> > 2. The administrator can create different portfolio types with different
> > rules. There will be some pre-built rules, such as a min # of stocks, m=
ax
> > investment in a stock, etc. In addition, you can define custom rules
> > (that apply to one security probably) by writing expressions on the
> > portfolio. One
> >
> > thing we need to do is brainstorm what rules we need.
> >
> > 3. There will be a status page (or various status pages) where you can
> > see who
> > is winning, lossing, biggest gainer in the week, etc.
> >
> > 4. Disable recording of dividends on a competition portfolio, but need a
> > way
> >
> > to otherwise account for stock splits (and possibly dividends if you wa=
nt
> > them to be counted). If the user could record dividends, they could
>
> obvious
>
> > inflate the gains.
> >
> > 5. Probably want to have a page where a user can create an account
> > (currently
> > only admin can). This has also been requested a couple of times.
> >
> > 6. Ability to define a contest end date, after which the portfolio is no
> > longer updated. I'm not quite sure how this would be handled... looking
> > up historical quotes or somehow modifying the portfolio database.
> >
> > 7. Probably would like to be able to copy old contests and change the e=
nd
> > date.
> >
> > 8. Allow read-only sharing on portfolios so that other users can browse
> > them
> >
> > (should be easy since read-write sharing is already implemented).
> >
> > 9. You may wish to disable certain features in AST, such as stock
> > screener that can cause high load if you have many users.
> >
> > 10. Maybe a permission level that says users can or cannot join
> > competitions?
> > How to limit these to a group of users (since AST has no groups).
> >
> > 11. Should this be an option in system settings or a compile-time optio=
n?
> > Probably compile time until it is stabilized.
> >
> > I apologize for the length of this email, its sort of a to-do list for
> > me. Please let me know if you have any ideas for #4 and which filters we
> > need (#2). I hope you don't mind I edited your message a bit and CC-ed
> > the mailing
> > list.
> >
> > Thanks for your input.
> >
> > -- Michael.
> >
> > On Thursday 05 October 2006 13:34, you wrote:
> > > Hey Michael,
> > >
> > > Awesome program, I just read the details on source forge and am
>
> uploading
>
> > > to my host now.  I have a couple questions if you don't mind.  One
> > > idea that we had was to incorporate a stock trading program that would
> > > allow users to compete.  Basically monthly you log onto the site and
>
> make
>
> > > purchases/shorts etc with $100,000 fake money and the user with the
> > > most money at the end of the month hopefully wins a prize, or a trophy
> > > or something.So this is where your software came in.  I didn't find
>
> anything
>
> > > similar but thought yours might work for this, any ideas or suggestio=
ns
> > > before I get started?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time!
> > >
> > > Nick