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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Links Module - does it work yet?

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Hi Honza

Any update on AA2.6, especially I'm hoping for that Links module.

- Mitra


At 9:26 PM +1000 2/6/03, Mitra wrote:
>Yes - I can wait this long, I have other things to do on the site as well.
>
>Thanks
>
>- Mitra
>
>
>At 11:50 AM +0200 2/6/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>Hi Mitra,
>>
>>    I thought I catch release AA 2.6 during weekend, but I didn't. Is it
>>possible to you to wait for Friday, when AA 2.6 will be released
>>including database setup, small Links exmple and basic view setting
>>pages?
>>
>>    Honza
>>
>>On Po, 2003-06-02 at 02:31, Mitra wrote:
>>>  Hi Honza ... are links working yet?
>>>
>>>  - Mitra
>>>
>>>
>>>  At 5:48 PM +1000 28/5/03, Mitra wrote:
>>>  >Honza
>>>  >
>>>  >I'd like to start using this, and would appreciate your help,
>>>  >
>>>  >please let me know what I need to do to the database - or is
>>>  >sql_update.php3 working to do this yet?
>>>  >
>>>  >- Mitra
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >At 10:58 AM +0200 22/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>>  >>  > Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>>  >>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>It quite works, but:
>>>  >>
>>>  >>1) there are no documentation in english
>>>  >>2) The sql_update.php3 do not prepare database for links module
>>>  >>3) There is not good admin interface for changing dataoutput (somethi=
ng
>>>  >>like Slice Admin -> Design -> ...)
>>>  >>
>>>  >>The problem 2 (and maybe 3) will be solved in AA v2.6. So, if you hav=
e
>>>  >>time to play with links module and you plan to create big catalogue w=
ith
>>>  >>many categories in deep hierarchy, you could use Links - I will help =
you
>>>  >>to set up database. If you just want one page with links, it is bette=
r
>>>  >>to use standard slice.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>    Honza
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>On =E2t, 2003-05-22 at 10:41, Mitra wrote:
>>>  >>>  Honza
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>>  >>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  - Mitra
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  Norbert said ...
>>>  >>>  >What about to create different views for small(est) parts of the
>>  > >>>  >output (e.g. up-level category link, subcategory link and its
>>  > >>>  >selected subcategories, list of links in actual category)  and t=
hen
>>  > >>>  >combine them in similar way how it is done in site module? And w=
hy
>>>  >>>  >not to extend site module for that purpose?
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >And some more questions:
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >Would it be possible to make relations between categories and oth=
er
>>>  >>>  >modules (e.g. news articles, directory, ...)?
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >Would it be possible to search links in subcategories? (I mean no=
t
>>>  >>>  >whole catalogue, not actual category, but actual category and all=
 of
>>>  >>>  >its subcategories).
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >Would it be possible to reuse the code for links module and to ad=
d
>>>  >>>  >similar functionality (editors for specific categories) to other
>>>  >>>  >modules (e.g. news articles)?  Something like this might be reall=
y
>>>  >>>  >great... (right now we want to delegate some sections/categories =
of
>>>  >>>  >our site to different authors - we do want to allow them access o=
nly
>>>  >>>  >to their section, not to the whole site; but with possibility to
>>>  >>>  >share articles among sections and on homepage. We plan to do it b=
y
>>>  >>>  >restricting list of site wide sections/categories they could see =
on
>>>  >>>  >their edit form, but looking for more flexible solution).
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  At 10:05 AM +1100 29/3/03, Mitra wrote:
>>>  >>>  >For the output - I'm not sure your question, but I'm assuming its=
 to
>>>  >>>  >do with showing hierarchical cwould suggest something like
>>>  >>>  >specifying a template for beginning and each level, so for exampl=
e
>>>  >>>  >you could specify
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  ><b>_#HEADLINE</b><ul>     and     </ul>       for the first level
>>>  >>  > ><li>_#HEADLINE</li>    for the second .
>>>  >>  > >
>>>  >>  > >Does that make sense?
>>>  >>  > >
>>>  >>  > >Note that the {math...} function allows you to do stuff like
>>>  >>  > >multiple columns, I use it to get a photo album with 3 columns.
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >- Mitra
>>>  >>>  >
>>  > >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >At 1:56 PM +0100 28/3/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>>  >>>  >>Link module is still not complete, but I will try to make 
>>>it working in
>>>  >>>  >>AA v2.6.
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>What works:
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>- admin interface for links (adding categories, links, ...) - th=
ere
>>>  >>>  >>   will be some improvements on this, but basicaly it 
>>>works (we want to
>>>  >>>  >>   move ekolink.cz to the AA link module next week)
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>What is still missing:
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>- SQL commands to initate the links module in the database in
>>>  >>>  >>   sql_update.php3 script (not so hard to do - will be in v2.6)
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>- interface for modifying of output (something like 
>>>SliceAdmin -> Design
>>>  >>>  >>   - Fulltext, ...) - currently we display output from custom ph=
p
>>>  >>>  >>   scripts.  (Hard to do - I have no idea, how to do it 
>>>since we need
>>>  >>>  >>   some kind of cycles in templates, ...)
>>>  >>  > >>
>>>  >>>  >>- documentation (quite hard to do, because links module is 
>>>quite complex
>>>  >>>  >>   - mainly in terms of permissions to the links/categories
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>    Honza
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>On P=E1, 2003-03-28 at 09:22, Mitra wrote:
>>>  >>>  >>>  At 12:52 PM +0100 25/2/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>>  >>>  >>>  >Hi Norbert,
>>>  >>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >>>  >On So, 2003-02-22 at 01:09, Norbert Br=E1zda wrote:
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  Hi Honza,
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  From: "Honza Malik" <hon...@ec...>
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  > I posted some changes to CVS. The list of changes
>>>  >>>follows. Most of
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  > changes is related to new Links module, which is not
>>>  >>>  >>>complete, yet. At
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  > least, user management functions should work, now.
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  I am curious how the new links module differ from normal
>>>  >>>  >>>modules (e.g. what
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  are the new functions that are not provided by standard
>>>  >>>module (called
>>>  >>>  >>>  >>  "news" due to historical reasons)).
>>>  >>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >>>  >Links module is integration of our older - independent
>>>  >>>links aplication
>>>  >>>  >>>  >into AA. It uses another tables for storing links,
>>>  >>>categories, ... but
>>>  >>>  >>>  >it uses the same permission system and the interface. You
>>>  >>>will be able
>>>  >>>  >>  > >to manage pages like (http://ekolink.cz).
>>>  >>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  >>>  Is Links working yet
>>>  >>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  >>>  When I login as superadmin on earth.path.net/apc-aa+/admin
>>>  >>>  >>>(updated from CVS)
>>>  >>>  >>  > And go to AA
>>>  >>>  >>  > and Click on "Add" next to Links (there is nothing in 
>>>the drop-down)
>>>  >>>  >>  > then I get  "No permission to edit module"  from 
>>>links/modedit.php3
>>>  >>>  >>  >
>>>  >>>  >>  > - Mitra
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Stability problem follow-up

[Jeff H. <ja...@mi...>]

Thanks to Honza and Mitra for your help!  Also thanks to  Pep Turro for help
with the selection values for date field pull downs.  To recap I was having
a pretty hellish time with AA stability. The issues I was having were:

1. Session instability. Screens don't always display current values
 2. Views don't work. All that's displayed is "No item found"
 3. Static views work but display "Odd Rows" content twice
 4. When updating fields I often get "Error in Priority (it must be filled)"
 5. Hold status not working

And one thing I forgot to mention - If I had two includes (slice or view)
within one html page, the second one would just dump the php source code to
the screen. That was a nasty one... :)

And my environment was:

Redhat 9.0
Apache 2.0.46
PHP 4.3.1
Mysql 3.23.56
APC Action Apps 2.4.0 and the cvs version

The resolution to all this is sort of anti climatic - upgrading to PHP
Version 4.3.2 seems to have fixed the stability problems.  I just upgraded
the OS and software on my server in the last month so I'm running current
versions of everything. I didn't realize a new version of PHP had been
released until this weekend. Even so, I really didn't expect an upgrade from
4.3.1 to 4.3.2 to make much of a difference but it certainly did.  Honza,
you mentioned the caching problem was a known issue with the PHP and Apache
developers and the next version of PHP is supposed to have a fix. Apparently
it does. In fact there is a very long list of bug fixes in this release.
The only two issues that the PHP upgrade didn't fix is #2, the view problem
and #5, the hold status. The hold status is broke in the CVS but not the
official 2.4.0 release. I'm sure you guys are aware of that. The view issue
was a usage problem on my part. Maybe with a little more reading and
experimentation I would have got it working but with all the instability
problems I was having it was hard to differentiate between those and
possible usage problems. Anyway, thanks to Honza and Mitra's help I should
now be able to get this working correctly.  Also, I'm running the CVS
version now...

Sorry for posting to both mailing lists... At some point I accidentally
crossed over from the general to the coding list so I'll post this follow up
to both. Thanks again Honza and Mitra (and Pep Turro).

-jah

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Stability problem analysis - developer response requested

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

At 1:34 PM -0400 15/6/03, Jeff Haney wrote:
>In my determination to get a stable installation of AA, I have spent 
>a lot of time working with it this weekend. Having no success on my 
>production server, I set up a Redhat 7.3 system on a spare machine 
>and installed Apache, PHP and mysql from the rpm's. So the 
>environment is:
>
>    Redhat 7.3
>    Apache 1.3.23
>    PHP 4.1.2
>    mysql 3.23.49
>    APC Action Apps 2.4.0 (also tried the cms version)

I suggest you test on the CVS system, its close to being a new 
release anyway, and has a lot of bugs fixed.

>I used the Redhat supplied php.ini which already had the AA required 
>directives set (I did have to set file_uploads on):
>
>    allow_call_time_pass_reference = On
>    register_globals = On                 ; needed so that POST 
>parameters end up in global variables
>    magic_quotes_gpc = On                 ; needed to avoid various 
>bugs with untested code!
>    file_uploads= On
>
>To recap, my production environment is:
>
>    Redhat 9.0
>    Apache 2.0.46
>    PHP 4.3.1
>    Mysql 3.23.56
>    APC Action Apps 2.4.0 (also tried the cms version)
>
>The problems I was having in my production environment:
>
>1. Session instability. Screens don't always display current values
>2. Views don't work. All that's displayed is "No item found"
>3. Static views work but display "Odd Rows" content twice
>4. When updating fields I often get "Error in Priority (it must be filled)"
>5. Hold status not working
>
>Working with a slice that I created from the News (EN) Template. 
>One by one, here is what I was able to find out, if anything:
>
>1. Session instability. Screens don't always display current values
>
>Didn't seem to have this problem on the test system. Other than 
>irrelevant settings like "highlight.string" these are the main 
>differences between the two sets of php.ini files:
>
>y2k_compliance = Off : test server
>y2k_compliance = On : prod server
>
>output_buffering = Off : test server
>output_buffering = 4096 : prod server
>
>variables_order = "EGPCS" : test server
>variables_order = "GPCS" : prod server
>
>I would assume output_buffering would have some affect on this. I 
>changed all three of the above settings on the prod machine and that 
>seemed to help but didn't fix the problem completely. I even copied 
>over over the php.ini from the test system and used it but no 
>improvement over just changing the above settings. Deleting my 
>browser cache and refreshing gets me a correct screen with current 
>values. This is obviously a caching problem. I'm not a developer but 
>shouldn't there be some meta tags in the php code to control 
>caching? <meta http-equiv="expires" content="-1" /> and <meta 
>http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache" /> for example?


If you set nocache=1 in the URL, or the string to the View then it 
turns off caching, this can certainly help isolate problems, since if 
there is a problem the bad screen can get cached. There *were* 
problems with caching in the release version, but they should all be 
fixed in the CVS version.

output_buffering shouldn't make any difference see 
http://www.php.net/ref.outcontrol,

I'm pretty sure that variables_order thing just reads Environment 
variables, which won't be relevant.

I'm guessing there are some other differences between your two installations.

>2. Views don't work. All that's displayed is "No item found"
>
>I'm stumped on this one. They just don't work as documented, period. 
>In the webmaster's guide section of the APC ActionApps User Manual 
>talks about views but doesn't actually say how to display them in 
>your html. Of course when you create the view it does list the line 
>that you need to put in your html and it mentions it in the faq too. 
>I created a fulltext view which was view number 6 and put this in my 
>html:
>
><!--#include virtual="/view.php3?vid=6"-->
>
>On my page this is all I get: "No item found". So I tried to hard 
>code the slice id into the include statement:
>
><!--#include 
>virtual="/view.php3?vid=6&set[6]=slice_id-f2b2fdec6a216720c30616630d1a6f2d"-->
>
>Same result, "No item found". Am I missing something here? What's 
>the secret to this? Did the method of displaying views change and 
>not get updated in the doc? Somebody explain this to me please...  I 
>would love to use this type of statement on my front page to display 
>the latest two or three items from my news page in full text:
>
><!--#include virtual="/view.php3?vid=6&set[6]=to-3 "-->

This should work, you can test it by going straight to the view - 
e.g.  http://somewhere.com/view.php3
Although .... it looks strange that its /view.php3, this sounds like 
you've put the view at the TOP level of your web server, I've never 
seen that before, normally its one level down e.g. 
http://somwhere.com/apc-aa/view.php3,

Someone might take a look if you post a URL that can be tested by us 
... also try running with &debug=1 in the URL, that will test a 
number of things.

>
>3. Static views work but display "Odd Rows" content twice
>
>On the test system this feature works fine. On the prod server it 
>displays the content twice.  I can't come up with any theories for 
>this. It happens on the prod server even using the php.ini from the 
>test server. The only other difference are the versions of the other 
>software components. I have a left column that is the same for every 
>page. I would love to put this into a static view so it's in one 
>place and can be changed within Action Apps. As a workaround, I 
>suppose I can do the same thing by putting this in a file and doing 
>an include.  At the top of this left panel I have a menu. I would 
>love to be able to be able to change this dynamically, depending on 
>the page they were on as described here: 
>http://apc-aa.sourceforge.net/faq/#viewdynamic.  I haven't even 
>tried this though since I can't even display a simple view.

No idea what is happening here, you've got to track down the 
differnce in your two systems, again try running from the URL, and 
adding debug=1

>
>4. When updating fields I often get "Error in Priority (it must be filled)"
>
>I don't seem to get this on the test system but I do on the prod. 
>Needless to say, the priority fields are "filled" correctly. This 
>seems to have something to do with the "Edited by", "Posted by" and 
>"Last Edit" fields.  It seems to happen if I edit a field then 
>update that and then click update on the fields page. The above 
>three fields were not required or set to show in the News (EN) 
>Template. I had checked them to show but not be required in my 
>slice. When I get that error, I uncheck them, click update, recheck 
>them and click update again in order to be able to save the page 
>without that error. Same as problem number three - no theory. 
>Difference in version of components?

Something odd is going on here, are you doing this IN the 
news-en-template (bad), or did you create a slice from that template. 
(good).

>
>5. Hold status not working
>
>This one was easy. It's broke in the cvs version. No biggie, 
>development versions aren't expected to be bug free.
>
>Conclusions
>
>My production environment is a very common setup. The installation 
>doc states that AA was developed on Redhat 6.0 and 6.2. Those 
>versions are several years old. 1998 I think? It's not practical to 
>run a production server on versions that old. Versions older than 
>7.1 have reached "End of Life" and are no longer supported with 
>errata maintenance updates by Redhat.  Even version 8.0, the next to 
>the newest version, will reach End of Life at the end of this year, 
>December 31. I installed mysql from the Redhat 9.0 rpm's. The 
>version is 3.23.56. The installation doc says mysql needs to be 
>3.22.32 or newer so there doesn't appear to be any problem there. I 
>compiled and installed Apache and PHP manually using the latest 
>versions. In the software requirements from the installation doc for 
>AA, it states that AA was developed and tested with Apache. It 
>doesn't state a version requirement. I'm using 2.0.46 because I want 
>the 2.x features and of course, you should always use the current 
>version for security reasons. I'm using PHP version 4.3.1. The 
>installation doc says AA works with PHP 3.0.12 and newer up to 
>3.0.16 and PHP4 also works. Then there's a note: "TODO: say which 
>versions of PHP4 work fine, and which do not." I second that motion. 
>Is there a problem with PHP 4.3.1? If so I sure would like to know. 
>I suppose I could install an older version of PHP but what are the 
>ramifications? I'm most concerned about security since this box is 
>on the internet. PHP 3.0.18 is the only 3.x version available for 
>download on php.net and that version is three years old...

I think there might be version issues.   I'm running
Redhat  8.0
PHP 4.3.0
Apache 1.3.27
Mysql 3.23.56

I think the Apache version might be a problem, I had heard other 
problems with Apache 2, I don't know anyone running it.

>Action Apps does not appear to be very stable, at not least on my 
>system.  This surprises me because I think the application has been 
>around for a while. It's up to version 2.4 with another update soon 
>to be out. I've also seen a lot of good reviews on the net. And in 
>fact, I really like the features myself. That's why I'm going to go 
>ahead and try to use it despite the instability. For now I'll just 
>do plain vanilla slices and for anything fancier I'll do something 
>outside of AA. What about everybody else? Anybody else experiencing 
>problems? If not, what is your environment?
>
>The only aspect of my environment that looks like it could be a 
>problem is my version of PHP. I've spent a lot of time and done a 
>lot of work here...  I think that rates a response from the 
>developers. How about it?  Is there a problem with PHP 4.3.1? 
>Should I go all the way back to version 3.0.18? If not, what's your 
>best guess as to where I should look for the cause of problems 1-4 
>above?
>
>One last note... PHP 4.3.2 is out. There are a lot of bug fixes. I 
>don't really expect it to make a difference but I'm going to upgrade 
>and see.

There were problems with the major upgrade php 3 -> php4, but apart 
from that I haven't seen many PHP  version related problems.

- Mitra


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[Apc-aa-coders] Stability problem analysis - developer response requested

[Jeff H. <ja...@mi...>]

In my determination to get a stable installation of AA, I have spent a lot 
of time working with it this weekend. Having no success on my production 
server, I set up a Redhat 7.3 system on a spare machine and installed 
Apache, PHP and mysql from the rpm's. So the environment is:

    Redhat 7.3
    Apache 1.3.23
    PHP 4.1.2
    mysql 3.23.49
    APC Action Apps 2.4.0 (also tried the cms version)

I used the Redhat supplied php.ini which already had the AA required 
directives set (I did have to set file_uploads on):

    allow_call_time_pass_reference = On
    register_globals = On                 ; needed so that POST parameters 
end up in global variables
    magic_quotes_gpc = On                 ; needed to avoid various bugs 
with untested code!
    file_uploads= On

To recap, my production environment is:

    Redhat 9.0
    Apache 2.0.46
    PHP 4.3.1
    Mysql 3.23.56
    APC Action Apps 2.4.0 (also tried the cms version)

The problems I was having in my production environment:

1. Session instability. Screens don't always display current values
2. Views don't work. All that's displayed is "No item found"
3. Static views work but display "Odd Rows" content twice
4. When updating fields I often get "Error in Priority (it must be filled)"
5. Hold status not working

Working with a slice that I created from the News (EN) Template.  One by 
one, here is what I was able to find out, if anything:

1. Session instability. Screens don't always display current values

Didn't seem to have this problem on the test system. Other than irrelevant 
settings like "highlight.string" these are the main differences between the 
two sets of php.ini files:

y2k_compliance = Off : test server
y2k_compliance = On : prod server

output_buffering = Off : test server
output_buffering = 4096 : prod server

variables_order = "EGPCS" : test server
variables_order = "GPCS" : prod server

I would assume output_buffering would have some affect on this. I changed 
all three of the above settings on the prod machine and that seemed to help 
but didn't fix the problem completely. I even copied over over the php.ini 
from the test system and used it but no improvement over just changing the 
above settings. Deleting my browser cache and refreshing gets me a correct 
screen with current values. This is obviously a caching problem. I'm not a 
developer but shouldn't there be some meta tags in the php code to control 
caching? <meta http-equiv="expires" content="-1" /> and <meta 
http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache" /> for example?

2. Views don't work. All that's displayed is "No item found"

I'm stumped on this one. They just don't work as documented, period.  In 
the webmaster's guide section of the APC ActionApps User Manual talks about 
views but doesn't actually say how to display them in your html. Of course 
when you create the view it does list the line that you need to put in your 
html and it mentions it in the faq too. I created a fulltext view which was 
view number 6 and put this in my html:

<!--#include virtual="/view.php3?vid=6"-->

On my page this is all I get: "No item found". So I tried to hard code the 
slice id into the include statement:

<!--#include 
virtual="/view.php3?vid=6&set[6]=slice_id-f2b2fdec6a216720c30616630d1a6f2d"-->

Same result, "No item found". Am I missing something here? What's the 
secret to this? Did the method of displaying views change and not get 
updated in the doc? Somebody explain this to me please...  I would love to 
use this type of statement on my front page to display the latest two or 
three items from my news page in full text:

<!--#include virtual="/view.php3?vid=6&set[6]=to-3 "-->

3. Static views work but display "Odd Rows" content twice

On the test system this feature works fine. On the prod server it displays 
the content twice.  I can't come up with any theories for this. It happens 
on the prod server even using the php.ini from the test server. The only 
other difference are the versions of the other software components. I have 
a left column that is the same for every page. I would love to put this 
into a static view so it's in one place and can be changed within Action 
Apps. As a workaround, I suppose I can do the same thing by putting this in 
a file and doing an include.  At the top of this left panel I have a menu. 
I would love to be able to be able to change this dynamically, depending on 
the page they were on as described here: 
http://apc-aa.sourceforge.net/faq/#viewdynamic.  I haven't even tried this 
though since I can't even display a simple view.

4. When updating fields I often get "Error in Priority (it must be filled)"

I don't seem to get this on the test system but I do on the prod. Needless 
to say, the priority fields are "filled" correctly. This seems to have 
something to do with the "Edited by", "Posted by" and "Last Edit" 
fields.  It seems to happen if I edit a field then update that and then 
click update on the fields page. The above three fields were not required 
or set to show in the News (EN) Template. I had checked them to show but 
not be required in my slice. When I get that error, I uncheck them, click 
update, recheck them and click update again in order to be able to save the 
page without that error. Same as problem number three - no theory. 
Difference in version of components?

5. Hold status not working

This one was easy. It's broke in the cvs version. No biggie, development 
versions aren't expected to be bug free.

Conclusions

My production environment is a very common setup. The installation doc 
states that AA was developed on Redhat 6.0 and 6.2. Those versions are 
several years old. 1998 I think? It's not practical to run a production 
server on versions that old. Versions older than 7.1 have reached "End of 
Life" and are no longer supported with errata maintenance updates by 
Redhat.  Even version 8.0, the next to the newest version, will reach End 
of Life at the end of this year, December 31. I installed mysql from the 
Redhat 9.0 rpm's. The version is 3.23.56. The installation doc says mysql 
needs to be 3.22.32 or newer so there doesn't appear to be any problem 
there. I compiled and installed Apache and PHP manually using the latest 
versions. In the software requirements from the installation doc for AA, it 
states that AA was developed and tested with Apache. It doesn't state a 
version requirement. I'm using 2.0.46 because I want the 2.x features and 
of course, you should always use the current version for security reasons. 
I'm using PHP version 4.3.1. The installation doc says AA works with PHP 
3.0.12 and newer up to 3.0.16 and PHP4 also works. Then there's a note: 
"TODO: say which versions of PHP4 work fine, and which do not." I second 
that motion. Is there a problem with PHP 4.3.1? If so I sure would like to 
know.  I suppose I could install an older version of PHP but what are the 
ramifications? I'm most concerned about security since this box is on the 
internet. PHP 3.0.18 is the only 3.x version available for download on 
php.net and that version is three years old...

Action Apps does not appear to be very stable, at not least on my 
system.  This surprises me because I think the application has been around 
for a while. It's up to version 2.4 with another update soon to be out. 
I've also seen a lot of good reviews on the net. And in fact, I really like 
the features myself. That's why I'm going to go ahead and try to use it 
despite the instability. For now I'll just do plain vanilla slices and for 
anything fancier I'll do something outside of AA. What about everybody 
else? Anybody else experiencing problems? If not, what is your environment?

The only aspect of my environment that looks like it could be a problem is 
my version of PHP. I've spent a lot of time and done a lot of work 
here...  I think that rates a response from the developers. How about 
it?  Is there a problem with PHP 4.3.1?  Should I go all the way back to 
version 3.0.18? If not, what's your best guess as to where I should look 
for the cause of problems 1-4 above?

One last note... PHP 4.3.2 is out. There are a lot of bug fixes. I don't 
really expect it to make a difference but I'm going to upgrade and see.

-jah 

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<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<h3>How to integrate APC-AA with mail</h3>
<p>There are several places where APC-AA sends mail, and it can be confusing, 
  especially since it is really easy to configure them wrongly so they don't work, 
  and little help for figuring out why. Lets consider 4 cases. The Bugs and Weaknesses 
  of each method are shown because they may help pick which method to use, and 
  also help guide as to places for further development. </p>
<h4>Slice Admin or Editor wants notification of new items added to Hold bin, or 
  edited or whatever.</h4>
<p>Use the <a href="#notify">Email Notification</a> functionality, here you can 
  specify different messages to be sent when messages are added / edited to Active 
  / Hold bins, and different recipient lists, so for example you can create a 
  message to an Editor whenever a new message arrives in a Hold bin, and maybe 
  a different message to the sysadmin when an item is moved into the Active bin 
  (usually by the Editor). The message could be just something like &quot;An item 
  has been posted in Xyz slice&quot; or by using aliases can include any fields 
  of the item posted. </p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: You can't use aliases in Subject line, this might be fixed in 
  some version (but is unlikely to be a priority!)<br>
  Limitation: The members of the list can only be changed by a slice admin, so 
  don't use this for Alerts ... </p>
<h4>A number of people want to receive items posted to a slice</h4>
<p>Use a reader management slice (see <a href="../apc-aa/doc/reader.html">doc/reader.html</a>) 
  in conjunction with Alerts (<a href="../apc-aa/doc/alerts.html">doc/alerts.html</a>).</p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: its complex to setup, and frequently people don't succeed, if 
  you don't follow the Tutorial Step by Step (in <a href="../apc-aa/doc/alerts.html">doc/alerts.html</a>) 
  you probably won't get it to work.</p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: In particular it requires creating an anonymous form, which depends 
  very much on the way its being used (e.g. called from something.shtml or site.php3). 
  One possible development fix would be creating a PHP3 script that took the slice-id 
  of an Alerts module as a parameter and did this much more simply.</p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: documentation says 5.3a: View with type &quot;Alerts Digest&quot;, 
  when it means &quot;Alerts Selection Set&quot;. </p>
<h4>A number of people want to be in an email discussion, i.e. all posting to 
  each other. </h4>
<p>Use a Reader Management Slice (see <a href="../apc-aa/doc/reader.html">doc/reader.html</a>) 
  in conjunction with Mailman, APC-AA is used to manage the mailman list </p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: you can no longer manage the lists (subscribe/unsubscribe) by 
  email to the Mailman account once you've done this, mailman will almost certainly 
  be sending out email telling the users they can!</p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: You have to understand both apc-aa AND mailman to get this to 
  work since doc/reader.html refers to tasks that require knowing where to find 
  and how to configure mailman. </p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: There is no link between information in a slice, or discussions, 
  and the email discussion, i.e. this is not - like yahoo groups - a web OR mail 
  interface to the same set of data.</p>
<h4>People wish to receive copies of new comments in Discussions by Email </h4>
<p>See &quot;<a href="#1388">FAQ/Discussions as Mail List</a>&quot;, this allows 
  a field in each item to specify a mailing list.</p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: This field has to be added to every item, it can't be specified 
  at the slice level (make the field Required but not Shown and set a default). 
  This is particularly difficult if you want to retrofit discussions to an existing 
  slice, or something coming in over RSS. </p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: This can only go to a single email address, so you have to manage 
  the list somewhere else outside APC-AA (there is no way to for example link 
  it to Alerts).</p>
<p>Bug/Weakness: It doesn't appear to work, sends blank emails.</p>
<h4>Summary</h4>
<table width="95%" border="0">
  <tr> 
    <td height="16">&nbsp;</td>
    <td height="16">Template for Email</td>
    <td height="16">Who gets the email</td>
    <td height="16">How sent</td>
    <td height="16">Bugs, Limitation and further development</td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td>Notification</td>
    <td colspan="2">Admin -&gt; Slice -&gt; Email Notification</td>
    <td>Directly from script updating</td>
    <td>
      <p>Can't use aliases in Subject line<br>
        Can't self-manage recipients </p>
      </td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td>Alerts</td>
    <td>Admin -&gt; Slice -&gt; Views -&gt; Alerts View</td>
    <td>Readers from Reader slice, who can choose which to recieve</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>Complex to setup (anon forms) </td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td>Email Discussion</td>
    <td>Not applicable - its email to email</td>
    <td>Members managed by Reader Management slice</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>
      <p>Requires understanding mailman to setup<br>
        Cant subscribe/unsubscribe by email<br>
        No slice -&gt; email or email -&gt; slice</p>
      </td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>Discussion -&gt; Email</td>
    <td>Admin -&gt; Slice -&gt; Views -&gt; Discussion to Email</td>
    <td>One hard-coded email address</td>
    <td>&nbsp;</td>
    <td>Doesn't integrate with Alerts so no recipient management at all<br>
      Doesn't work.<br>
      Has to be added to each item in slice.</td>
  </tr>
</table>
<h4>Note: </h4>
<p>There is no integration for receiving email, although there has been discussion 
  (where?) about posting articles by mail</p>
<h4>See also</h4>
<ul>
  <li><a href="#wizard">User creation wizard</a> - notifying new Slice Admin of 
    wizard-created slice</li>
  <li><a href="#cron">Cron</a> - and entries needed for running Alerts</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</body>
</html>

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Re: Images loading from work.ecn.cz

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

if config.php3 is bad then lots of things will fail, and the user 
will fix config.php3 ...

I think if the user changes the path then again lots of places - 
anywhere relative URLs are used - will fail. But this is quite 
unlikely - we don't specify an image path it is ALWAYS assumed to be 
../images from config.php3.

I think you COULD change in existing templates - change it if, and 
only if, its still in its original state, that would be good, but not 
absolutely required.

- Mitra


At 10:51 AM +0200 4/6/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>I will try (or you can).
>
>I see two problems:
>
>1) The absolute path to work.ecn.cz is used in SQL queries in
>sql_update.php3 - it is written to database. sql_update is  used also if
>you create new database and config.php3 could be not so well configured.
>If I write relative paths from config to the database and user then
>changes the path, images will not show correctly.
>
>2) Templates on sql_update could not be updated (if user do not want -
>and I obviously do not want) so for current users it will not help.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>    Honza
>
>
>
>On St, 2003-06-04 at 10:12, Mitra wrote:
>>  Repeat ....
>>
>>  Can we get these loads from ecn.cz out for the release version?
>>
>>  - Mitra
>>
>>
>>  At 12:03 PM +1000 29/5/03, Mitra wrote:
>>  >Hi
>>  >
>>  >There are a few places in APC-AA where images are being loaded from
>>  >work.ecn.cz  for example the images used in the Discussions.
>>  >
>>  >Clearly that is wrong, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
>>  >
>>  >One source of problems in sql_update.php3 which explicitly names
>>  >work.ecn.cz/apc-aa/images for two view templates.  I'm not clear how
>>  >to put a relative, or configured, path in here.
>>  >
>>  >Also ... in the next release, we should make sure to fix this in
>>  >existing templates and views?
>>  >
>>  >work.ecn.cz also appears explicitly in createlogs.php3 , but its
>>  >within a path so something is obviously incorrect.
>>  >
>>  >- Mitra
>>  >
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Re: Images loading from work.ecn.cz

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

I will try (or you can).

I see two problems:

1) The absolute path to work.ecn.cz is used in SQL queries in
sql_update.php3 - it is written to database. sql_update is  used also if
you create new database and config.php3 could be not so well configured.
If I write relative paths from config to the database and user then
changes the path, images will not show correctly.

2) Templates on sql_update could not be updated (if user do not want -
and I obviously do not want) so for current users it will not help.

Any suggestions?

   Honza



On St, 2003-06-04 at 10:12, Mitra wrote:
> Repeat ....
> 
> Can we get these loads from ecn.cz out for the release version?
> 
> - Mitra
> 
> 
> At 12:03 PM +1000 29/5/03, Mitra wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >There are a few places in APC-AA where images are being loaded from 
> >work.ecn.cz  for example the images used in the Discussions.
> >
> >Clearly that is wrong, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
> >
> >One source of problems in sql_update.php3 which explicitly names 
> >work.ecn.cz/apc-aa/images for two view templates.  I'm not clear how 
> >to put a relative, or configured, path in here.
> >
> >Also ... in the next release, we should make sure to fix this in 
> >existing templates and views?
> >
> >work.ecn.cz also appears explicitly in createlogs.php3 , but its 
> >within a path so something is obviously incorrect.
> >
> >- Mitra
> >
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[Apc-aa-coders] Re: Images loading from work.ecn.cz

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Repeat ....

Can we get these loads from ecn.cz out for the release version?

- Mitra


At 12:03 PM +1000 29/5/03, Mitra wrote:
>Hi
>
>There are a few places in APC-AA where images are being loaded from 
>work.ecn.cz  for example the images used in the Discussions.
>
>Clearly that is wrong, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
>
>One source of problems in sql_update.php3 which explicitly names 
>work.ecn.cz/apc-aa/images for two view templates.  I'm not clear how 
>to put a relative, or configured, path in here.
>
>Also ... in the next release, we should make sure to fix this in 
>existing templates and views?
>
>work.ecn.cz also appears explicitly in createlogs.php3 , but its 
>within a path so something is obviously incorrect.
>
>- Mitra
>
>
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RE: [Apc-aa-coders] MS converter

[Marek T. <ma...@gn...>]

Hi Mitra,
MS converter in the misc directory is just an experimental php interface to free command line converters like vwHtml
http://www.wvware.com/, pdftohtml, xlhtml etc...
The idea is that you as an editor can upload a file, the converter converts it to html and pastes it to the fulltext window and sets
the html/plain swith to html.
We have been testing mainly vwHtml for a while, it has certain problems, but in general can be a great time saver for editors.
It needs further work to integrate it properly into AA, though I doubt we will ever include foreign tools that need to be compiled
(which is in this case tricky enough) to AA distribution.
I'll try to free some time to finish it off soon.

 Marek


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> To: apc...@so...
> Subject: [Apc-aa-coders] MS converter
>
>
> There is mention in the PHP wizzard of a MS Word converter in
> apc-aa/misc/msconvert
>
> Where do you get that, and is there any reason its not part of the
> distribution?
>
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[Apc-aa-coders] MS converter

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

There is mention in the PHP wizzard of a MS Word converter in 
apc-aa/misc/msconvert

Where do you get that, and is there any reason its not part of the 
distribution?

- mitra

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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Links Module - does it work yet?

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Yes - I can wait this long, I have other things to do on the site as well.

Thanks

- Mitra


At 11:50 AM +0200 2/6/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>Hi Mitra,
>
>    I thought I catch release AA 2.6 during weekend, but I didn't. Is it
>possible to you to wait for Friday, when AA 2.6 will be released
>including database setup, small Links exmple and basic view setting
>pages?
>
>    Honza
>
>On Po, 2003-06-02 at 02:31, Mitra wrote:
>>  Hi Honza ... are links working yet?
>>
>>  - Mitra
>>
>>
>>  At 5:48 PM +1000 28/5/03, Mitra wrote:
>>  >Honza
>>  >
>>  >I'd like to start using this, and would appreciate your help,
>>  >
>>  >please let me know what I need to do to the database - or is
>>  >sql_update.php3 working to do this yet?
>>  >
>>  >- Mitra
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >At 10:58 AM +0200 22/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>  >>  > Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>  >>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>  >>
>>  >>It quite works, but:
>>  >>
>>  >>1) there are no documentation in english
>>  >>2) The sql_update.php3 do not prepare database for links module
>>  >>3) There is not good admin interface for changing dataoutput (somethin=
g
>>  >>like Slice Admin -> Design -> ...)
>>  >>
>>  >>The problem 2 (and maybe 3) will be solved in AA v2.6. So, if you have
>>  >>time to play with links module and you plan to create big catalogue wi=
th
>>  >>many categories in deep hierarchy, you could use Links - I will help y=
ou
>>  >>to set up database. If you just want one page with links, it is better
>>  >>to use standard slice.
>>  >>
>>  >>    Honza
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>On =E2t, 2003-05-22 at 10:41, Mitra wrote:
>>  >>>  Honza
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>  >>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  - Mitra
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  Norbert said ...
>>  >>>  >What about to create different views for small(est) parts of the
>  > >>>  >output (e.g. up-level category link, subcategory link and its
>  > >>>  >selected subcategories, list of links in actual category)  and th=
en
>  > >>>  >combine them in similar way how it is done in site module? And wh=
y
>>  >>>  >not to extend site module for that purpose?
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >And some more questions:
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >Would it be possible to make relations between categories and othe=
r
>>  >>>  >modules (e.g. news articles, directory, ...)?
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >Would it be possible to search links in subcategories? (I mean not
>>  >>>  >whole catalogue, not actual category, but actual category and all =
of
>>  >>>  >its subcategories).
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >Would it be possible to reuse the code for links module and to add
>>  >>>  >similar functionality (editors for specific categories) to other
>>  >>>  >modules (e.g. news articles)?  Something like this might be really
>>  >>>  >great... (right now we want to delegate some sections/categories o=
f
>>  >>>  >our site to different authors - we do want to allow them access on=
ly
>>  >>>  >to their section, not to the whole site; but with possibility to
>>  >>>  >share articles among sections and on homepage. We plan to do it by
>>  >>>  >restricting list of site wide sections/categories they could see o=
n
>>  >>>  >their edit form, but looking for more flexible solution).
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  At 10:05 AM +1100 29/3/03, Mitra wrote:
>>  >>>  >For the output - I'm not sure your question, but I'm assuming its =
to
>>  >>>  >do with showing hierarchical cwould suggest something like
>>  >>>  >specifying a template for beginning and each level, so for example
>>  >>>  >you could specify
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  ><b>_#HEADLINE</b><ul>     and     </ul>       for the first level
>>  >>  > ><li>_#HEADLINE</li>    for the second .
>>  >>  > >
>>  >>  > >Does that make sense?
>>  >>  > >
>>  >>  > >Note that the {math...} function allows you to do stuff like
>>  >>  > >multiple columns, I use it to get a photo album with 3 columns.
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >- Mitra
>>  >>>  >
>  > >>>  >
>>  >>>  >At 1:56 PM +0100 28/3/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>  >>>  >>Link module is still not complete, but I will try to make 
>>it working in
>>  >>>  >>AA v2.6.
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>What works:
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>- admin interface for links (adding categories, links, ...) - the=
re
>>  >>>  >>   will be some improvements on this, but basicaly it works 
>>(we want to
>>  >>>  >>   move ekolink.cz to the AA link module next week)
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>What is still missing:
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>- SQL commands to initate the links module in the database in
>>  >>>  >>   sql_update.php3 script (not so hard to do - will be in v2.6)
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>- interface for modifying of output (something like 
>>SliceAdmin -> Design
>>  >>>  >>   - Fulltext, ...) - currently we display output from custom php
>>  >>>  >>   scripts.  (Hard to do - I have no idea, how to do it since we =
need
>>  >>>  >>   some kind of cycles in templates, ...)
>>  >>  > >>
>>  >>>  >>- documentation (quite hard to do, because links module is 
>>quite complex
>>  >>>  >>   - mainly in terms of permissions to the links/categories
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>    Honza
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>On P=E1, 2003-03-28 at 09:22, Mitra wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>  At 12:52 PM +0100 25/2/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>  >Hi Norbert,
>>  >>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >>>  >On So, 2003-02-22 at 01:09, Norbert Br=E1zda wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  Hi Honza,
>>  >>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  From: "Honza Malik" <hon...@ec...>
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  > I posted some changes to CVS. The list of changes
>>  >>>follows. Most of
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  > changes is related to new Links module, which is not
>>  >>>  >>>complete, yet. At
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  > least, user management functions should work, now.
>>  >>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  I am curious how the new links module differ from normal
>>  >>>  >>>modules (e.g. what
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  are the new functions that are not provided by standard
>>  >>>module (called
>>  >>>  >>>  >>  "news" due to historical reasons)).
>>  >>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >>>  >Links module is integration of our older - independent
>>  >>>links aplication
>>  >>>  >>>  >into AA. It uses another tables for storing links,
>>  >>>categories, ... but
>>  >>>  >>>  >it uses the same permission system and the interface. You
>>  >>>will be able
>>  >>>  >>  > >to manage pages like (http://ekolink.cz).
>>  >>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>  Is Links working yet
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>  When I login as superadmin on earth.path.net/apc-aa+/admin
>>  >>>  >>>(updated from CVS)
>>  >>>  >>  > And go to AA
>>  >>>  >>  > and Click on "Add" next to Links (there is nothing in 
>>the drop-down)
>>  >>>  >>  > then I get  "No permission to edit module"  from 
>>links/modedit.php3
>>  >>>  >>  >
>>  >>>  >>  > - Mitra
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>  --
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Links Module - does it work yet?

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Hi Mitra,

   I thought I catch release AA 2.6 during weekend, but I didn't. Is it
possible to you to wait for Friday, when AA 2.6 will be released
including database setup, small Links exmple and basic view setting
pages?

   Honza

On Po, 2003-06-02 at 02:31, Mitra wrote:
> Hi Honza ... are links working yet?
>=20
> - Mitra
>=20
>=20
> At 5:48 PM +1000 28/5/03, Mitra wrote:
> >Honza
> >
> >I'd like to start using this, and would appreciate your help,
> >
> >please let me know what I need to do to the database - or is=20
> >sql_update.php3 working to do this yet?
> >
> >- Mitra
> >
> >
> >At 10:58 AM +0200 22/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
> >>  > Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
> >>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
> >>
> >>It quite works, but:
> >>
> >>1) there are no documentation in english
> >>2) The sql_update.php3 do not prepare database for links module
> >>3) There is not good admin interface for changing dataoutput (something
> >>like Slice Admin -> Design -> ...)
> >>
> >>The problem 2 (and maybe 3) will be solved in AA v2.6. So, if you have
> >>time to play with links module and you plan to create big catalogue wit=
h
> >>many categories in deep hierarchy, you could use Links - I will help yo=
u
> >>to set up database. If you just want one page with links, it is better
> >>to use standard slice.
> >>
> >>    Honza
> >>
> >>
> >>On =E2t, 2003-05-22 at 10:41, Mitra wrote:
> >>>  Honza
> >>>
> >>>  Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
> >>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
> >>>
> >>>  - Mitra
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Norbert said ...
> >>>  >What about to create different views for small(est) parts of the
> >>>  >output (e.g. up-level category link, subcategory link and its
> >>>  >selected subcategories, list of links in actual category)  and then
> >>>  >combine them in similar way how it is done in site module? And why
> >>>  >not to extend site module for that purpose?
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  >And some more questions:
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Would it be possible to make relations between categories and other
> >>>  >modules (e.g. news articles, directory, ...)?
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Would it be possible to search links in subcategories? (I mean not
> >>>  >whole catalogue, not actual category, but actual category and all o=
f
> >>>  >its subcategories).
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Would it be possible to reuse the code for links module and to add
> >>>  >similar functionality (editors for specific categories) to other
> >>>  >modules (e.g. news articles)?  Something like this might be really
> >>>  >great... (right now we want to delegate some sections/categories of
> >>>  >our site to different authors - we do want to allow them access onl=
y
> >>>  >to their section, not to the whole site; but with possibility to
> >>>  >share articles among sections and on homepage. We plan to do it by
> >>>  >restricting list of site wide sections/categories they could see on
> >>>  >their edit form, but looking for more flexible solution).
> >>>
> >>>  >
> >>>  At 10:05 AM +1100 29/3/03, Mitra wrote:
> >>>  >For the output - I'm not sure your question, but I'm assuming its t=
o
> >>>  >do with showing hierarchical cwould suggest something like
> >>>  >specifying a template for beginning and each level, so for example
> >>>  >you could specify
> >>>  >
> >>>  ><b>_#HEADLINE</b><ul>     and     </ul>       for the first level
> >>  > ><li>_#HEADLINE</li>    for the second .
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Does that make sense?
> >>  > >
> >>  > >Note that the {math...} function allows you to do stuff like
> >>  > >multiple columns, I use it to get a photo album with 3 columns.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >- Mitra
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  >At 1:56 PM +0100 28/3/03, Honza Malik wrote:
> >>>  >>Link module is still not complete, but I will try to make it worki=
ng in
> >>>  >>AA v2.6.
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>What works:
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>- admin interface for links (adding categories, links, ...) - ther=
e
> >>>  >>   will be some improvements on this, but basicaly it works (we wa=
nt to
> >>>  >>   move ekolink.cz to the AA link module next week)
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>What is still missing:
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>- SQL commands to initate the links module in the database in
> >>>  >>   sql_update.php3 script (not so hard to do - will be in v2.6)
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>- interface for modifying of output (something like SliceAdmin -> =
Design
> >>>  >>   - Fulltext, ...) - currently we display output from custom php
> >>>  >>   scripts.  (Hard to do - I have no idea, how to do it since we n=
eed
> >>>  >>   some kind of cycles in templates, ...)
> >>  > >>
> >>>  >>- documentation (quite hard to do, because links module is quite c=
omplex
> >>>  >>   - mainly in terms of permissions to the links/categories
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>    Honza
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>On P=E1, 2003-03-28 at 09:22, Mitra wrote:
> >>>  >>>  At 12:52 PM +0100 25/2/03, Honza Malik wrote:
> >>>  >>>  >Hi Norbert,
> >>>  >>>  >
> >>>  >>>  >On So, 2003-02-22 at 01:09, Norbert Br=E1zda wrote:
> >>>  >>>  >>  Hi Honza,
> >>>  >>>  >>
> >>>  >>>  >>  From: "Honza Malik" <hon...@ec...>
> >>>  >>>  >>  > I posted some changes to CVS. The list of changes=20
> >>>follows. Most of
> >>>  >>>  >>  > changes is related to new Links module, which is not
> >>>  >>>complete, yet. At
> >>>  >>>  >>  > least, user management functions should work, now.
> >>>  >>>  >>
> >>>  >>>  >>  I am curious how the new links module differ from normal
> >>>  >>>modules (e.g. what
> >>>  >>>  >>  are the new functions that are not provided by standard=20
> >>>module (called
> >>>  >>>  >>  "news" due to historical reasons)).
> >>>  >>>  >
> >>>  >>>  >Links module is integration of our older - independent=20
> >>>links aplication
> >>>  >>>  >into AA. It uses another tables for storing links,=20
> >>>categories, ... but
> >>>  >>>  >it uses the same permission system and the interface. You=20
> >>>will be able
> >>>  >>  > >to manage pages like (http://ekolink.cz).
> >>>  >>>  >
> >>>  >>>
> >>>  >>>  Is Links working yet
> >>>  >>>
> >>>  >>>  When I login as superadmin on earth.path.net/apc-aa+/admin
> >>>  >>>(updated from CVS)
> >>>  >>  > And go to AA
> >>>  >>  > and Click on "Add" next to Links (there is nothing in the drop=
-down)
> >>>  >>  > then I get  "No permission to edit module"  from links/modedit=
.php3
> >>>  >>  >
> >>>  >>  > - Mitra
> >>>  >>>
> >>>  >>>  --
> >>>  >>>  Mitra Technology Consulting -  www.mitra.biz - mi...@mi...
> >>>  >>>  02-6684-8096  or 0414-648-0722
> >>>  >>>
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> >>>  >>>
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Links Module - does it work yet?

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Hi Honza ... are links working yet?

- Mitra


At 5:48 PM +1000 28/5/03, Mitra wrote:
>Honza
>
>I'd like to start using this, and would appreciate your help,
>
>please let me know what I need to do to the database - or is 
>sql_update.php3 working to do this yet?
>
>- Mitra
>
>
>At 10:58 AM +0200 22/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>  > Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>
>>It quite works, but:
>>
>>1) there are no documentation in english
>>2) The sql_update.php3 do not prepare database for links module
>>3) There is not good admin interface for changing dataoutput (something
>>like Slice Admin -> Design -> ...)
>>
>>The problem 2 (and maybe 3) will be solved in AA v2.6. So, if you have
>>time to play with links module and you plan to create big catalogue with
>>many categories in deep hierarchy, you could use Links - I will help you
>>to set up database. If you just want one page with links, it is better
>>to use standard slice.
>>
>>    Honza
>>
>>
>>On =E2t, 2003-05-22 at 10:41, Mitra wrote:
>>>  Honza
>>>
>>>  Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>>
>>>  - Mitra
>>>
>>>
>>>  Norbert said ...
>>>  >What about to create different views for small(est) parts of the
>>>  >output (e.g. up-level category link, subcategory link and its
>>>  >selected subcategories, list of links in actual category)  and then
>>>  >combine them in similar way how it is done in site module? And why
>>>  >not to extend site module for that purpose?
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >And some more questions:
>>>  >
>>>  >Would it be possible to make relations between categories and other
>>>  >modules (e.g. news articles, directory, ...)?
>>>  >
>>>  >Would it be possible to search links in subcategories? (I mean not
>>>  >whole catalogue, not actual category, but actual category and all of
>>>  >its subcategories).
>>>  >
>>>  >Would it be possible to reuse the code for links module and to add
>>>  >similar functionality (editors for specific categories) to other
>>>  >modules (e.g. news articles)?  Something like this might be really
>>>  >great... (right now we want to delegate some sections/categories of
>>>  >our site to different authors - we do want to allow them access only
>>>  >to their section, not to the whole site; but with possibility to
>>>  >share articles among sections and on homepage. We plan to do it by
>>>  >restricting list of site wide sections/categories they could see on
>>>  >their edit form, but looking for more flexible solution).
>>>
>>>  >
>>>  At 10:05 AM +1100 29/3/03, Mitra wrote:
>>>  >For the output - I'm not sure your question, but I'm assuming its to
>>>  >do with showing hierarchical cwould suggest something like
>>>  >specifying a template for beginning and each level, so for example
>>>  >you could specify
>>>  >
>>>  ><b>_#HEADLINE</b><ul>     and     </ul>       for the first level
>>  > ><li>_#HEADLINE</li>    for the second .
>>  > >
>>  > >Does that make sense?
>>  > >
>>  > >Note that the {math...} function allows you to do stuff like
>>  > >multiple columns, I use it to get a photo album with 3 columns.
>>>  >
>>>  >- Mitra
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >At 1:56 PM +0100 28/3/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>>  >>Link module is still not complete, but I will try to make it working =
in
>>>  >>AA v2.6.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>What works:
>>>  >>
>>>  >>- admin interface for links (adding categories, links, ...) - there
>>>  >>   will be some improvements on this, but basicaly it works (we want =
to
>>>  >>   move ekolink.cz to the AA link module next week)
>>>  >>
>>>  >>What is still missing:
>>>  >>
>>>  >>- SQL commands to initate the links module in the database in
>>>  >>   sql_update.php3 script (not so hard to do - will be in v2.6)
>>>  >>
>>>  >>- interface for modifying of output (something like SliceAdmin -> Des=
ign
>>>  >>   - Fulltext, ...) - currently we display output from custom php
>>>  >>   scripts.  (Hard to do - I have no idea, how to do it since we need
>>>  >>   some kind of cycles in templates, ...)
>>  > >>
>>>  >>- documentation (quite hard to do, because links module is quite comp=
lex
>>>  >>   - mainly in terms of permissions to the links/categories
>>>  >>
>>>  >>    Honza
>>>  >>
>>>  >>On P=E1, 2003-03-28 at 09:22, Mitra wrote:
>>>  >>>  At 12:52 PM +0100 25/2/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>>  >>>  >Hi Norbert,
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >On So, 2003-02-22 at 01:09, Norbert Br=E1zda wrote:
>>>  >>>  >>  Hi Honza,
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>  From: "Honza Malik" <hon...@ec...>
>>>  >>>  >>  > I posted some changes to CVS. The list of changes 
>>>follows. Most of
>>>  >>>  >>  > changes is related to new Links module, which is not
>>>  >>>complete, yet. At
>>>  >>>  >>  > least, user management functions should work, now.
>>>  >>>  >>
>>>  >>>  >>  I am curious how the new links module differ from normal
>>>  >>>modules (e.g. what
>>>  >>>  >>  are the new functions that are not provided by standard 
>>>module (called
>>>  >>>  >>  "news" due to historical reasons)).
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>  >Links module is integration of our older - independent 
>>>links aplication
>>>  >>>  >into AA. It uses another tables for storing links, 
>>>categories, ... but
>>>  >>>  >it uses the same permission system and the interface. You 
>>>will be able
>>>  >>  > >to manage pages like (http://ekolink.cz).
>>>  >>>  >
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  Is Links working yet
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>  When I login as superadmin on earth.path.net/apc-aa+/admin
>>>  >>>(updated from CVS)
>>>  >>  > And go to AA
>>>  >>  > and Click on "Add" next to Links (there is nothing in the drop-do=
wn)
>>>  >>  > then I get  "No permission to edit module"  from links/modedit.ph=
p3
>>>  >>  >
>>>  >>  > - Mitra
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[Apc-aa-coders] Docbook format instructions

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Hi

I want to make corrections to some APC-AA documentation which has 
been written in docbook format

This is a pain ..... first I have to figure out how to edit the XML - 
Jakub pointed to xmlmind.org, and I found this editor (its actually 
at) xmlmind.com

Now ... I have to figure out how to create the anonym.html file.

Please could someone who has worked with this format write the 
instructions for the FAQ.

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[Apc-aa-coders] Images loading from work.ecn.cz

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Hi

There are a few places in APC-AA where images are being loaded from 
work.ecn.cz  for example the images used in the Discussions.

Clearly that is wrong, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

One source of problems in sql_update.php3 which explicitly names 
work.ecn.cz/apc-aa/images for two view templates.  I'm not clear how 
to put a relative, or configured, path in here.

Also ... in the next release, we should make sure to fix this in 
existing templates and views?

work.ecn.cz also appears explicitly in createlogs.php3 , but its 
within a path so something is obviously incorrect.

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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Links Module - does it work yet?

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Honza

I'd like to start using this, and would appreciate your help,

please let me know what I need to do to the database - or is 
sql_update.php3 working to do this yet?

- Mitra


At 10:58 AM +0200 22/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>  > Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>
>It quite works, but:
>
>1) there are no documentation in english
>2) The sql_update.php3 do not prepare database for links module
>3) There is not good admin interface for changing dataoutput (something
>like Slice Admin -> Design -> ...)
>
>The problem 2 (and maybe 3) will be solved in AA v2.6. So, if you have
>time to play with links module and you plan to create big catalogue with
>many categories in deep hierarchy, you could use Links - I will help you
>to set up database. If you just want one page with links, it is better
>to use standard slice.
>
>    Honza
>
>
>On =E2t, 2003-05-22 at 10:41, Mitra wrote:
>>  Honza
>>
>>  Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and
>>  could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>>
>>  - Mitra
>>
>>
>>  Norbert said ...
>>  >What about to create different views for small(est) parts of the
>>  >output (e.g. up-level category link, subcategory link and its
>>  >selected subcategories, list of links in actual category)  and then
>>  >combine them in similar way how it is done in site module? And why
>>  >not to extend site module for that purpose?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >And some more questions:
>>  >
>>  >Would it be possible to make relations between categories and other
>>  >modules (e.g. news articles, directory, ...)?
>>  >
>>  >Would it be possible to search links in subcategories? (I mean not
>>  >whole catalogue, not actual category, but actual category and all of
>>  >its subcategories).
>>  >
>>  >Would it be possible to reuse the code for links module and to add
>>  >similar functionality (editors for specific categories) to other
>>  >modules (e.g. news articles)?  Something like this might be really
>>  >great... (right now we want to delegate some sections/categories of
>>  >our site to different authors - we do want to allow them access only
>>  >to their section, not to the whole site; but with possibility to
>>  >share articles among sections and on homepage. We plan to do it by
>>  >restricting list of site wide sections/categories they could see on
>>  >their edit form, but looking for more flexible solution).
>>
>>  >
>>  At 10:05 AM +1100 29/3/03, Mitra wrote:
>>  >For the output - I'm not sure your question, but I'm assuming its to
>>  >do with showing hierarchical cwould suggest something like
>>  >specifying a template for beginning and each level, so for example
>>  >you could specify
>>  >
>>  ><b>_#HEADLINE</b><ul>     and     </ul>       for the first level
>>  ><li>_#HEADLINE</li>    for the second .
>>  >
>>  >Does that make sense?
>>  >
>>  >Note that the {math...} function allows you to do stuff like
>>  >multiple columns, I use it to get a photo album with 3 columns.
>>  >
>>  >- Mitra
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >At 1:56 PM +0100 28/3/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>  >>Link module is still not complete, but I will try to make it working i=
n
>>  >>AA v2.6.
>>  >>
>>  >>What works:
>>  >>
>>  >>- admin interface for links (adding categories, links, ...) - there
>>  >>   will be some improvements on this, but basicaly it works (we want t=
o
>>  >>   move ekolink.cz to the AA link module next week)
>>  >>
>>  >>What is still missing:
>>  >>
>>  >>- SQL commands to initate the links module in the database in
>>  >>   sql_update.php3 script (not so hard to do - will be in v2.6)
>>  >>
>>  >>- interface for modifying of output (something like SliceAdmin -> Desi=
gn
>>  >>   - Fulltext, ...) - currently we display output from custom php
>>  >>   scripts.  (Hard to do - I have no idea, how to do it since we need
>>  >>   some kind of cycles in templates, ...)
>>  >>
>>  >>- documentation (quite hard to do, because links module is quite compl=
ex
>  > >>   - mainly in terms of permissions to the links/categories
>>  >>
>>  >>    Honza
>>  >>
>>  >>On P=E1, 2003-03-28 at 09:22, Mitra wrote:
>>  >>>  At 12:52 PM +0100 25/2/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>>  >>>  >Hi Norbert,
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >On So, 2003-02-22 at 01:09, Norbert Br=E1zda wrote:
>>  >>>  >>  Hi Honza,
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>  From: "Honza Malik" <hon...@ec...>
>>  >>>  >>  > I posted some changes to CVS. The list of changes 
>>follows. Most of
>>  >>>  >>  > changes is related to new Links module, which is not
>>  >>>complete, yet. At
>>  >>>  >>  > least, user management functions should work, now.
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>  I am curious how the new links module differ from normal
>>  >>>modules (e.g. what
>>  >>>  >>  are the new functions that are not provided by standard 
>>module (called
>>  >>>  >>  "news" due to historical reasons)).
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >Links module is integration of our older - independent links 
>>aplication
>>  >>>  >into AA. It uses another tables for storing links, categories, ...=
 but
>>  >>>  >it uses the same permission system and the interface. You will be =
able
>>  >>  > >to manage pages like (http://ekolink.cz).
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  Is Links working yet
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  When I login as superadmin on earth.path.net/apc-aa+/admin
>>  >>>(updated from CVS)
>>  >>  > And go to AA
>>  >>  > and Click on "Add" next to Links (there is nothing in the drop-dow=
n)
>>  >>  > then I get  "No permission to edit module"  from links/modedit.php=
3
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > - Mitra
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[Apc-aa-coders] More on discussions

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

I'm just implementing discussions for the first time, here are some 
of the problems I'm seeing.

Note ... if I say "there is no way" and there is, then its probably a 
documentation failure.

* To force discussion comments to be held for approval before display 
you have to edit the form to put <input type=hidden name=d_state 
value=1>  this is both clunky, and easy to hack.

The way that  discussions get sent to mail seems even stranger to me ...

* There is no way to specify an email address for sending comments 
for approval.

* It seems strange to define who gets mailed FOR EACH ITEM, in almost 
all cases wouldn't this be something wanted at the slice level?

* Even if we want to do this ... having to define a field by hand for 
the slice, "DiscussionMailList" shouldn't it at least be in the Core 
slice, so that its easy to add the field and get it right and 
shouldn't the test be by  the field id, rather than the name - which 
forces using english name

Even having done all this .... it doesn't seem to work, mail gets 
sent but its empty, has anyone made this work or is this not complete 
yet?

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[Apc-aa-coders] Hidden comments

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Honza..

I've edited the FAQ to show how to have discussions be initially 
hidden ... I believe the trick is to add

<input type=hidden name=d_state value=1>

into the FORM for new comments. This doesn't seem to be the best way 
to do this - maybe a parameter at the slice level would be better - 
but it seems to be the only way.

- Mitra


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[Apc-aa-coders] f_y

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

At 11:02 PM +0200 26/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>
>Another question is about your new f_y alias function, which is nearly
>the same as f_t. Is it possible for you to use f_t so I can remove f_y?


Hmm ... I don't think these are that similar ...

if there is a param ....
f_t looks to see if param is a field, and if so gets the value, and
     if it doesn't look like a field, then it unaliases the param
    If there is no param, then it converts the field to HTML (if text)

f_y   if the param is there then it unaliases the param
     if the param is not there then it unaliases the field.


Comparing these two ...
If there is a param, then the behavior is the same - even though the 
code is different - I hadn't spotted this behavior of f_t.

But if there is no param, then there is a crucial difference, it 
allows for the Slice Administrator to specify that a certain field IN 
THE DATA can contain expandable {xxxx} strings.   Normally { } are 
NOT expanded when they occur in the DATA, because otherwise they 
would be expanded where they are really text, but this makes some 
things really hard to do - for example where I have a site that 
displays a set of pages (each of which is an item) and one of these 
pages needs to call a view.

Also .... it can't be removed in this release because I'm using it in 
live sites, and can't remember exactly where :-(

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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Where is 'Anonymous form wizard'

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

At 11:02 PM +0200 26/5/03, Honza Malik wrote:
>Hi Mitra,
>
>    Jason discovers you hide two items in 'Slice Admin' left menu:
>
>/*
>   "anonym_wizard" => array ("label"=>_m("Anonymous Form
>              Wizard"),
>              "cond"=>IfSlPerm(PS_FIELDS),                   
>              "href"=>"admin/anonym_wizard.php3"),
>   "email"=>array ("cond"=>IfSlPerm(PS_USERS),
>              "href" => "admin/tabledit.php3?set_tview=email",
>              "label"=>_m("Email templates")),
>*/
>
>Is there any reason why the "Anonymous Form Wizard" should be hidden?

Thats not me who commented these out, I haven't worked on the anonym 
wizard, and don't know waht the "Email Templates" item does. It 
sounds like Jakub, he was working on mail/alerts and stuff like that.

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[Apc-aa-coders] Where is 'Anonymous form wizard'

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Hi Mitra,

   Jason discovers you hide two items in 'Slice Admin' left menu:

/*
  "anonym_wizard" => array ("label"=>_m("Anonymous Form
             Wizard"),
             "cond"=>IfSlPerm(PS_FIELDS),                    
             "href"=>"admin/anonym_wizard.php3"),
  "email"=>array ("cond"=>IfSlPerm(PS_USERS),
             "href" => "admin/tabledit.php3?set_tview=email",
             "label"=>_m("Email templates")),
*/

Is there any reason why the "Anonymous Form Wizard" should be hidden?

Another question is about your new f_y alias function, which is nearly
the same as f_t. Is it possible for you to use f_t so I can remove f_y?

   Honza

[Apc-aa-coders] Adding fileman to sites

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

Honza

I've added a couple of expansion strings

{include:xxx}   or {include:xxx:http}   work just like   {include(xxx)}

but

{include:xxx:fileman}   will look in the current slice's fileman 
directory for xxx

and

{include:xxx:site} will look in a directory whose name is defined in 
a variable site_fileman_dir (typically in 
modules/site/sites/site_yyy.php3)

So .... it would be nice to be able to move allow file management 
capabilities from within a site module. Would that be possible / easy 
- I would suggest it would involve adding "fileman_dir" to the module 
parameters and  "File Manager" to its menu.

I haven't made this change because it involves a database change 
close to a new release, and i'm not totally sure of all the places to 
do it correctly, or if its a good idea.

What do you think?  its not a big deal for me, for now I've just got 
a spare slice where I'm doing stuff like that.

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[Apc-aa-coders] Redefining get_aamenus

[Mitra <mi...@ea...>]

I saw that bug again where it complains about redefining get_aamenus()

It occurred when I switched from a regular slice, to a "site"  and 
was on the current CVS.

I'm not sure what caused it exactly since I wasnt' able to repeat it 
and debug it. But .... it suggests something weird is going on.

Is there some reason we have to redefine that function?

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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Links Module - does it work yet?

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

> Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and=20
> could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.

It quite works, but:

1) there are no documentation in english
2) The sql_update.php3 do not prepare database for links module
3) There is not good admin interface for changing dataoutput (something
like Slice Admin -> Design -> ...)

The problem 2 (and maybe 3) will be solved in AA v2.6. So, if you have
time to play with links module and you plan to create big catalogue with
many categories in deep hierarchy, you could use Links - I will help you
to set up database. If you just want one page with links, it is better
to use standard slice.

   Honza


On =C8t, 2003-05-22 at 10:41, Mitra wrote:
> Honza
>=20
> Is the Links module ready yet - I need to build a links page, and=20
> could use / test / fix-bugs in it, or just use a slice again.
>=20
> - Mitra
>=20
>=20
> Norbert said ...
> >What about to create different views for small(est) parts of the=20
> >output (e.g. up-level category link, subcategory link and its=20
> >selected subcategories, list of links in actual category)  and then=20
> >combine them in similar way how it is done in site module? And why=20
> >not to extend site module for that purpose?
> >
> >
> >And some more questions:
> >
> >Would it be possible to make relations between categories and other=20
> >modules (e.g. news articles, directory, ...)?
> >
> >Would it be possible to search links in subcategories? (I mean not=20
> >whole catalogue, not actual category, but actual category and all of=20
> >its subcategories).
> >
> >Would it be possible to reuse the code for links module and to add=20
> >similar functionality (editors for specific categories) to other=20
> >modules (e.g. news articles)?  Something like this might be really=20
> >great... (right now we want to delegate some sections/categories of=20
> >our site to different authors - we do want to allow them access only=20
> >to their section, not to the whole site; but with possibility to=20
> >share articles among sections and on homepage. We plan to do it by=20
> >restricting list of site wide sections/categories they could see on=20
> >their edit form, but looking for more flexible solution).
>=20
> >
> At 10:05 AM +1100 29/3/03, Mitra wrote:
> >For the output - I'm not sure your question, but I'm assuming its to=20
> >do with showing hierarchical cwould suggest something like=20
> >specifying a template for beginning and each level, so for example=20
> >you could specify
> >
> ><b>_#HEADLINE</b><ul>     and     </ul>       for the first level
> ><li>_#HEADLINE</li>    for the second .
> >
> >Does that make sense?
> >
> >Note that the {math...} function allows you to do stuff like=20
> >multiple columns, I use it to get a photo album with 3 columns.
> >
> >- Mitra
> >
> >
> >At 1:56 PM +0100 28/3/03, Honza Malik wrote:
> >>Link module is still not complete, but I will try to make it working in
> >>AA v2.6.
> >>
> >>What works:
> >>
> >>- admin interface for links (adding categories, links, ...) - there
> >>   will be some improvements on this, but basicaly it works (we want to
> >>   move ekolink.cz to the AA link module next week)
> >>
> >>What is still missing:
> >>
> >>- SQL commands to initate the links module in the database in
> >>   sql_update.php3 script (not so hard to do - will be in v2.6)
> >>
> >>- interface for modifying of output (something like SliceAdmin -> Desig=
n
> >>   - Fulltext, ...) - currently we display output from custom php
> >>   scripts.  (Hard to do - I have no idea, how to do it since we need
> >>   some kind of cycles in templates, ...)
> >>
> >>- documentation (quite hard to do, because links module is quite comple=
x
> >>   - mainly in terms of permissions to the links/categories
> >>
> >>    Honza
> >>
> >>On P=E1, 2003-03-28 at 09:22, Mitra wrote:
> >>>  At 12:52 PM +0100 25/2/03, Honza Malik wrote:
> >>>  >Hi Norbert,
> >>>  >
> >>>  >On So, 2003-02-22 at 01:09, Norbert Br=E1zda wrote:
> >>>  >>  Hi Honza,
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>  From: "Honza Malik" <hon...@ec...>
> >>>  >>  > I posted some changes to CVS. The list of changes follows. Mos=
t of
> >>>  >>  > changes is related to new Links module, which is not=20
> >>>complete, yet. At
> >>>  >>  > least, user management functions should work, now.
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>  I am curious how the new links module differ from normal=20
> >>>modules (e.g. what
> >>>  >>  are the new functions that are not provided by standard module (=
called
> >>>  >>  "news" due to historical reasons)).
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Links module is integration of our older - independent links aplica=
tion
> >>>  >into AA. It uses another tables for storing links, categories, ... =
but
> >>>  >it uses the same permission system and the interface. You will be a=
ble
> >>  > >to manage pages like (http://ekolink.cz).
> >>>  >
> >>>
> >>>  Is Links working yet
> >>>
> >>>  When I login as superadmin on earth.path.net/apc-aa+/admin=20
> >>>(updated from CVS)
> >>  > And go to AA
> >>  > and Click on "Add" next to Links (there is nothing in the drop-down=
)
> >>  > then I get  "No permission to edit module"  from links/modedit.php3
> >>  >
> >>  > - Mitra
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