Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead of CPAN modules (Debian/Ubuntu)

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Just asking - I came across another project, 'Apache Tika'. Would 
leveraging this be of benefit to ASSP - possibly eliminating a number of 
CPAN dependencies?  I see there's a preliminary module in CPAN (not that 
we want another dependency) but it looks like a tiny wrapper around 
basic XHTML calls.

Daniel

On 3/19/2017 12:53 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I don't want to maintain these modules on CPAN. They are provided as 
> assp package at SF and they are included in the assp module installer. 
> Possibly I'll include them in the assp/lib folder in future. Another 
> way to solve this would be to eliminate the requirement of these 
> modules in a future release of the ASSP_OCR plugin.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: "Matt ." <yam...@gm...>
> An: For Users of ASSP <ass...@li...>
> Datum: 16.03.2017 17:34
> Betreff: Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead of CPAN modules 
>  (Debian/Ubuntu)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Thomas,
>
> Any reply on this ? Would be great to have your fixed in CPAN!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
> 2017-03-10 12:02 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yam...@gm...>:
> > Thomas,
> >
> > Because of being ill I wasn't able to pick this up, but I think it
> > would be great is you takeover co-maint of these modules and shovlle
> > your fixes in. Are you willing to do so ?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > 2017-02-08 8:52 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yam...@gm...>:
> >> Hi Thomas, I will see what I can do. Why not move to GitHub as well,
> >> this will be nice for PRs and such. Have a good vacation!
> >>
> >> 2017-02-08 5:57 GMT+01:00 Thomas Eckardt <Tho...@th...>:
> >>> It would be nice if someone else could do this (easy) job. I'm 
> still in
> >>> vacation, let's talk about this at the end of the month again.
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Von:        "Matt ." <yam...@gm...>
> >>> An:        For Users of ASSP <ass...@li...>
> >>> Datum:        07.02.2017 17:27
> >>> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead of 
> CPAN modules
> >>> (Debian/Ubuntu)
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thomas,
> >>>
> >>> I have had contact with Leo and we need a new maintainer for his
> >>> modules. Are you willing to be a candidate to his modules so you can
> >>> edit them and they will be fine @ cpan ?
> >>>
> >>> /me is no perl guy by default so I can so but it's less handy I think
> >>> to start with me.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Matt
> >>>
> >>> 2017-02-07 13:42 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yam...@gm...>:
> >>>> OK guys I mailed the maintainer of these modules as it seems he 
> it not
> >>>> that active on Development anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keep you updated.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2017-02-07 13:21 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yam...@gm...>:
> >>>>> Nice to know, thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some strange question maybe, will it be fixed or will we need to use
> >>>>> the packages from SF for the future ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2017-02-07 12:37 GMT+01:00 Thomas Eckardt 
> <Tho...@th...>:
> >>>>>> PDF::Burst (and other LEOCHARRE modules) are broken in Perl 
> 5.24 and
> >>>>>> 5.22.
> >>>>>> They use 'defined %hash' , which causes a syntax error on these 
> Perl
> >>>>>> versions.
> >>>>>> Corrected packages for all broken modules are available at 
> sourceforge
> >>>>>> or in
> >>>>>> assp.mod.zip.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Even you used the OS package manager to install Perl modules. 
> Keep your
> >>>>>> perl
> >>>>>> uptodate with : >cpan-outdated -p|cpanm -n
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thomas
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Von:        "Matt ." <yam...@gm...>
> >>>>>> An:        For Users of ASSP <ass...@li...>
> >>>>>> Datum:        07.02.2017 10:48
> >>>>>> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead of 
> CPAN
> >>>>>> modules
> >>>>>> (Debian/Ubuntu)
> >>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Martin,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm refiring myself to your docs as well at the moment and will 
> update
> >>>>>> in a comment when needed. What I see is that people have issues 
> with
> >>>>>> PDF::Burst as also shown in your comments:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2017-02-07 10:30 GMT+01:00  <m.h...@ev...>:
> >>>>>>> Matt,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I keep my own documentation and put it online with my future 
> self as
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> target audience (https://vorkbaard.nl/assp-on-debian-8/). I 
> didn't know
> >>>>>>> there was a wiki, other than a virtually empty one at 
> Sourceforge. Can
> >>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>> tell me where I can find it? Also: which docs? I tend to use 
> the inline
> >>>>>>> documentation in the web interface. Apart from a couple typos, 
> that's
> >>>>>>> reasonably complete. You have to read very carefully but if 
> you do it
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> quite exhaustive (kudos to mr. Eckardt).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What's missing is entry-level documentation. Sure, ASSP is 
> targeted at
> >>>>>>> professional environments but - in my case anyway - it has 
> also been a
> >>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>> starting point for learning about spam filtering and e-mail in 
> general.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Martin
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From:        "Matt ." <yam...@gm...>
> >>>>>>> To:        For Users of ASSP <ass...@li...>
> >>>>>>> Date:        06-02-2017 21:18
> >>>>>>> Subject:        Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead 
> of CPAN
> >>>>>>> modules
> >>>>>>> (Debian/Ubuntu)
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Martin,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks a lot! Let's keep mailinglist and docs/wiki whatever active
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2017-02-06 16:49 GMT+01:00  <m.h...@ev...>:
> >>>>>>>> Matt,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There's two things you can check:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. Command line: in ASSP's installation directory read the file
> >>>>>>>> moduleLoadErrors.txt.
> >>>>>>>> 2. Web interface:  from the link in the top bar click 'Info 
> and Stats'
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> on the bottom of that page click on the bar called 'Perl 
> Modules'.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Martin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From:        "Matt ." <yam...@gm...>
> >>>>>>>> To:        For Users of ASSP <ass...@li...>
> >>>>>>>> Date:        06-02-2017 14:05
> >>>>>>>> Subject:        Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead 
> of CPAN
> >>>>>>>> modules
> >>>>>>>> (Debian/Ubuntu)
> >>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the updates about it, I used these and it looks 
> good. I was
> >>>>>>>> searching all packages on module::name or 'lib <module> perl' 
> and a
> >>>>>>>> lot of them show up like it but there are too many 
> overlapping ones it
> >>>>>>>> looks like.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What I wonder is how we can keep this list up-to-date. I 
> tried to go
> >>>>>>>> Full-CPAN as wel but it seems to be impossible to do.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What I also wonder is are you sure you have all needed packages
> >>>>>>>> installed now, is there some check to do in/for ASSP ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2017-02-06 11:34 GMT+01:00  <m.h...@ev...>:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Matt,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Some Perl modules depend on packages to be installed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Debian 8/Ubuntu I'm installing these OS based packages:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> libnet-dns-perl libauthen-sasl-perl libmail-spf-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libregexp-optimizer-perl libfile-readbackwards-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libnetaddr-ip-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libnet-cidr-lite-perl libmail-dkim-perl libnet-ldap-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libunicode-string-perl libemail-mime-perl libtext-unidecode-perl
> >>>>>>>>> liblingua-stem-snowball-perl libsys-cpu-perl libthreads-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libschedule-cron-perl libdigest-sha-perl libmime-types-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libclamav-client-perl libarchive-zip-perl libberkeleydb-perl
> >>>>>>>>> liblingua-identify-perl libsys-cpuload-perl 
> libthreads-shared-perl
> >>>>>>>>> libunicode-linebreak-perl
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Then these OS based packages as dependencies for certain CPAN
> >>>>>>>>> modules:
> >>>>>>>>> Module:           Dependency (needs):
> >>>>>>>>> OCR modules:                 libgd2-xpm-dev
> >>>>>>>>> Crypt::OpenSSL::AES:           libssl-dev
> >>>>>>>>> Image::OCR::Tesseract:         tesseract-ocr and imagemagick
> >>>>>>>>> PDF::OCR and PDF::OCR2:        xpdf
> >>>>>>>>> installing Perl modules from CPAN: make and build-essential
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Finally these CPAN modules:
> >>>>>>>>> Digest::SHA1 LWP::Simple Net::IP::Match::Regexp Net::SMTP
> >>>>>>>>> Net::SenderBase
> >>>>>>>>> Net::Syslog Thread::State File::PathInfo 
> <File://:PathInfo>LEOCHARRE::DEBUG
> >>>>>>>>> LEOCHARRE::CLI
> >>>>>>>>> Tie::RDBM Sys::CpuAffinity Sys::MemInfo Unicode::GCString
> >>>>>>>>> Mail::DKIM::Verifier PDF::Burst PDF::GetImages 
> Crypt::OpenSSL::AES
> >>>>>>>>> Image::OCR::Tesseract PDF::OCR PDF::OCR2 Email::Send
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure this is what you're looking for but it is what 
> works for
> >>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> Debian.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All CPAN would be better in my opinion. Debian packages are good
> >>>>>>>>> because
> >>>>>>>>> they play nice with the rest of the OS so that's why I try 
> and use
> >>>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> most. I'm don't know about other distros' statuses regarding
> >>>>>>>>> prepackaged
> >>>>>>>>> Perl modules.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hope that helps,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Martin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From:        "Matt ." <yam...@gm...>
> >>>>>>>>> To:        For Users of ASSP <ass...@li...>
> >>>>>>>>> Date:        06-02-2017 00:47
> >>>>>>>>> Subject:        Re: [Assp-user] Provide package list instead 
> of CPAN
> >>>>>>>>> modules
> >>>>>>>>> (Debian/Ubuntu)
> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I figured out it's very difficult to find the right packages 
> for:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> #  Email::Send/2.192 (could be the sender package)
> >>>>>>>>> #  Net::SMTP/2.31
> >>>>>>>>> #  Net::SenderBase/1.01
> >>>>>>>>> #  Net::Syslog/0.03
> >>>>>>>>> #  PerlIO::scalar/0.05
> >>>>>>>>> #  threads/1.74
> >>>>>>>>> #  threads::shared/1.32
> >>>>>>>>> #  Thread::Queue/2.11
> >>>>>>>>> #  Thread::State/0.09
> >>>>>>>>> #  Tie::DBI/1.02
> >>>>>>>>> #  Time::HiRes/1.9707
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> #  LEOCHARRE::DEBUG
> >>>>>>>>> #  LEOCHARRE::CLI
> >>>>>>>>> #  PDF::Burst/1.10
> >>>>>>>>> #  PDF::GetImages/1.10
> >>>>>>>>> #  Image::OCR::Tesseract/1.10
> >>>>>>>>> #  PDF::OCR/1.09
> >>>>>>>>> #  PDF::OCR2/1.20
> >>>>>>>>> #  LEOCHARRE::DEBUG/1.14
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any more clear explanation in the docs about it would be nice as
> >>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2017-02-05 23:39 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yam...@gm...>:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm testing out which CPAN modules are easy to install and 
> which
> >>>>>>>>>> packages are compared to them.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Why is there no package list provided next to the CPAN 
> modules per
> >>>>>>>>>> Distro ? On Ubuntu for an example some CPAN modules cannot be
> >>>>>>>>>> installed and there are lib packages in Ubuntu already for 
> them.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If some one has a package list available for multiple distro's
> >>>>>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>>>>> post them to compare.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 
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