Re: [j-devel] Mac accelerator keys?

[Frank C. <fc...@pu...>]

Mac OS X user here: All the Control keys on a PC should be Command keys 
on a Mac. It just feels right to use the Command key and very 
un-Mac-ish to use a mix of Command and Control.

-Frank

On Jan 6, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Peter Graves wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 at 13:53:23 -0500, Brian Mastenbrook wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Mikol Graves wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, simply replacing Control with Command is probably not
>>> sufficient. Consider these examples: Command Right is reserved by OS 
>>> X
>>> for changing the keyboard layout to the "current layout of Roman
>>> script" (whatever that means), Command Shift Right is expected to
>>> select to the end of the current line (rather than the current word),
>>> and to select to the end of the current word, you would use Option
>>> Shift Right (where Option == Alt); OS X reserves a slew of key
>>> combinations for all sorts of arbitrary (and questionable: e.g.,
>>> Command Option / to turn off font smoothing) shortcuts. [1]
>>>
>>> So not only would programatically reassigning CTRL_MASK be incorrect
>>> from the Apple HIG perspective, but doing so would often fail and 
>>> could
>>> lead to confusion or worse.
>>
>> I think the right solution here might be to use the command key for a
>> select few keys (open, close, etc) and use control for everything 
>> else.
>> That way "standard" keys would follow the standard keybindings and
>> J-specific keys would still use control. Thoughts?
>
> That sounds fine to me, but it's really something for the Mac OS X
> users to decide upon (within reason, of course).
>
> In the light of Mikol's comments above, it certainly sounds like
> programmatically remapping CTRL_MASK would be the wrong thing to do,
> and manually reviewing all the control key mappings in all the modes
> would be a big and tedious job.
>
> My only other thought on this subject is that there might be a few
> folks (like me, possibly, if I ever used OS X) who would actually
> prefer j's "normal" key bindings on OS X because they were basically
> used to j (on another platform) and strangers to OS X (because they
> were just using it for some small ad hoc task, like fixing j's key
> bindings), so it might be nice if keeping the "normal" keymap were also
> an option (it shouldn't be hard to do).
>
> -Peter
>
>
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