Re: [Assp-user] How do you get into the forums?

[Ged W. <gw...@gh...>]

Scott,

I understand the frustration.  I think that the thought was that since
the stable releases of ASSP are released on sf and there been a forum
for ASSP on sf from the beginning of the project it made sense to
continue to host it there.  I also think that part of the reason was to
take control away from any one person so that we didn't have another
experience like the one with asspsmtp.org, where the admin gets angry
and pulls the plug.

I do however agree with you that we could make the forums a little more
user friendly, and I for one would vote that you be given admin
privileges to moderate and maintain the assp forums on sf.net.  I don't
have high enough privileges to grant you that access, but it is my
recommendation that you be given that access so that we can improve the
end user experience.

Ged

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Haneda [mailto:tal...@ne...] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:09 PM
To: Spyros Tsiolis
Cc: For Users of ASSP
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] How do you get into the forums?

Thank you!
I do not get it, it is as if every aspect of ASSP outside the actual  
dev mailing list and of course the great software it is, is a little  
bit of a pain.  The users mailing list is very low traffic, I try to  
lend a hand there when I can.  I just found out the other day, the  
forums are apparently the preferred place to go.

I resisted the forums in the past, but I tried to use them again.  I  
see a very familiar phpBB set of forums, and see no "register" link,  
which was just strange.  On a lark, I click "login" and I am greeted  
with an http auth box.

So now, I have to know to go to sf.net and get an account there?  I  
did so, used a login name I wanted to change, to find out I can not.   
Then I find out, you can not, in any way, delete a sf.net account.  So  
I login, change my email address to mailinator and abandon that account.

Curious, what happened to my old data that was in the old forums, who  
ended up with that data?

It is in phpBB, but wrapped up in http auth, which is so incredibly  
confusing to the end user.  I emailed a listed admin a few months  
back, when the whole wiki and forums disappeared, offering to simply  
host them at my colo.  Nothing.

So I put the offer out again, happy to install phpBB, import the old  
data, and give a user a normal, not bound to sf.net joining  
experience.  I will publicly state now, if at any time, any admin  
wants the data, they can have it.  I will publicly offer to maintain  
the forums, manage spam, and actually reply to emails and support  
issues that go with managing a forum.  Heck, I will even buy a domain  
and register it in the name of ASSP so it is less confusing to end  
users.

If I see an http auth box, I assume, this is a admin only, invite only  
forum.  I bet most others assume that as well.  How many take the time  
to post here and find out?  At the very least, delegate the current  
forums to someone who will maintain them, create a sub forum called  
"Trouble  accessing the forum", and explain it in there.  Not idea,  
but better.

Thanks for listening.

On Jun 3, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Spyros Tsiolis wrote:

> Niiice,
>
> So in essence, all the people on this list who need info to make
> ASSP work properly are basically, more or less, kicked out  
> automatically,
> since whatever we post, there is not one person authoritative to  
> answer.
> I mean someone from the people who actually do active developing on  
> ASSP.
>
> Hmmmm  ! Interesting.
>
> Any ideas here Fritz ? (Dare I ask) ?
>
> Because if you people don't want us using ASSP, just let us know.
> I've done it before (abandoning an open-source product that I use
> _FOR PRODUCTION_ networks _NOT_ playing around) and I am going to do  
> it again. Whenever is needed.

-- 
Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *


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