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[Arianne-general] Permission to translate your article at http://arianne.sourceforge.net

[Jovana M. <jo...@we...>]

Dear Sir,

My name is Jovana. I found your article extremely interesting and would 
like to spread the word for people from Ex Yugoslavia.

Here's the URL of your article: 
http://arianne.sourceforge.net/engine/marauroa.html

Would you mind if I translate your article to Serbo-Croatian language 
and post it on our site?
My purpose is to help people from Ex Yugoslavia better understand some 
very useful information about computer science.

Some quick info about myself:
I was born in Yugoslavia, Europe. Former Yugoslavia consisted of now 
totally independent states like Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia & 
Hercezovina, Slovenia and Macedonia, which are all united by 
Serbo-Croatian language.
I'm currently studying Computer Science at the University of 
Belgrade,Serbia.


With Kind Regards,

Jovana Milutinovich
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Tel: +381 63 8049100

[Arianne-general] Players from other countries

[<po...@ja...>]

I would like to ask whether it is possible that a player from other countries such as Russia or China could create an account and play Stendhal?
They also have specific other than the Latin alphabet. The database shall adopt such letters?

Marek Jaglarz
Poland

[Arianne-general] Stendhal

[Modman 88 <mod...@gm...>]

First of all I would like to say that I am a fan of your Stendhal
game.  I was wondering where you obtained the various graphics
(players, tiles, objects, etc).  I was thinking of developing
something using isometric graphics and the ones displayed in this game
seem prefect.  Are these graphics free to use?  I've seen other games
that use these sprites.

I have found a bunch of sites that list various graphics to use.  I
just thought I would see what you have to say, as I am looking for
just one or a couple sites that have all the isometric graphics that I
could use without limits or legal issues (copyrights, royaltys, etc).

Thank you for your time.

[Arianne-general] Does Stendhal need a translation into some languages?

[Tengfei S. <u49...@an...>]

 hi guys, I have great interest in helping the development of this game,does the game support for multi-language?  Because many of my Asian friends like this game too. maybe I can do the translation  into other languages for the game..... Japanese or  Chinese.

Fei  :)

[Arianne-general] Testmail

[Hendrik B. <nh...@ne...>]

Testmail

[Arianne-general] OSS Usability Evaluation

[Arif R. <ar...@uw...>]

Hi there

Please find below a link to a survey related to my PhD research work to evaluate OSS usability improvement from OSS User's point of view.
It shall not not take more than 5 minutes of your precious time. 
Your identity is neither required nor recorded. The participation is highly valued and appreciated.
 
http://www.kwiksurveys.com/online-survey.php?surveyID=IMKDI_1d655cd1

Thank you and Best Regards

Arif Raza

Re: [Arianne-general] problems to install marauroa

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Re: [Arianne-general] problems to install marauroa

[Hendrik B. <nh...@ne...>]

Hi Klaus,

Sorry, we cannot help you without any kind of error message.


The ant run failing is mostlikly caused by an incomplete version of ant 
in the Debian package system.
Just download it from http://ant.apache.org

Yes, there is a compiled version and it is in the default file list in 
the download section at
http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=1111
So you don't even need to click on "Browse all files".


Back then when i installed Stendhal Server for the first time, i 
followed the "Stendhal localhost server on Windows XP® - Visual 
Installation Guide Step-by-step" instructions although i am on Debian. 
But nowadays there are instructions for Linux based systems as well:

http://arianne.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Stendhal

Again: If you have some problems, we need a in detail description of the 
problem to be able to help you.

Hendrik

klaus wrote:
> hi all
> 
> I am a austrian student and for our project we search for a online 
> multiplayer framework.
> We have found the arianne / marauroa  open source mulitplayer framework.
> 
> Now we want use this, (in the future we want also produce games for this)
> 
> The problem is to install marauroa or compile it.
> I have downloaded the verison 2.1
> I also read the wiki for the installing, but it does not work.
> 
> At first i have problems to build it wit ant.
> Is there also compiled version available?
> 
> Can somebody tell me how i can install the marauora framework with 
> stendhal or jmpacman under linux debian.
> 
> 
> best regards
> klaus
> 
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[Arianne-general] problems to install marauroa

[klaus <k....@gm...>]

hi all

I am a austrian student and for our project we search for a online 
multiplayer framework.
We have found the arianne / marauroa  open source mulitplayer framework.

Now we want use this, (in the future we want also produce games for this)

The problem is to install marauroa or compile it.
I have downloaded the verison 2.1
I also read the wiki for the installing, but it does not work.

At first i have problems to build it wit ant.
Is there also compiled version available?

Can somebody tell me how i can install the marauora framework with 
stendhal or jmpacman under linux debian.


best regards
klaus

[Arianne-general] OT: Invitation to participate in research project

[Ben A. <ben...@st...>]

Hello there

I would greatly appreciate a small amount of your time to assist with
my doctoral research at The University of Newcastle. The research
concerns open source licensing and we're seeking developers working on
Java projects. The research is supervised, ethics-approved, anonymous
and results will be freely available. Participation will also provide a
custom licensing report for your project. To learn more, please visit:

   http://licensing-research.newcastle.edu.au

Thanks for reading this email, and I hope you'll consider participating.

Best regards
Ben Alex

(My apologies for being off-topic; this list will not be emailed again)

[Arianne-general] Stendhal 0.60: A Marriage of Beauty and Chaos

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

Hi all,

Semos mines have been excavated deeper, producing new rocks and stones which 
were used to rebuild many tired looking buildings. All the citizens think it 
looks much better and even redecorated indoors as a result. However, digging 
the mines has opened up new passages and caverns ... they are no longer just 
the home of cute and cuddly kobolds, as here dwell the Chaos warriors! Also 
swarming the mines is a whole outpost of the Mithrilborough army, not to 
mention the mountain dwarves and a much, much, much greater beast. The 
mountain dwarves are famed blacksmiths - so all the creatures and monsters 
in Fauimoni traded in the things they fight with - clubs, armor and shields 
- for better versions. You may find that a monster drops something better 
than you expected - but he will not want to drop it often.

The bridge to Fado is open! Discover the delights of the city known across 
the land as the home of celebrations - of good food and marriage. Find a 
pretty maiden with a quest for you, and learn about karma from a wizardess. 
Over in Nalwor, it is less peaceful. The dark elves are still making 
trouble, and the mayor needs your help. Do what he asks and a special 
protective prize will be yours. You can fear less from death - but remember, 
there are now many more who wish to take life from you.

[Download]
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/arianne/stendhal-FULL-0.60.zip?use_mirror=dfn&filesize=11266286

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[Arianne-general] Developers meeting at 2007/04/21 at 16:00 GMT

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

Hi all,

Hendrik proposed a meeting this Saturday in order to talk about the next set 
of subjects:
- Integration of Stendhal with Marauroa 2.0 ( challenges )
- Creation of RP in small steps.
- Releases before having RP working.
- Numering of releases.
- Quality review process

And I would like to add too:
- Monsters on maps
- Maps
- World size
- Items
- Community creations.

If you have any subject you consider important just write a line here.

I would love you all assits on Saturday, 16:00 GMT at irc.freenode.net 
#arianne

Best regards,
Miguel

PS: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Be sure to join at the correct time :)

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Re: [Arianne-general] New RP Proposal

[Rod <Rod@Rods.id.au>]

Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin wrote:

>>    you mean, degrading DEF the longer a battle continues? I would agree
>>to this, but DEF is propertionally linked to DEX & DEX is linked to STR
>>& INT
>>    
>>
>
>No, I mean the more objects attack you the lower your def should be.
>
    Ahh yes I see, the more enemies your faced with, your DEF should be 
possibly proportionally de-graded with the count of enemies 1 tile away 
from you, and much less for the range attacking monsters, as their 
weapons are going to have a hard enough time hitting their target :P

    About range attacking monsters, if you are out in the fields and 
come acros some archers, their hit skill should be quite good, as they 
are generally hunters, those guarding the cities should be much better, 
those that you find in a "training ground" should be accurate from 
novice to Grand Master ;o) but more novices than masters, and the 
novices block the way of the player getting directly to that master.

    A thought on the AI of monsters.

    Rats are used for "road blocking" if you stop to fight, they will 
know "approximately" what direction you came from, and what direction 
you "may" venture off in, then they move to block your travel access 
where the stronger monsters will attack from the rear, and the archers 
(or Range attacking) from where they do now.

    Oh, and a BIG congratulations on who fixed the archers AI in the 
last few releases, I played a few days ago, and the archers will 
"back-off" if you try to get close, that was Fantastic, cause in a way, 
you had to chase them to get them.

    Maybe what could be implemented is a fenced area, that if you tried 
to gain access down the path between 2 fences, the Archers on either 
side will attack, but if you don't have arrown, then, you have nothing 
but your INT and DEF/DEX to protect yourself ;o)

    Now that Archers kind of works, (well, I cannot think of anything to 
improve it) you can take the next step of the following..

    Arrows (working)
    Water balloons (festive time of the year)
    Rocks (those slings and rock that you whiz around your head and let go)
    Sling-shots
    Trebochets (mass launching catapaults )

    Thats all for now ;o)

Re: [Arianne-general] New RP Proposal

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

>     Once upon a time, long-long ago in a world far-far away...... oops
>wrong story...
>
>     Not so long-long ago, there was talk in this listserve about not
>just game play in the 2-D world as we play now, but in the 3-D Realm
>concurrently, is this still in the pipeline, or has it slipped down the
>wrong drain pipe?

It is *abandoned*.
We lack of the resources ( read nice 3D artist ) and the code ( read nice 3D 
engine ) to do it.
I will port Stendhal to work over Open GL so it show nice effects but I 
won't go 3D with it.

>     Hey, I like this, a bit better in some cases, but who woud want to
>start "life" knowing that they will die sooner?

I have read something from the old arianne for this.
Perhaps when you die you can reincarnate in something new while getting some 
of the stuff of your old being.
Definitively it won't be like die because of a monster.

> >>     Determine if defender is hit
> >>
> >>     Can Weapon age be factored into the equations too? so weapons need
> >> to be "cared" for. and damage to the weapon can also result?
> >>
> >
> > I though about it too.
> > Perhaps we should ask players about this... I am sure they will hate to 
>have
> > their firesword broken.
> >
>     But, the thought of the PlayerDB is being thought of at this time
>too? then adding in Weapon damage into it will make the game play more
>challenging.
>
>     Also think of it this way, a player gathers 4 FireSwords, in a fit
>of generosity, (s)he gives 1 to a lvl1 player, that same player can go a
>long way and level much easier with such a powerful weapon.
>
>     I have maybe 3-4 FS's myself, 1 with me in my weapon of choice, and
>the rest in my bank locker :P
>
>     If we go and ask players about Sword damage, they may say NO, if you
>tell them that the player DB is being reset, and the game world begins
>again, then you may loose players..
>
>     No matter what choices are made, some will like, some not like,
>unfortunatly, you'll play against the majority, if your actions will
>benifit players, then players will vote to have it, if your actions
>benifit the game and make it difficult for playres, then they will vote
>NO, I'm for the game, what makes the game more difficult and therefore
>more challenging reaps a better reward in the end of time ;o)

Ok, It will be considered :)

>     you mean, degrading DEF the longer a battle continues? I would agree
>to this, but DEF is propertionally linked to DEX & DEX is linked to STR
>& INT

No, I mean the more objects attack you the lower your def should be.


>     With low INT, you can have all the strength in the world, but you
>don't know how to use it.
>     With low STR and High DEX & Int, you'll not get hit, but you cannot
>also defend
>     With low DEX and high INT & STR you know what to do, but can only
>attack 1 enemy at a time, you cannot move fast enough to get the rest
>
>     I'm not sure why you have DEX & AGI, to me, they are almost the same 
>??

Yes, danter suggested to add it to avoid having such strong attribute like 
DEX.
If you have a good DEX you can do all good and that's not a good thing for 
the game.

Regards,
Miguel

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Re: [Arianne-general] New RP Proposal

[Rod <Rod@Rods.id.au>]

Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin wrote:
>>     Karma
>>
>>     How about if it runs a +/- scale, you begin your life 0 (neutral)
>> then as you live, you  go +ve or -ve  a level of 0, your neutral, -ve
>> more evil, +ve more goodness?
>>     
>
> Right, it will work on that way.
>   
    Woo-Hoo Great minds DO think alike :P

>>     Race..
>>
>>     Would it be possible to be the same as what ever monster can be?
>>     
>
> It will eventually be like that... but it needs a huge amount of GFX 
> resources.
>   
    Once upon a time, long-long ago in a world far-far away...... oops 
wrong story...
   
    Not so long-long ago, there was talk in this listserve about not 
just game play in the 2-D world as we play now, but in the 3-D Realm 
concurrently, is this still in the pipeline, or has it slipped down the 
wrong drain pipe?
>>     Age,
>>
>>     Is this beginning age, so your always a child, Ancient, middle?  or
>> Server Age, where, you begin your life as in like normal life, 0 and
>> endure age from that point in time?
>>     
>
> My idea is that you choose an age.
> The younger the less points but the more potential to play your character.
> The older the more points to spend but the less possible to improve the 
> character.
> And it will eventually die.
>
> Anyway Age is not prone to feature in near releases.
>   
    Hey, I like this, a bit better in some cases, but who woud want to 
start "life" knowing that they will die sooner?
>>     Determine if defender is hit
>>
>>     Can Weapon age be factored into the equations too? so weapons need
>> to be "cared" for. and damage to the weapon can also result?
>>     
>
> I though about it too.
> Perhaps we should ask players about this... I am sure they will hate to have 
> their firesword broken.
>   
    But, the thought of the PlayerDB is being thought of at this time 
too? then adding in Weapon damage into it will make the game play more 
challenging.

    Also think of it this way, a player gathers 4 FireSwords, in a fit 
of generosity, (s)he gives 1 to a lvl1 player, that same player can go a 
long way and level much easier with such a powerful weapon.

    I have maybe 3-4 FS's myself, 1 with me in my weapon of choice, and 
the rest in my bank locker :P

    If we go and ask players about Sword damage, they may say NO, if you 
tell them that the player DB is being reset, and the game world begins 
again, then you may loose players..

    No matter what choices are made, some will like, some not like, 
unfortunatly, you'll play against the majority, if your actions will 
benifit players, then players will vote to have it, if your actions 
benifit the game and make it difficult for playres, then they will vote 
NO, I'm for the game, what makes the game more difficult and therefore 
more challenging reaps a better reward in the end of time ;o)

>>     Roll. (Attack) (Adjacient cell attack)
>> Attacker(DEX).Weapon(health).Attacker(weapon(skill)).Attacker(STR) vs.
>> Defender(DEX).Armour(health).Defender(Shield(skill)).Defender(STR)
>>
>>     If single Attacker, it is as above
>>
>>     If multiple attackers, Each Attacker is as above, but Defender must
>> be divided down against the number of attackers
>>
>>     Defender(DEX) is divided among the attackers evenly, incorporating
>> Defender(INT) will allow the defender to train a greater percentage of
>> Armour against the stronger Attackers while being able to attack the
>> weaker Attackers.
>>
>>     For a defender to be able to attack multiple attackers, you need
>> training in fighting skill, wapons skills/arts, and defensive training
>> too, (this is coming from my Karate training where I'm a Black Belt)
>>     
>
>
> Totally agree.
> It is something i wanted to add to allow better team play...
> But perhaps DEF should be lowered proportionally the the ATK of the 
> characters that are fighting.
>   
    you mean, degrading DEF the longer a battle continues? I would agree 
to this, but DEF is propertionally linked to DEX & DEX is linked to STR 
& INT

    With low INT, you can have all the strength in the world, but you 
don't know how to use it.
    With low STR and High DEX & Int, you'll not get hit, but you cannot 
also defend
    With low DEX and high INT & STR you know what to do, but can only 
attack 1 enemy at a time, you cannot move fast enough to get the rest
   
    I'm not sure why you have DEX & AGI, to me, they are almost the same ??
>>     If the attack is blocked..
>>
>>     Attacker(STR%).Attacker(weapon(skill%)) against
>> Shield(75%)/Armour(20%)/Weapon(5%) {SAW} The percentages for neutral
>> Defender, you must train in each of the skills to keep the balance, or
>> increase the skill in shielding so your other defenses don't de-rate
>>
>>     de-rating of Items
>>
>>     I feel this is needed, If a Sword hits a wooden club, the club
>> should sustain damage by a mathematical factor of Attacker INT & DEX and
>> Defenders INT & DEX, sustaining damage is what I'm terming as a
>> "de-rating" value on a item, all items in pristene condition begin life
>> at 100%
>>
>>     A sword will not de-rate much against a wooden club, but if the
>> defender is carrying a stone shield, then the sword will not be as
>> effective.
>>
>>     If the attacker is wielding Thors Hammer, then the wooden club may
>> not de-rate very much, but the stone shield will.
>>     
>
> I think that item destruction won't be very welcome :)
> Why not start a thread at Sourceforge so we listen to opinion from players 
> too? It would be good IMHO.
>
> Regards,
> Miguel
>   

    Ok, I'm just on SF now trying to find out how to do this :P

    Then I'll argue my case for it ;o)  along with some more proposals 
in the same area ;o)

Re: [Arianne-general] New RP Proposal

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

>     Not sure where additions/thoughts should be inserted, so I'm posting
>here ;o)


It is ok, wiki is also ok.

>
>     Karma
>
>     How about if it runs a +/- scale, you begin your life 0 (neutral)
>then as you live, you  go +ve or -ve  a level of 0, your neutral, -ve
>more evil, +ve more goodness?

Right, it will work on that way.

>
>     Race..
>
>     Would it be possible to be the same as what ever monster can be?

It will eventually be like that... but it needs a huge amount of GFX 
resources.

>
>     Age,
>
>     Is this beginning age, so your always a child, Ancient, middle?  or
>Server Age, where, you begin your life as in like normal life, 0 and
>endure age from that point in time?

My idea is that you choose an age.
The younger the less points but the more potential to play your character.
The older the more points to spend but the less possible to improve the 
character.
And it will eventually die.

Anyway Age is not prone to feature in near releases.

>
>     Determine if defender is hit
>
>     Can Weapon age be factored into the equations too? so weapons need
>to be "cared" for. and damage to the weapon can also result?

I though about it too.
Perhaps we should ask players about this... I am sure they will hate to have 
their firesword broken.

>     Roll. (Attack) (Adjacient cell attack)
>Attacker(DEX).Weapon(health).Attacker(weapon(skill)).Attacker(STR) vs.
>Defender(DEX).Armour(health).Defender(Shield(skill)).Defender(STR)
>
>     If single Attacker, it is as above
>
>     If multiple attackers, Each Attacker is as above, but Defender must
>be divided down against the number of attackers
>
>     Defender(DEX) is divided among the attackers evenly, incorporating
>Defender(INT) will allow the defender to train a greater percentage of
>Armour against the stronger Attackers while being able to attack the
>weaker Attackers.
>
>     For a defender to be able to attack multiple attackers, you need
>training in fighting skill, wapons skills/arts, and defensive training
>too, (this is coming from my Karate training where I'm a Black Belt)


Totally agree.
It is something i wanted to add to allow better team play...
But perhaps DEF should be lowered proportionally the the ATK of the 
characters that are fighting.

>     If the attack is blocked..
>
>     Attacker(STR%).Attacker(weapon(skill%)) against
>Shield(75%)/Armour(20%)/Weapon(5%) {SAW} The percentages for neutral
>Defender, you must train in each of the skills to keep the balance, or
>increase the skill in shielding so your other defenses don't de-rate
>
>     de-rating of Items
>
>     I feel this is needed, If a Sword hits a wooden club, the club
>should sustain damage by a mathematical factor of Attacker INT & DEX and
>Defenders INT & DEX, sustaining damage is what I'm terming as a
>"de-rating" value on a item, all items in pristene condition begin life
>at 100%
>
>     A sword will not de-rate much against a wooden club, but if the
>defender is carrying a stone shield, then the sword will not be as
>effective.
>
>     If the attacker is wielding Thors Hammer, then the wooden club may
>not de-rate very much, but the stone shield will.

I think that item destruction won't be very welcome :)
Why not start a thread at Sourceforge so we listen to opinion from players 
too? It would be good IMHO.

Regards,
Miguel

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Re: [Arianne-general] New RP Proposal

[Rod <Rod@Rods.id.au>]

Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I am writting the proposal for a new RP system that will replace the one 
>that we have now at Stendhal.
>
>http://arianne.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=StendhalRPProposal
>
>If you want to contribute and build a great system between we all that would 
>be really cool.
>
>Regards,
>Miguel
>  
>

    Not sure where additions/thoughts should be inserted, so I'm posting 
here ;o)


    Karma

    How about if it runs a +/- scale, you begin your life 0 (neutral) 
then as you live, you  go +ve or -ve  a level of 0, your neutral, -ve 
more evil, +ve more goodness?


    Race..

    Would it be possible to be the same as what ever monster can be?


    Age,

    Is this beginning age, so your always a child, Ancient, middle?  or 
Server Age, where, you begin your life as in like normal life, 0 and 
endure age from that point in time?

 


    Determine if defender is hit

    Can Weapon age be factored into the equations too? so weapons need 
to be "cared" for. and damage to the weapon can also result?

    Roll. (Attack) (Adjacient cell attack)
Attacker(DEX).Weapon(health).Attacker(weapon(skill)).Attacker(STR) vs. 
Defender(DEX).Armour(health).Defender(Shield(skill)).Defender(STR)

    If single Attacker, it is as above

    If multiple attackers, Each Attacker is as above, but Defender must 
be divided down against the number of attackers

    Defender(DEX) is divided among the attackers evenly, incorporating 
Defender(INT) will allow the defender to train a greater percentage of 
Armour against the stronger Attackers while being able to attack the 
weaker Attackers.

    For a defender to be able to attack multiple attackers, you need 
training in fighting skill, wapons skills/arts, and defensive training 
too, (this is coming from my Karate training where I'm a Black Belt)


    If the attack is blocked..

    Attacker(STR%).Attacker(weapon(skill%)) against 
Shield(75%)/Armour(20%)/Weapon(5%) {SAW} The percentages for neutral 
Defender, you must train in each of the skills to keep the balance, or 
increase the skill in shielding so your other defenses don't de-rate

    de-rating of Items

    I feel this is needed, If a Sword hits a wooden club, the club 
should sustain damage by a mathematical factor of Attacker INT & DEX and 
Defenders INT & DEX, sustaining damage is what I'm terming as a 
"de-rating" value on a item, all items in pristene condition begin life 
at 100%

    A sword will not de-rate much against a wooden club, but if the 
defender is carrying a stone shield, then the sword will not be as 
effective.

    If the attacker is wielding Thors Hammer, then the wooden club may 
not de-rate very much, but the stone shield will.
   
The upon Attack...

    Roll
Defender(Int). Def(DEX). def(Armour(skill))

    If found that a hit was made, then the Attackers formula comes into 
how much damage the Defender sustained

    If found to be a miss, calculate if the above SAW which sustained 
the "miss" or "hit"...  a high "hit" score would be Attacker 
proficiency, and vise versa.

    If SAW sustained a "hit", which one was "hit" (Attacker blocked 
with  Shield, Armour, Weapon) and de-rate tat item with a formula 
against the roll value, and the Attacker(weapon(health%))

    A Firesword with say 2% health is still 100% better than a steel 
sword? I would say it would be closer to being equivalent to a wooden sword.


    So, in my thoughts, health, is not just the health of the player, 
but the health of his items too.

    Items can be repaired, but they never get it 100% right, say repairs 
can be in the range of 72-90%, and the next time its repaired, it gets 
the same rating, so 2x90% the 2nd repair, its only ~80% or therabouts...

    I'm thinking Integer Mathematics, FP maths gets tricky, also more 
bytes are needed for storage or how many decimal places?

    Ok, thats my 2cents :P

[Arianne-general] New RP Proposal

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

Hi all,

I am writting the proposal for a new RP system that will replace the one 
that we have now at Stendhal.

http://arianne.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=StendhalRPProposal

If you want to contribute and build a great system between we all that would 
be really cool.

Regards,
Miguel

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[Arianne-general] Stendhal 0.60: RP Request for proposals

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

Hi all,

As we are getting near Stendhal 0.60 and Marauroa 2.0, we need to think 
about the new RP that should appear there.

I would love to listen to ideas about the RP, and help to extend them on 
Wiki, which danter began sometime ago.
http://arianne.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=StendhalRefactoring#RP_System

Also this change on the RP makes another problem to appear: top players :)
IMHO we should reset database to make everything interesting again, as we 
have many top players right now that can kill a black dragon on their own.

I would love to listen to ideas for both problems.

Regards,
Miguel

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[Arianne-general] happy new year!

[Steve I. <ste...@gm...>]

happy new year all!

steve i.

Re: [Arianne-general] Stendhal Music

[Miguel A. B. L. <mig...@ho...>]

I follow your question to our mailing list where you may meet the creator.

Regards,
Miguel

>From: "General Mecanor Icarus xTarget" <gen...@gm...>
>To: ari...@us...
>Subject: Stendhal Music
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:03:47 +0000
>
>Dear Sir/Madam
>
>    I am writing to enquire about music in stendhal. In the recent CVS
>checkouts (anonymous) I found an ogg music file,
>stendhal/data/music/Demiurgo_ANewHomeland.ogg To my knowledge it is not 
>used
>by the game (seperatly downloaded binary release). I am writing to enquire
>will this be used in future releases. I would also like to know the artist
>of this piece, as google searches about it return documents on US law (the
>word "homeland" being responsible).
>
>Yours Sincerly
>Gen...@gm...

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Re: [Arianne-general] I need help.

[Oslsachem <os...@ya...>]

https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3949091
By: nhnb

Please try 
http://home.arcor.de/nhb/stendhal/stendhal/stendhal-server-0.54.zip

This is the version running on stenhal.game-host.org


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Re: [Arianne-general] Stendhal 0.54 and Marauroa 1.34 released.

[Rod <Rod@Rods.id.au>]

    Sydney???

    Melbourne is better :D

Steve I. wrote:

> We wrote that ages ago didnt we? :)
> anyway, just wanted to say to all that I will be away for 6 weeks from
> tomo. I know i havent been around much anyway lately, sorry about
> that. but anyway see you all in 6 weeks (hopefully will get properly
> involved again then as I will be a normal student again and so be
> doing nothing ;-) !
>
> here is my travel log
> http://www.ballofdirt.com/journeys/14507.html
>
> regards
> steve i.
>
> On 10/3/06, * Rod* <Ro...@ro... <mailto:Ro...@ro...>> wrote:
>
>     Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin wrote:
>
>     >Stendhal
>     >--------
>     >
>     >Are you looking for adventure? Want to fight for riches?
>     >Develop yourself and your social standing? Meet new people?
>     >Do you want to be part of a brave new world?
>     >
>     >Stendhal is a full fledged multiplayer online adventures game
>     (MMORPG)
>     >developed using the Arianne game development system.
>     >
>     >Stendhal features a new, rich and expanding world in which you
>     can explore
>     >towns, buildings, plains, caves and dungeons.
>     >You will meet NPCs and acquire tasks and quests for valuable
>     experience and
>     >cold hard cash.
>     >
>     >Your character will develop and grow and with each new level up
>     become
>     >stronger and better. With the money you acquire you can buy new
>     items and
>     >improve your
>     >armour and weapons. And for the blood thirsty of your; satisfy
>     your killing
>     >desires by roaming the world in search of evil monsters!
>     >
>     >Stendhal is totally platform independent, written using Java 1.5
>     and the
>     >Java2D environment.
>     >
>     >So what are you waiting for?! A whole new world awaits...
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >Changelog
>     >---------
>     >
>     >- added dice gambling in Semos Tavern with golden trousers as the
>     jackpot
>     >- fixed lag because of broken key handling on X11 (Linux)
>     >- display other players on minimap
>     >- made jail accessible to normal players
>     >- added additional clothes and hair styles for females
>     >- changed our default server to stendhal.game-host.org
>     <http://stendhal.game-host.org>
>     >- converted admin / game master commands from groovy to
>     reloadable java
>     >classes
>     >
>     >Download
>     >--------
>     >http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/arianne/stendhal-FULL-0.54.zip?download
>     <http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/arianne/stendhal-FULL-0.54.zip?download>
>     >
>     >
>         Excellent, this is the way to Introduce Stendhal.
>
>         BIG CONGRATULATIONS to the Author :D
>
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[Arianne-general] I need help.

[Jack M. <ja...@bk...>]

Hello.

May i stand server (for\with game stendhal) in my Lan web-site (to make other players (from LAN) to connect to server and play game) ?

Please help me do that.

I download all that (and USE that!):
marauroa-1.34.zip, stendhal-server-0.54.zip, stendhal-FULL-0.54.zip.
(+ simple-3.1.3.tar.gz + stendhal_mapeditor-1.21.zip)

I do all that write in manual at:
http://arianne.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=VisualGuideInstallingStendhal

But when i start marauroad.bat server not start in server.log i see:

0    [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalPlayerDatabase  - Starting Stendhal JDBC Database
641  [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n_w4
1703 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n2_w2
2344 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n2_w
2563 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n2
2657 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: int_0_semos_mountain_n2_house_66
2672 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: int_0_semos_mountain_n2_house_67
2688 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: int_0_semos_mountain_n2_house_68
2703 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n2_e
2907 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n2_e2
3000 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_ados_mountain_n2_w2
3282 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n_w3
3485 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n_w2
3578 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_plains_n
3719 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_plains_ne
4188 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_semos_mountain_n_e2
4282 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_ados_mountain_n_w2
4375 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: 0_ados_mountain_nw
4594 [marauroad] INFO  games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld  - Loading area: int_ados_magician_house
4594 [marauroad] ERROR games.stendhal.server.ZoneXMLLoader  - java.util.zip.ZipException: incorrect data check
4610 [marauroad] WARN  marauroa.server.game.RPServerManager  - ABORT: Unable to create RPZone, RPRuleProcessor or RPAIManager instances
java.util.zip.ZipException: incorrect data check
	at games.stendhal.server.ZoneXMLLoader.load(ZoneXMLLoader.java:225)
	at games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld.addArea(StendhalRPWorld.java:671)
	at games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld.addArea(StendhalRPWorld.java:653)
	at games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld.onInit(StendhalRPWorld.java:327)
	at marauroa.server.game.RPServerManager.<init>(RPServerManager.java:102)
	at marauroa.server.marauroad.init(marauroad.java:188)
	at marauroa.server.marauroad.run(marauroad.java:135)
4641 [marauroad] FATAL marauroa.server.marauroad  - Marauroa can't create RPServerManager.
Reasons:
- You haven't specified a valid configuration file
- You haven't correctly filled the values related to game configuration. Use generateini application to create a valid configuration file.
- There may be an error in the Game startup method.

java.util.zip.ZipException: incorrect data check
	at games.stendhal.server.ZoneXMLLoader.load(ZoneXMLLoader.java:225)
	at games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld.addArea(StendhalRPWorld.java:671)
	at games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld.addArea(StendhalRPWorld.java:653)
	at games.stendhal.server.StendhalRPWorld.onInit(StendhalRPWorld.java:327)
	at marauroa.server.game.RPServerManager.<init>(RPServerManager.java:102)
	at marauroa.server.marauroad.init(marauroad.java:188)
	at marauroa.server.marauroad.run(marauroad.java:135)

********
4594 4610 4641 - that is problem? what i need do to repair it? Server don't start? The black window is close in the end!
(When i try to connect to server game (client - stendhal-0.54.jar), i greate acc. then i try to login (to localhost) and see that error "stendhal can't connect to server. Did you misspell the server name?')

My web site conf: PHP 5.1.6, MySQL 5.0.24a, Apache 2.0.59 ...

I faith that you help me.
With respect.

Re: [Arianne-general] Stendhal 0.54 and Marauroa 1.34 released.

[Steve I. <ste...@gm...>]

We wrote that ages ago didnt we? :)
anyway, just wanted to say to all that I will be away for 6 weeks from tomo.
I know i havent been around much anyway lately, sorry about that. but anyway
see you all in 6 weeks (hopefully will get properly involved again then as I
will be a normal student again and so be doing nothing ;-) !

here is my travel log
http://www.ballofdirt.com/journeys/14507.html

regards
steve i.

On 10/3/06, Rod <Ro...@ro...> wrote:
>
> Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin wrote:
>
> >Stendhal
> >--------
> >
> >Are you looking for adventure? Want to fight for riches?
> >Develop yourself and your social standing? Meet new people?
> >Do you want to be part of a brave new world?
> >
> >Stendhal is a full fledged multiplayer online adventures game (MMORPG)
> >developed using the Arianne game development system.
> >
> >Stendhal features a new, rich and expanding world in which you can
> explore
> >towns, buildings, plains, caves and dungeons.
> >You will meet NPCs and acquire tasks and quests for valuable experience
> and
> >cold hard cash.
> >
> >Your character will develop and grow and with each new level up become
> >stronger and better. With the money you acquire you can buy new items and
> >improve your
> >armour and weapons. And for the blood thirsty of your; satisfy your
> killing
> >desires by roaming the world in search of evil monsters!
> >
> >Stendhal is totally platform independent, written using Java 1.5 and the
> >Java2D environment.
> >
> >So what are you waiting for?! A whole new world awaits...
> >
> >
> >
> >Changelog
> >---------
> >
> >- added dice gambling in Semos Tavern with golden trousers as the jackpot
> >- fixed lag because of broken key handling on X11 (Linux)
> >- display other players on minimap
> >- made jail accessible to normal players
> >- added additional clothes and hair styles for females
> >- changed our default server to stendhal.game-host.org
> >- converted admin / game master commands from groovy to reloadable java
> >classes
> >
> >Download
> >--------
> >
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/arianne/stendhal-FULL-0.54.zip?download
> >
> >
>     Excellent, this is the way to Introduce Stendhal.
>
>     BIG CONGRATULATIONS to the Author :D
>
>
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