[Assp-test] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Feature request

[Thomas E. <Tho...@th...>]

Tom,

OK - assume we've resolved all the IP's for all detected hostnames in 
URIBL - this could be a hundred IP's for a single hostname!
Who do you want to ask, if these IP's are good or bad? The URIBL providers 
? They already know the hostname and we've already ask them about .
Asking a RBL provider would be bad, because they only know bad SMTP hosts.
Also our block/black lists are only SMTP related - not HTTP/FTP...

>These are what I want the capability to detect no matter what the 
host/domain name is on the URL.

Where do you want to get those IP lists from? 

Thomas


Von:    TR Shaw <ts...@oi...>
An:     ASSP development mailing list <ass...@li...>
Datum:  06.01.2012 14:51
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Antwort:  Feature request




Thomas,

They are not (or at least not as in how I was asking for).  To be 
explicit, I was asking for another option in the URBL processing areas to 
for the following:

Extract all url's from the body of the email
Extract hosts from the url's
Convert host to DNS query of URBLs and check URIBLs
-->NEW OPTION<--
Get IP from Host
Convert IP into a DNSBL like DNS query using another set of DNSBL entries 
(lets call ut the HOSTIPBL)
-->END OF NEW<--

Why you ask? Because URIBL's use a number of techniques but they all 
require the existence of the domain/host in order to list.  There are a 
lot of "bullet proof hosters out there as well as bogus ESP's who control 
known IP blocks, stolen 'hijacked' netblocks and netblocks controlled 
entirely by professional spammers.  These are what I want the capability 
to detect no matter what the host/domain name is on the URL.  This will 
catch URLs before the get listed in a URIBL.

Tom


On Jan 6, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:

> URIBL = detect 'WEB-SERVER" URL's that are bad 
> DNSBL = detect 'SMTP-SERVER-IP's ' that should not send mails
> 
> These are two different things, each one has nothing to do with the 
other.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von:    TR Shaw <ts...@oi...>
> An:     ASSP development mailing list <ass...@li...>
> Datum:  06.01.2012 01:19
> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Feature request
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would like an option to, for every url processed with URIBL's, convert 

> the host name to IP and then query the DNSBL's.
> 
> Tom
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