Re: [Apertium-stuff] Question about metaparadigms

[Aure S. <a.s...@lo...>]

Hi

Yes, it's something like that. Actually, I would like to simplificate 
the management of verbs which doesn't use the same paradigm in different 
varieties :

   <pardef n="parl/i__vblex">
     <e><p><l>i</l><r>ar<s n="vblex"/><s n="pri"/><s n="p1"/><s 
n="sg"/></r></p></e>
   </pardef>

<pardef n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex">
     <e alt="oci"><p><l>è</l><r>e</r></p><i><prm/></i><par 
n="parl/i__vblex"/></e>
     <e alt="oci@gascon"><p><l>è</l><r>e</r></p><i><prm/></i><par 
n="parl/i__vblex"/></e>
</pardef>

<pardef n="p/e[NS]ar__vblex">
     <e alt="oci"><i>e<prm/></i><par n="parl/i__vblex"/></e>
     <e alt="oci@gascon"><i>e<prm/></i><par n="parl/i__vblex"/></e>
</pardef>

   <pardef n="L-alt_G-pasalt">
     <e alt="oci"><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex" prm="prm"/></e>
     <e alt="oci@gascon"><par n="p/e[NS]ar__vblex" prm="prm"/></e>
   </pardef>

<e lm="acceptar"><i>acc</i><par n="L-alt_G-pasalt" prm="pt"/></e>

In oci, it would generate "accèpti" (according to cr/e[M]ar__vblex 
paradigm) and in oci@gascon it would generate "accepti" (according to 
p/e[NS]ar__vblex paradigm).

For now, I have to define 2 forms :
<e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex" 
prm="pt"/></e>
<e lm="acceptar" alt="oci@gascon"><i>acc</i><par n="p/e[NS]ar__vblex" 
prm="pt"/></e>

When we will have 5 varieties (and maybe 9 one day), it will be 
impossible...

Thanks


Le 02/04/2025 à 11:07, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer a écrit :

>> I call a metaparadigm with :
>> <e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="L-alt_G-pasalt" prm="pt"/></e>
>> Inside, I would like to call another metaparadigm and passing it the
>> "prm" argument :
>>    <pardef n="L-alt_G-pasalt">
>>      <e alt="oci"><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex" prm="prm"/></e>
>>    </pardef>
>> But it doesn't seem to work, I have an error :
>> Error (4685): Undefined paradigm 'cr/e[M]ar__vblex__prm'.
>>
>> Can I pass the prm parameter to another paradigm ?
> Do I understand you correctly that you would like metadix
>
>
>    <pardef n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex">
>      <e><p><l>cre<prm/>ar</l><r>cremar<s n="vblex"/></r></p></e>
>      <!-- I just made something up here -->
>    </pardef>
>    
>    <pardef n="L-alt_G-pasalt">
>      <e alt="oci"><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex" prm="prm"/></e>
>    </pardef>
>
> <e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="L-alt_G-pasalt" prm="pt"/></e>
>
> to be compiled/transformed to something equivalent to
>
>    <pardef n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex_pt">
>      <e><p><l>creptar</l><r>cremar<s n="vblex"/></r></p></e>
>    </pardef>
> <e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex_pt"/></e>
>
>
> ?
>
> That does sound like it would be useful.
>
>
> As you found out, prm="prm" won't work for that; I'm not sure but I
> don't think the current XSLT scripts support it, so we would have to
> expand the scripts to be able to pass on the prm parameter to
> sub-paradigms.
>
>
>
>
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Le 02/04/2025 à 11:07, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer a écrit :
>> I call a metaparadigm with :
>> <e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="L-alt_G-pasalt" prm="pt"/></e>
>> Inside, I would like to call another metaparadigm and passing it the
>> "prm" argument :
>>    <pardef n="L-alt_G-pasalt">
>>      <e alt="oci"><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex" prm="prm"/></e>
>>    </pardef>
>> But it doesn't seem to work, I have an error :
>> Error (4685): Undefined paradigm 'cr/e[M]ar__vblex__prm'.
>>
>> Can I pass the prm parameter to another paradigm ?
> Do I understand you correctly that you would like metadix
>
>
>    <pardef n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex">
>      <e><p><l>cre<prm/>ar</l><r>cremar<s n="vblex"/></r></p></e>
>      <!-- I just made something up here -->
>    </pardef>
>    
>    <pardef n="L-alt_G-pasalt">
>      <e alt="oci"><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex" prm="prm"/></e>
>    </pardef>
>
> <e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="L-alt_G-pasalt" prm="pt"/></e>
>
> to be compiled/transformed to something equivalent to
>
>    <pardef n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex_pt">
>      <e><p><l>creptar</l><r>cremar<s n="vblex"/></r></p></e>
>    </pardef>
> <e lm="acceptar" alt="oci"><i>acc</i><par n="cr/e[M]ar__vblex_pt"/></e>
>
>
> ?
>
> That does sound like it would be useful.
>
>
> As you found out, prm="prm" won't work for that; I'm not sure but I
> don't think the current XSLT scripts support it, so we would have to
> expand the scripts to be able to pass on the prm parameter to
> sub-paradigms.
>
>
>
>
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