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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-17 19:31:46
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7449477 By: shawnlane You might need to think who your doing this for. Hibernate will ease development and make it more attractive to developers and easier to port to other databases. I think if your thinking about organisations however, hibernate is irrelevant, organisations are more likely to be diven by standards and will therefore be looking for a product that supports the JCR standard and the upcoming CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services). In other words the implementation of persistence is irrelevant. In other words larger organisations witll be looking for products / open source options that meet these standards. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-17 16:58:56
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7449918 By: lbcfrancois I guess the question would then be, would it mkae the roadmap easier to move from RedHat persistence to Hibernate and then from Hibernate to JCR and maybe CMIS when it gets finalised. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-17 14:50:46
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7449655 By: jensp1108 Hello to all, the paper describing the necessary modifications for using the JPA in CCM/Aplaws is now available: http://ccm.barkhof.uni-bremen.de/ccm/cms-service/stream/asset/?asset_id=74010 In the paper I assume that we want to use the standardised Java Persistence API and not Hibernate directly. I agree with Shawn that our final goal should be to migrate to the JCR. Besides the JCR there are also other parts of CCM which need some work. I'm working on a paper which describes the existing options that we have. I hope to finish this paper by the end of June. As Peter stated above, for migrating to JCR will cause some extensive modifications in the code and needs a big amount a conceptional work. The JCR is not an relational database, it has a model which shares some characteristics with hierarchical databases. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-17 11:12:21
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7449316 By: pboy Francois, I suppose, Jens will upload the paper today. I just accepted him as developer on sourceforge so he can access the forum. Jens estimates, a developer needs 3 - 6 months for the move. The most complex and time consuming task is to clean up the code and rework the the class hierarchy. There is a lot of unfinished work in core, e.g. old vs. new versioning, site node, search framework, and more. Old design patterns and implementations coexist with previous ones and make the class hierarchy (and object relational mapping) inconsistent and ambiguous. The time a developer needs for a rework depends largely upon his familiarity with the code in core (and partly cms). I agree, a migration to Hibernate is a valid alternative to a migration to JCR. It is by far less work, we retain flexibility, and don't have to undertake the huge task to reconstruct the internal logic of rather the complete code in core. And - as a rough estimatation - more of half of the work (perhaps2/3) we have to do anyway, independently wether we migrate to Hibernate or to JCR. So, it may be a wise decision, to migrate to Hibernate in a first step. We achive a wider database support, easier code maintenance, and fix several database problems. We can invest the saved workload into a greater user friendlyness and other user related improvements. A year later we may investigate a switch to JCR. Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-17 10:02:34
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7449221 By: lbcfrancois I agree with you Peter on that Hibernate will not be part of 1.0.5 as it will break API Peter, do you know when Jens paper will be ready? We are currently also looking at getting an estimate together for the work involved in switching to Hibernate. I know we were talking about moving to JCR, but during our investigation to fix the 8.3 PostgreSQL bug, hibernate cropped up in the discussion and I think is worth investigating. It would be good to have people opinion around Hibernate vs. JCR (i.e Jackrabbit) so we can see which one would benefit Aplaws the most going forward. Francois ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-17 07:49:03
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7448948 By: pboy Hi, I suppose the patch will not resolve the problem in hand. as to the current problem evaluation Postgresql version 8.3 and beyond has stopped to auto convert string variables into the appropriate data type of a field. APLAWS persistence relies on that feature. If we decide to switch to Hibernate we would have to do a lot of code modifications which will break the API. The main goal of release 1.0.5 is to preserve the current API and runtime system. So Hibernate is not an option, indeed. Jens, member of our development team at Bremen, will present a paper which analyses the work we have to do in order to switch to Hibernate. It is a lot of work, so we have to decide wether we will migrate to Hibernate (and preserve the current object mapping) or switch to Java Content Repository (modify a lot of the internal logic). Therefore, the Postgresql problem should be resolved in Red Hat persistence. For a developer familiar with the code it shouldn't be an overwhelming task. Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 14:15:53
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7445285 By: lbcfrancois that's useful. However I do not know whether this patch would be supported within an enterprise level support agreement. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 13:59:12
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7445251 By: shawnlane This might help http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2008-05/msg00397.php ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 13:40:10
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7445208 By: lbcfrancois The issue is that it won't install. This was put together by Peter Boy - Thanks Peter for documenting this. A description of the issue is located at https://fedorahosted.org/aplaws/ticket/29. The issue can be reproduced as follows: - Install Postgresql 8.3 - Compile and Deploy current branch 1.0.5 - As soon as you execute ccm load-bundle you will receive the first error message concerning incompatible fields (revision 1760 has not been included in the branch 1.0.5 , so as to provide an unmodified system to fix the postgresql issue.) ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 13:34:56
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7445198 By: shawnlane NB just checked our database and it's 8.1.1... can you let me know what the problem is with the later version. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 13:26:18
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7445185 By: shawnlane >As you know we have an outstanding issue with PostgreSQL 8.3.x What issue do you have? If it is performance, then we had a performance issue but this was solved by changing a parameter on the JDBC URL to speak the correct protocol. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 13:24:09
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7445173 By: shawnlane Hey Francois that sounds interesting. I think we are trying to get a handle on the amount of resource / time spent developing content. So any metrics of that nature would be really useful. ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 10:08:22
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7444886 By: lbcfrancois What kind of reports are you after? We have developed some materialised view that can be used for content reporting (ownership, categories, URL ...). We are happy to share these if you think they might be of any use for you. Cheers, Francois ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-15 10:07:09
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7444884 By: lbcfrancois Hi all, As you know we have an outstanding issue with PostgreSQL 8.3.x. We are currently looking at all the available options and one of them would be to use Hibernate (https://www.hibernate.org/). Has anybody already looked into it and would have some paper (even in rough draft format) of the different item of work that would be required? Please don't hesitate to send us your feedback on the idea as should we go down this route 1.0.5 would be shipped most likely with no support for PostgreSQL beyond 8.2. Cheers, Francois ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-10 08:28:37
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7435711 By: shawnlane Any of you guys know if there are any management information type reports available for an aplaws, sort of thing that business users require rather than technical support staff? ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-03 14:43:36
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7424763 By: pboy Chandra, I fixed it in r1945. Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-03 11:38:11
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7424655 By: pboy Chandra, | When you assign navigation catgory to any content item during | content authoring. it does not assign anyhting in Selected categories | multiline selectbox.It gives java script error. I can reproduce the problem with the standard aplaws theme. I'll try to fix it within the next days, or did you already found a solution? Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-03 11:28:57
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7424638 By: pboy Terry thanks, yes (partly) I had a look on the Fedora pages. There used to be step by step instruction. Your instructions are for Windows, I need it for Linux (but it is easy to convert). Nevertheless, do you know if I can upload 2 ssh certificate files so I can commit from my desktop as well as my laptop? Or is their another way to do it? Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-03 11:24:14
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7424631 By: pboy Terry, many thanks for that! From a short look on the patch I conclude that the logik is in javascript? So we have some task to do to port it to the hostinit java code for the user installation & maintenance tool? Or we have to discard hostinit.java and re-implement it as an ant task? Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-06-03 11:09:27
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7424607 By: pboy Brett, | You must be refering to packages other than ccm-core or ccm-cms. | I do not use the other packages so don't know about how they | include other XML templates. Yes indeed, mostly those packages which used to install into their own web context as ccm-userpreferences, or ccm-ldn-themes as an example. They contain include statements like "../../../../ROOT/static/.......", because they directly use resources from modules installed into ROOT (and vice versa) - very strange design. I startet to check all the xml files and to remove all absolute adressing. I studied your hints about SimpleURIResolver - and I'm wondering a little bit about the design decisions behind it. I think XML templates, which render a xml information to html, are very private to the module which maintains that information. It should never be used by any other module directly, and even more so by another web application (if there is a need to access that information, an jee service or a content type as proxy site or xmlfeed should be used). So I would expect a real "Simple" way would be to resolve any xsl template as a resource relative to it's own context. Things are even worse with the parameter waf.web.server, which must contain the correct url including the port, otherwise c.ad.templating.XSLTemplate can not find the resource (fails at line 100). I suppose, an application user should not be forced to take the system administrators cnfiguration philosophy into account. Why not fetch it from the we applications context? Even more worse with c.ad.caching.CacheServlet. It reads the host's name and port from a persistent database table (we have no maintenance tool as to my knowledge). So every time the system administrator modifies e.g. the port, we either produce a bunch of log errors or we have to manually edit the database. Do you have a solution / idea for these latter two issue as well? I'm eager to study your patch. Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-05-29 17:07:32
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7416886 By: bprucha Peter, You must be refering to packages other than ccm-core or ccm-cms. I do not use the other packages so don't know about how they include other XML templates. In the XML templates for ccm-core and ccm-cms I had to replace the <a href="/somefile"> urls with <a href="{$context-prefix}/somefile">. For APLAWS applications that I developed myself that run outside of the APLAWS context I modified com.arsdigita.templating.SimpleURIResolver. This class is used by the TransformerFactory that the XSL Templates use to resolve the location of the XML template files. I used "/@ccm_context@" as a special string in the include which gets replaced by the APLWAS context in SimpleURIResolver. You can follow a similar method to resolve the other XML includes to suit your needs for the other apps, no need to edit the XML template files. I don't have time now but some time next week I should be able to get a patch file together which allows the core APLAWS to run under a context other than ROOT. Thanks, Brett ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-05-29 11:34:06
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7416341 By: terry_permeance I have implemented this change in r1943 using some code borrowed from Liferay (see tools-ng/webxml/lib/*.jar). >From now on... 1. Any module can have a web.xml fragment called <module>/web/WEB-INF/web.<module>.xml 2. During 'ant deploy', these fragments are merged into (over) the default web.xml specified in project.xml 3. Unless you need something non-standard, the default web.xml is now an empty web.xml file (called web.empty.xml) instead of web.xml-aplaws Notes: 1. I chose to name the fragments web.<module>.xml so that they open in Eclipse as an XML file and are validated 2. All web.xml fragments now comply with Servlet 2.4 specification (previously 2.3) since ecdc uses Tomcat 6 3. Merging seems to handle duplicate entries correctly, e.g. if you declare the same servlet twice, the second file merged in replaces the first one. (Thanks, Liferay!) Enjoy! I hope there are no problems. Terry ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-05-29 07:16:08
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7415851 By: terry_permeance 868 x versionId properties have been removed in r1940 (Still trying to work out multi-line search/replace with Eclipse) ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-05-29 07:02:18
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7415826 By: terry_permeance Is this what you mean? https://fedorahosted.org/aplaws/wiki/AplawsRepositorySetupInstructions ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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From: Aplaws D. L. <apl...@li...> - 2009-05-29 06:57:41
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Read and respond to this message at: https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7415819 By: pboy Hi all, there used to be a step by step instruction how to configure one's workstation for svn access to fedorahosted (generate a key, upload to a key server, upload to Fedora, import into ssh). May be I'm blind, but I can't find it anymore. Can anyone provide a link, please? I would like to enable my Fedora Laptop to have access to svn as well. I would like to use the same certification as on my destop. Does someone know how to do that? Peter ______________________________________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you elected to monitor this forum. To stop monitoring this forum, login to SourceForge.net and visit: https://sourceforge.net/forum/unmonitor.php?forum_id=368401 |
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